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07/03/2005 09:05:41 PM · #1
I think that's an awesome shot. I would have given it a 9, had I voted. It's really excellent. I think some people may have felt it to be lacking some 'technical appeal.' Because it just looks so simple...when, in actuality, it was probably a very difficult concept to think of. Good work.
07/03/2005 09:01:25 PM · #2
I was one of the 85 who scored it a "6" I liked the negative space, strong contrast, title and impact. I do feel like it is too staged. Nice job.
07/03/2005 08:47:00 PM · #3
Keith, although I gave your pic a 9 and you want comments from others who gave you a low vote, I would like to make an observation...it seems to me that in many cases, if not most, people vote subjectively and not objectively...I still believe the darkness in that shot was necessary and not dead space; it was a good composition: pehaps many people found it disturbing and thought provoking and they couldn't handle it..lol; that's what interested me: the light on the face and expression.

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07/02/2005 02:19:00 AM · #4
other than what everyone else said...perhaps lowering your head would have given a bit more subservient (captured) position. Also, i'm thinking removing your neck and shoulders adds a whole lot to the compostion, balance of light, and emotion level.
06/30/2005 08:35:57 PM · #5
I just joined dp so I wasn't able to vote. I would have given it a 7.

I think that you would have scored a little higher if it was cropped in closer (makes it a little more dramatic), you may have also tried a reflector behind the subjuct to grab just a hint of detail.

Just suggestions.
06/24/2005 09:07:14 AM · #6
Thanks again to everybody who took the time to give me some feedback! Especially the "negative" ones! I think that the comments that really resonated with me the most were the ones that said that the subject (me!) looks too emotionless. I do kind of have a blank stare in this photo, I suppose, but I still liked this shot better than any of the 30 or 40 others that I took. And I'm not sure what kind of expression a man would have on his face after being locked in a dark cell for God knows how long. Maybe those guys DO just stare blankly, lost in their own darkness...
I'm not trying to be defensive, though. I think that those comments were spot on. I totally agree that the blank stare thing makes it difficult to empathize (sp?) with the prisoner. Thanks!

Message edited by author 2005-06-24 12:29:31.
06/23/2005 10:58:10 AM · #7
I gave it a six, but only because of the "jaggies". Really a seven, other-wise.
06/23/2005 10:35:11 AM · #8
Originally posted by ubique:

Grumpy Old Men!


i wish all grumpy old men were as pleasant as you :)
06/23/2005 03:56:56 AM · #9
I did not vote in this challenge - Metal is only the second challenge I have entered, and the first I am actually voting in, so I am new at this. I find that I constantly compare my own score to the photo I am voting on, i.e. I am getting 5.2avg, so if I think the photo is better than mine I give it higher and vice versa. Maybe this is not correct, but it happens subconsciously.
I would have given your photo a 7 ...
06/23/2005 03:23:49 AM · #10
Keith, I left you a comment on that photo. Hope you dont find it offensive. I guess to me, a good photograph isnt about how technically well a photo is shot, but what it relates to me emotionally, or how much I could understand it.
06/23/2005 03:01:45 AM · #11
Maybe a lot of people are like me. I have a really low average voting score (around 4). I use to give scores around 3, 4 and 5 (and sometimes lower), except for the pictures I find interesting. In this case, I give 7, and at the end, I come back to the ones I gave 7, to scale them up to 10.

To get my point: sometimes for me, 5 is not such a bad score. It just means the picture is well done, fit to the requirements of the challenge but brings nothing more to me. In your case, I don't really like the use of the negative black space and I don't get the story behind the shot (if any), even if you obviously want to say something. Then 5.

My 5 cents...
06/23/2005 02:49:37 AM · #12
Originally posted by mikala:

Originally posted by ubique:

The people who scored your exceptional image at 5 or less have nothing to teach you or anyone else.


i'm sorry, but i think it is this type of perspective you shared that keeps people from commenting more.


Yeah, I gues you're right Michelle. I think I was just feeling grumpy because not everyone thought Chris's entry was as good as I did. You know; Grumpy Old Men!
06/23/2005 02:01:24 AM · #13
Originally posted by ubique:

The people who scored your exceptional image at 5 or less have nothing to teach you or anyone else.


that's an interesting perspective but just not the one he asked for. he obviously wants to learn where the 'mass appeal' factor faltered. i personally gave it a '7', but think he has little to learn from that either (heck, my vote was based largely on this capturing an aspect of my job [don't ask! :)] so well).

there was a theme in his responses. several thought it should be more closely cropped, quite a few mentioned the lack of emotional punch. i bet he did learn something from those comments, i know i would have if it were mine and i had his question.

i'm sorry, but i think it is this type of perspective you shared that keeps people from commenting more.
06/23/2005 01:59:39 AM · #14
I gave it a 5. Conceptually, it's a good entry for this challenge. But an image like this needs exceptionally fine composition to fulfill its potential. The head is so centered, and the negative space to the left is doing so little constructive work, that the overall effect is a very static one. I'd have wished for more tension in the composition, more of a sense of "pull" towards the implied freedom of the light. Or, contrariwise, more of a sense of being smothered by the dark. The dark's not really doing anything here, it just is. So, good concept, competent technically, lacking the something extra to lift it in my awareness, an average score for me. Had I been more diligent in going back and reevaluating my votes (something I usually do more thouroughly) I think I'd probably have lifted it to a 6, though.

Certainly, the voters as a group didn't agree with me; your 5th place attests to that.

Robt.

addendum: I see someone commented on the small filesize, 41kb. I don't think you lost anything significant there; the small size of the compressed image is due tot he very large amount of pure black, which takes up very little space in the final jpg file. Nevertheless, using "save for web" and optimizing to 150kb will give you the maximum quality you can obtain within DPC parameters.

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06/23/2005 12:48:23 AM · #15
dude, this was an awesome photo. don't know why anyone would give it a 5 or less. my photo was sorta similar to yours in the way it portrayed darkness, but yours was so much better and it showed in the scores and ranking. some people just don't know a good picture even when it's right under their noses i guess =). j/k. don't fret, top 5 ain't bad at all and the best photos will always get some low scores.
06/22/2005 06:29:59 PM · #16
Christopher,
The people who scored your exceptional image at 5 or less have nothing to teach you or anyone else.

Message edited by author 2005-06-22 18:30:39.
06/22/2005 06:23:23 PM · #17
Thanks everybody for the great feedback! I did not expect such a huge outpouring of comments, but I'm very grateful for it! I think you all made some great points. After considering your thoughts, I now like my photo less than before starting this thread :(

Just kidding!

Thanks again.
06/22/2005 05:46:23 PM · #18
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06/22/2005 05:20:02 PM · #20
It's a clear image but for me, there's zippo emotion. You can see quite a bit of the guy's face and it's not just blank - but completely void of any feeling. A great shot, but it says nothing to me.
06/22/2005 05:14:22 PM · #21
Too much black area,if I go print it 11X14 will suck all of my black cartridge :-)

I would give it 4 honestly,not much interest ,maybe Heida will love it !

At 6.75 it is way overpriced IMHO.

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06/22/2005 05:09:29 PM · #22
I gave it an 8. I found it used the light incredibly well and hit the spot for me.
06/22/2005 05:04:23 PM · #23
I gave it a 7. I thought the photo was technically good, but it didn't really "grab" me. I don't really know what that means though -- I reserve 9's and 10's for those that really strike me.

A comment I made on another image might apply to this one as well.. The image is from the dark looking out at the light. If it were the other way around somehow, I think it would evoke more of a sense of darkness for me.

It's hard to articulate the feelings an image creates in me or more precisely -- *why* those feelings are provoked.

Brian

Message edited by author 2005-06-22 17:06:51.
06/22/2005 05:01:49 PM · #24
I think that the photo doesn't 'grab' me and draw attention, making me want to stay and look at it. The asthetic appeal is not there, and it is fairly plain and simple. These are the things that I think are wrong with the photo. Didn't vote, but would've gave it a 6.

Simon

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06/22/2005 04:49:38 PM · #25
I scored it a 9 dude... Sorry. (That sounds kinda weird!) I thought it was exceptionally well executed & presented! If I had to be picky, I'd probably suggest cropping off more of the left. That's the only thing I can think of...

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