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03/15/2005 05:24:12 PM · #1 |
It would appear so... Arf Arf!
Votes: 398
Views: 626
Avg Vote: 6.0804
Comments: 23
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
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03/15/2005 05:21:28 PM · #2 |
This challenge seems to me worse than the pain challenge!
It's a surreal pain!!!!!
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03/15/2005 05:12:39 PM · #3 |
Votes: 378
Views: 529
Avg Vote: 5.6402
Comments: 10
Favorites: 1
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 03/15/05 05:00 pm
Not so many views, not so many comments. Seems like a lot of "eh..." (Though eight positive comments out of ten is not bad.) |
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03/15/2005 03:53:18 PM · #4 |
Votes: 389
Views: 804
Avg Vote: 5.9332
Comments: 23
Favorites: 1
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 03/15/05 03:46 pm
Lot of "views" and comments. Love it or hate it again.
Frank |
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03/15/2005 03:40:27 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by ralphnev:
Votes: 384
Views: 527
Comments: 13
hold off on the average incase i jinx it ;) |
Where's your bloomin' score! |
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03/15/2005 03:38:47 PM · #6 |
Votes: 384
Views: 527
Comments: 13
hold off on the average incase i jinx it ;) |
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03/15/2005 01:19:23 AM · #7 |
What is funny to me is that there are a few entries which are imitations of a very famous surreal work, which do not fit the definitions so proudly presented here as being the only way one can do a surrealistic work. I wonder if those who proudly took on the leave no prisoners, if it does not contain a juxtaposition of unlikely things, it gets a one took the imitators down with the original surrealists???
Message edited by author 2005-03-15 01:19:57. |
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03/13/2005 08:40:56 PM · #8 |
RE: canoe...
AHAHAHAHA! ROFL! |
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03/13/2005 07:44:50 PM · #9 |
| Yes Catbird (Annette) Mine also fits the definition... to me that is, but for the rest of the populace it deserves stoneing like the licentious harlot it is. So I will bury it in an unmarked grave and let thorns and thistles grow over it to properly decry it's bastard claim to life. |
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03/13/2005 06:35:21 PM · #10 |
curious --
my entry i thought was 'very surreal' -
have had comments on it as a print when i've shown it to 'locals' as very surreal ...
9/10 comments are quite positive but one -
which claimes "doesn't appear surreal"
sigh ....
5.75 and creeping upwords slowly ...
my guess is voters think it's a 6 more than a 5 ...
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03/13/2005 05:57:09 PM · #11 |
| jcclucci - I've edited your post to remove your entry. In order to preserve anonymity and have some semblance of fairness, we ask that users not post or discuss in specifics photos that are currently in a challenge. Thanks! |
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03/13/2005 05:54:40 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by Catbird:
I'm also interested in hearing from those people who's submitted picture really didn't meet the challenge (surely with all this forum talk on the definition of surrealism, there's been some who have said, "Ohhhh, Whoops!"). What are your thoughts on all this? How much is your score suffering from what you thought it would recieve?
-Annette |
That would be me. Hi, my name is Drew and i'm a challenge nonmeeterer. or so i've been told a few times. Not as many as some i'm sure. I really like my photo for surrealism even though i know it can be better on a perfect day.(but i just discovered the shot that day and i will revisit it) I realized after the challenge started and all the forums got going,that it was not the perfect definition of surrealism. BUT when i took it and when i submitted it seemed like something i would only see in a dream or a vision. I think many people wanted to see something more obscure and abstract as well and my shot is based in reality with a dreamlike feel. I would show it here for opinions but I don't know what the rules are on that since the voting is still going on. |
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03/13/2005 05:54:02 PM · #13 |
| Please don't post or mention specific images during the voting stages. |
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03/13/2005 05:52:16 PM · #14 |
My submission . . .
It seems pretty simple but this took ferever for me to get the center clear enough for you to see.
Votes: 323
Views: 445
Avg Vote: 5.2601
Comments: 13
Favorites: 1
Wish Lists: 0
this wasn't what i originaly had planned for surrealism but i was running out of time so this is the best i could get. my 1st idea was to get the moon at night and turn my cammera so the starts would look like they were spinning around it. . . seemed pretty neat to me, but its been overcast so i had to think fast when skys didn't clear up.
Message edited by mk - removed photo currently in challenge. |
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03/13/2005 05:20:31 PM · #15 |
Just to beat a dead horse to death. Surrealism includes other pieces of art than those which were the product of dreams. It also includes a large class of art, in which the unconscious was allowed to make choices in creating the work. In the sculptures of Man Ray he did not even identify or title the work until his unconscious mind was through making choices. His work was highly imaginative, yet contained enough of reality as to have recognizable shapes and forms.
I forgot to mention, in addition to the comments relating to filters, another commenter believed I must have used masks to achieve the effect in my entry. Sincerely, when you believe such things, challenge. I wish there was a way also to challenge whether or not an entry meets the challenge so as to take this judgement out of the hands of those that only profess to know what surrealism is. It is only fair to take the widest view possible in making the judgement as to what meets a challenge and what does not. We come from many different backgrounds and many different understandings. Enjoy these differences don't strive to suppress them.
Message edited by author 2005-03-13 17:24:30. |
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03/13/2005 04:48:51 PM · #16 |
| My 48 hrs. of waiting for validation is almost up. Two more to go, if the validators(?)finish by then. I seriously didn't do anything beyond a crop and desat to the entire image. If for some reason it does get DQ'd I hope someone will tell me why. I was just lucky enough to capture a unique photo. |
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03/13/2005 04:18:23 PM · #17 |
You made me worried.lol After reading your post quickly checked my two favourites... They are still there!!!Originally posted by armin:
It's a really fun challenge with many good entries. My favourite appears to have gone missing though. It was titled something like "The chairmen of the bored". What happened? |
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03/13/2005 04:04:28 PM · #18 |
Surrelisam
literary and art movement influenced by Freudianism and dedicated to the expression of imagination as revealed in dreams, free of the conscious control of reason and free of convention.
it doesn't necessary mean we have to copy the methods of surrealist from that time, but make something that doesn't necessarly mean it makes sense.
At the same time abstraction is something u can't see and recognize what the subject is, and in my piece you can clearly see what it is, and people wrote it's more abstract. its obvious they have no idea what the f they r talking about.
So if i "dream up" a piece of poop flying in the air and shoot it with my camera i bet half of people here would say " THATS JUST NOT SURREAL ENOUGH FOR ME" - oh well, I am not here to copy Dali i Ernst, |
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03/13/2005 03:48:18 PM · #19 |
I have had two comments which state that I used filters to accomplish my entry. My entry has not been challenged. I assume they believe I used artistic filters, but that is not so. In fact, what I did does not break any of the basic rules and as far as I know cannot be accomplished with any art filter.
Please before you take it upon yourself to disqualify an entry in your mind, please challenge it. I think what I have done is a new technique that offers an insight into an importan aspect of digital photography. I believe it is worth sharing. |
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03/13/2005 03:37:23 PM · #20 |
It is a pleasure to know we have so many experts on surrealism who are able to catch it, box it, macro it, ferret it out of so many other schools and define is boundries with such surgical precison, and sum it up in three words... doesn't meet challenge.
I do look forward to comments that give direction and instruction, however if all you are going to say is.. "doesn't meet challenge"... don't bother, it wastes your time and mine and is a useless comment without your reasoning. Comments need to have value, positive or negative in that they specifically address a point of veiw or knowledge.
My 2c. |
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03/13/2005 03:31:52 PM · #21 |
Votes: 302
Views: 405
Avg Vote: 4.5298
Comments: 3
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 03/13/05 03:21 pm
One commenter didn't see the surrealism, one thought it was clever and cute, and another commenter thought it actually met the challenge. I don't think most voters know what they are voting for and have a very narrow view of the elements in surrealism. Just like most challenges here, if it's not "in your face" apparent, you can trust on a low score.
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03/13/2005 02:54:37 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by yelenaa:
yea and some that were validated is obvious that have been messed with beyond basic edit... Coz in basic rules it says u can mess with it as long as it is the whole image not partial parts.Like for filters and so...I know in few that have been validated are major cut and paste, merge and so.... |
As Scalvert pointed out, if the photos have been validated, it means that 16 people (give or take) have compared the unaltered original with the challenge entry and ruled out illegal editing. Perhaps they were done in a way that makes it appear or makes you think that they have been altered beyond legal editing, but they wouldn't be validated if that was the case.
(I hope you are voting as if they are legal, as all voters should.) |
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03/13/2005 01:48:50 PM · #23 |
Some of the entries are beautiful images, but have no surreal element that I can see (it happens in many challenges). They're just, well... realism. They're not technically poor photos, but they have no relation to the challenge that I can see. Those will generally get a 4 or 5 from me, along with a comment about how great the shot is otherwise. Others are borderline, and I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. This is an example of a borderline "realistic" shot that I think has an element of surrealism to it:
As for the editing issue, there are a number of entries that appear to be the obvious result of Photoshop manipulation. Some of those I can figure out, and others I can't. If the image has been validated, though, then I must assume it has been proven to fall within the editing rules. With enough imagination and determination, anything is possible. |
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03/13/2005 01:47:27 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by holdingtime:
Art has always ben subjective but when you enter a forum where the idea is to bring things onto an even playing ground. You need rules........that ugly so unart thing.......but without them how do we play together and have it meen something. Rules so i do think meeting the guidlines is important if this is going to be a lagitimate and even forum. Thank you ........my 2c |
I totally agree, we definitely need the rules, but what I meant was that if you think a photo is not legal then ask for validation and vote as if it was legal...
Anyway what about that:
Votes: 316
Views: 415
Avg Vote: 5.0000
Comments: 6
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 03/13/05 01:33 pm
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03/13/2005 01:32:54 PM · #25 |
| Art has always ben subjective but when you enter a forum where the idea is to bring things onto an even playing ground. You need rules........that ugly so unart thing.......but without them how do we play together and have it meen something. Rules so i do think meeting the guidlines is important if this is going to be a lagitimate and even forum. Thank you ........my 2c |
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