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03/19/2007 11:16:21 PM · #1 |
Originally posted by jackal9:
Originally posted by levyj413:
Hey, cool. Now I have another site where I can suck. :) |
I hear that!! Now I can suck on multiple levels!!! COOL!!! Actually I can barely keep up with submitting on DPC, let alone Two sites!!! I guess I'll just hang here...
Jack |
Oh, just wait. I guess you haven't found dailyawards.com or betterphoto.com. Or votobooth or fotofight. :)
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03/19/2007 11:11:55 PM · #2 |
Originally posted by levyj413:
Hey, cool. Now I have another site where I can suck. :) |
I hear that!! Now I can suck on multiple levels!!! COOL!!! Actually I can barely keep up with submitting on DPC, let alone Two sites!!! I guess I'll just hang here...
Jack |
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03/17/2007 03:48:48 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by strangeghost:
Back to the original thread topic:
Originally posted by ParadigmShift:
I have a significant part in the birth of EyeFetch and am a constant advisor to the site owners.
... and I surely intend to stay part of this community as well as of EyeFetch (if allowed).
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And note that this is the last thread he ever posted to... |
How is this back on topic? The topic isn't about his activity at DPC but of the two sites being similar.
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03/17/2007 12:24:51 PM · #4 |
Back to the original thread topic:
Originally posted by ParadigmShift:
I have a significant part in the birth of EyeFetch and am a constant advisor to the site owners.
... and I surely intend to stay part of this community as well as of EyeFetch (if allowed).
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And note that this is the last thread he ever posted to... |
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03/17/2007 11:50:32 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Originally posted by Artyste:
However, if I wrote a book about a young boy named Tim Saver.. set in the Northwest, that had adventures similar to young Tom, but different.. and titled it something else.. Tim Saver and the Magic Cave.. or something... well, I took an idea and made it my own. |
WTF?? I wrote that three years ago. You totally stole my idea!
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Dude, you wrote this three years ago? Are you sure you didn't steal the idea from one of our variety of 7-11 convenience marts in South Georgia, called Time Savers? They've been in business alot longer than that! :}
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03/17/2007 05:31:29 AM · #6 |
I notice the Infamous RIKKI is posting there at the moment might be worth keeping that in mind
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03/17/2007 04:26:14 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
I'm a member there myself |
a double-agent, eh?
Well I think there should be some sort of showdown, shootout, gangfight, rumble, or something. If for no other reason but to add more drama and excitement to this place. Let's be careful what weapons we bring - we know they'll be copying us. For those of you with dual memberships, you'll be expected to beat yourselves up. |
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03/17/2007 02:54:38 AM · #8 |
Regarding "dual citizenship", there are a LOT of DPCers over there that I recognize, and probably more that I don't. I'm a member there myself, though I rarely participate anymore. For me DPC like a well-worn slipper, it's comfortable. I'm referring to the social arena in particular. I can navigate more easily here, and so forth. Still, I've got 6 hall-of-fame images there, 290-some "awards", whatever. It's not a lot by their standards.
Here's two other big-time DPC ribbon winners that are pretty successful there: Goodman and Joey Lawrence. Those names pop right to mind.
What's my point? It's a good site run by good people with an active membership that has evolved into something very different from DPC, after having started out very similar. Paradigm has put a lot of work into it, and he's doing a good job.
To whatever extent "we" get involved in bashing "them" we look like truculent fools, if you want my opinion. This whole "Rikki is copying!" thing got way out of hand, as far as I'm concerned. I kinda wish everyone would just let everyone else the heck alone and let them go on about their business.
R.
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03/17/2007 02:09:42 AM · #9 |
Hey, cool. Now I have another site where I can suck. :)
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03/17/2007 12:58:02 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by Artyste:
I have no words... |
Ironically that is the title of Chapter 3. |
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03/17/2007 12:55:02 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Originally posted by Artyste:
However, if I wrote a book about a young boy named Tim Saver.. set in the Northwest, that had adventures similar to young Tom, but different.. and titled it something else.. Tim Saver and the Magic Cave.. or something... well, I took an idea and made it my own. |
WTF?? I wrote that three years ago. You totally stole my idea!
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I have no words... |
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03/17/2007 12:52:29 AM · #12 |
LOL!! |
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03/17/2007 12:51:00 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by Artyste:
However, if I wrote a book about a young boy named Tim Saver.. set in the Northwest, that had adventures similar to young Tom, but different.. and titled it something else.. Tim Saver and the Magic Cave.. or something... well, I took an idea and made it my own. |
WTF?? I wrote that three years ago. You totally stole my idea!
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03/17/2007 12:34:36 AM · #14 |
The original topic of this thread was about a site that was similar to DPC. Somehow we've veered a bit off-topic and are talking about a specific user of that site.
While wandering discussion isn't necessarily bad, we've received numerous reports of "vigilante justice" -- both public and personal harassment of a particular person.
Just a reminder: cyberstalking is not cool.
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03/17/2007 12:06:27 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by Artyste:
As I said. You make your choice. |
You're right. Life is full of choices. Just sad that people "choose" to pick on JUST the defenseless.
Message edited by author 2007-03-17 00:06:52.
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03/17/2007 12:02:16 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by Artyste:
The point that keeps getting lost.. either through sarcasm, or anger, or blindness... or whatever keeps obfuscating it, is this:
There are 3 photos by a person that are not only copies.. which people do.. but they are almost, pixel by pixel, complete photocopies (mind the pun.) Including composition, lighting, models, and .. most importantly.. titles.
No effort was made to change much of anything at all. Is this *stealing*? No.. not by any true definition. Enough leeway was made to keep it out of the realm of true theft.
However, these photos, when compared with the originals, and given the fact that exact titles were also used, leaves a little bit of a foul taste in my mouth.
However, this is something the photographer has decided they can live with, and, as many others have pointed out, that they can live with defending. That's their choice. Personally, I think it's shameful.
Hypothetical: I write a book. Let's say it's about a boy named Tom.. Sawyer. Set in the 1800s. Does some things like getting out of chores, sneaking into caves, being a general pain in the ass.. has adventures. I shall title this book... The Adventures of Tom Sawyer. A book very much .. indeed almost identical.. to a book written by one Mark Twain. Only maybe my Tom is a year older than Twain's Tom. That makes it different. Now I set out to publish this book, and.. what's this? I can't? But it's different.. *I* wrote it. It's *my* effort. I even changed the age of the main character!
You think any publisher is going to touch that with a ten foot pole?
However, if I wrote a book about a young boy named Tim Saver.. set in the Northwest, that had adventures similar to young Tom, but different.. and titled it something else.. Tim Saver and the Magic Cave.. or something... well, I took an idea and made it my own.
See the difference?
Probably not.
In the end, you have to decide for yourself what you can live with defending. |
You've got to be kidding me. He didn't sell any of the photos in question so your book example makes zero sense. Fact is MANY here are just as guilty of the exact same thing that Rikki did. You can look no further than this thread that shows one of many examples of that happening here at DPC. Funny when I asked why there wasn't outrage over that other DPCer doing the same not one person said a word. Perhaps because the REAL issue here has nothing to do with copying ideas and everything to do about harassing Rikki. Seems to me Rikki is getting the last laugh in all of this. When he got banned it was like a spotlight cast upon the rest of us and what is showing ain't pretty.
Edited for clarity. |
As I said. You make your choice.
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03/16/2007 11:56:03 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by Artyste:
The point that keeps getting lost.. either through sarcasm, or anger, or blindness... or whatever keeps obfuscating it, is this:
There are 3 photos by a person that are not only copies.. which people do.. but they are almost, pixel by pixel, complete photocopies (mind the pun.) Including composition, lighting, models, and .. most importantly.. titles.
No effort was made to change much of anything at all. Is this *stealing*? No.. not by any true definition. Enough leeway was made to keep it out of the realm of true theft.
However, these photos, when compared with the originals, and given the fact that exact titles were also used, leaves a little bit of a foul taste in my mouth.
However, this is something the photographer has decided they can live with, and, as many others have pointed out, that they can live with defending. That's their choice. Personally, I think it's shameful.
Hypothetical: I write a book. Let's say it's about a boy named Tom.. Sawyer. Set in the 1800s. Does some things like getting out of chores, sneaking into caves, being a general pain in the ass.. has adventures. I shall title this book... The Adventures of Tom Sawyer. A book very much .. indeed almost identical.. to a book written by one Mark Twain. Only maybe my Tom is a year older than Twain's Tom. That makes it different. Now I set out to publish this book, and.. what's this? I can't? But it's different.. *I* wrote it. It's *my* effort. I even changed the age of the main character!
You think any publisher is going to touch that with a ten foot pole?
However, if I wrote a book about a young boy named Tim Saver.. set in the Northwest, that had adventures similar to young Tom, but different.. and titled it something else.. Tim Saver and the Magic Cave.. or something... well, I took an idea and made it my own.
See the difference?
Probably not.
In the end, you have to decide for yourself what you can live with defending. |
You've got to be kidding me. He didn't sell any of the photos in question so your book example makes zero sense. Fact is MANY here are just as guilty of the exact same thing that Rikki did. You can look no further than this thread that shows one of many examples of that happening here at DPC. Funny when I asked why there wasn't outrage over that other DPCer doing the same not one person said a word. Perhaps because the REAL issue here has nothing to do with copying ideas and everything to do about harassing Rikki. Seems to me Rikki is getting the last laugh in all of this. When he got banned it was like a spotlight cast upon the rest of us and what is showing ain't pretty.
Edited for clarity.
Message edited by author 2007-03-16 23:58:36.
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03/16/2007 09:36:05 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by Brad:
I just found a poser on this page:
Top Award Winners - I mean look at the audacity of the guy in 5th place there!
Then there's always Fotofight too.
Not to be confused with any of the too family. :D |
Ouch, and look who is the top 'shiny things' winner..... none other than gibun. Yip, I am playing both, what a silly old man I am.;-)//www.eyefetch.com/members.aspx?sort=medals
Message edited by author 2007-03-16 21:36:27. |
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03/16/2007 07:42:43 PM · #19 |
The point that keeps getting lost.. either through sarcasm, or anger, or blindness... or whatever keeps obfuscating it, is this:
There are 3 photos by a person that are not only copies.. which people do.. but they are almost, pixel by pixel, complete photocopies (mind the pun.) Including composition, lighting, models, and .. most importantly.. titles.
No effort was made to change much of anything at all. Is this *stealing*? No.. not by any true definition. Enough leeway was made to keep it out of the realm of true theft.
However, these photos, when compared with the originals, and given the fact that exact titles were also used, leaves a little bit of a foul taste in my mouth.
However, this is something the photographer has decided they can live with, and, as many others have pointed out, that they can live with defending. That's their choice. Personally, I think it's shameful.
Hypothetical: I write a book. Let's say it's about a boy named Tom.. Sawyer. Set in the 1800s. Does some things like getting out of chores, sneaking into caves, being a general pain in the ass.. has adventures. I shall title this book... The Adventures of Tom Sawyer. A book very much .. indeed almost identical.. to a book written by one Mark Twain. Only maybe my Tom is a year older than Twain's Tom. That makes it different. Now I set out to publish this book, and.. what's this? I can't? But it's different.. *I* wrote it. It's *my* effort. I even changed the age of the main character!
You think any publisher is going to touch that with a ten foot pole?
However, if I wrote a book about a young boy named Tim Saver.. set in the Northwest, that had adventures similar to young Tom, but different.. and titled it something else.. Tim Saver and the Magic Cave.. or something... well, I took an idea and made it my own.
See the difference?
Probably not.
In the end, you have to decide for yourself what you can live with defending. |
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03/16/2007 06:16:12 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by 777STAN:
Truth is this is society as we have created it...at least in the U.S. Someone has a really good idea, others watch for hints of success, success confirmed, and it's "Send in the clones!"
Ever heard of Wal-Mart? Mr. Sam had a good idea, then came Mr. K. with K-Mart, and Target, Goody's, Dollar General, ad infinitum.
How about McDonald's? Then came Burger King, Hardee's Wendy's, Arby's...
Bottom Line: We are a world full of lemmings who demand that everyone follow the Lemming Religion. Any non-conformists, like me, are hunted down by the Lemming PC Police and "brow-beaten" until we learn the wisdom of...conforming. Marx & Lenin would be proud of how their ideas became a world-wide standard "without firing a shot."
The ancient wise man, King Solomon, put it best, "There is nothing new under the sun!"
If DPC is truly the best website of its kind (I personally believe that it is,) then it will always come out on top! Men don't worry about competition, They pray for it to come! |
I think that is why you are using a Pentax K10D. |
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03/16/2007 06:13:20 PM · #21 |
Truth is this is society as we have created it...at least in the U.S. Someone has a really good idea, others watch for hints of success, success confirmed, and it's "Send in the clones!"
Ever heard of Wal-Mart? Mr. Sam had a good idea, then came Mr. K. with K-Mart, and Target, Goody's, Dollar General, ad infinitum.
How about McDonald's? Then came Burger King, Hardee's Wendy's, Arby's...
Bottom Line: We are a world full of lemmings who demand that everyone follow the Lemming Religion. Any non-conformists, like me, are hunted down by the Lemming PC Police and "brow-beaten" until we learn the wisdom of...conforming. Marx & Lenin would be proud of how their ideas became a world-wide standard "without firing a shot."
The ancient wise man, King Solomon, put it best, "There is nothing new under the sun!"
If DPC is truly the best website of its kind (I personally believe that it is,) then it will always come out on top! Men don't worry about competition, They pray for it to come!
Message edited by author 2007-03-16 18:15:37.
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03/16/2007 02:31:27 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by keans_d:
They do keep a good track of the possible trolls.
Member Browser (NEW)
Top Award Winners
Top Forum Posters
Top Image Commenters (NEW)
Top Contest Medal Winners (NEW)
Top 100 Extreme Raters
Top 100 Extreme Low Raters
Top 100 Extreme High Raters |
Thats cool, I like that. |
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03/16/2007 02:19:31 PM · #23 |
They do keep a good track of the possible trolls.
Member Browser (NEW)
Top Award Winners
Top Forum Posters
Top Image Commenters (NEW)
Top Contest Medal Winners (NEW)
Top 100 Extreme Raters
Top 100 Extreme Low Raters
Top 100 Extreme High Raters
Message edited by author 2007-03-16 14:19:44. |
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03/16/2007 01:54:33 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by Brad:
I just found a poser on this page:
Top Award Winners - I mean look at the audacity of the guy in 5th place there!
Then there's always Fotofight too.
Not to be confused with any of the too family. :D |
yea but Goodman is beating you:) |
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03/16/2007 08:47:55 AM · #25 |
Originally posted by Brad:
I just found a poser on this page:
Top Award Winners - I mean look at the audacity of the guy in 5th place there!
Then there's always Fotofight too.
Not to be confused with any of the too family. :D |
AHHHHAHHAHHAA!! I am gonna join just so I can beat yer butt :P ROFL!!! |
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