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02/03/2022 12:27:15 PM · #1 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Originally posted by GinaRothfels:
Have you considered an M series Canon camera? They're as small as Olympus and as the sensor is APSC, all your old lenses can be used with an adapter.
There are a couple of negatives though:
1. Very small selection of M mount lenses
2. The top of the range M6 Mark II doesn't have a built in electronic viewfinder, but you can attach one via the hotshoe. That's only really a problem when you want to use external flash. |
I did look at the Canon RP - it will take most of my lenses. I'll take a look at the M series, too. Thanks!! |
With the benefit of hindsight you were right NOT to follow my advice. I'm getting more and more frustrated with Canon's disinterest in their EF-M cameras, and hate the clip on viewfinder.
Right now I'm contemplating upgrading the Olympus OM-D E-M5 (Mark I) which I still own. I've been shooting with that camera some of the time while I decide whether it's a wise move. I even have a recent photo I shot with it in voting right now.
The main attraction of Olympus for me is good IBIS in a small body - probably EM-5 Mark III as I'm not sure I can cope with a heavier camera any more. My hands are really shaky so I'm hoping it will give me sharper pictures than my Canon cameras do. And there are a few uniquely Olympus features that I'd love to have.
Even if I do buy a newer Olympus, I have no intention of selling most of my Canon gear for the foreseeable future. APS-C is better for wide angle where IBIS is less important.
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01/11/2022 10:04:02 AM · #2 |
Originally posted by Molydoly:
Originally posted by Alex_Petrini:
Originally posted by vawendy:
Incredible! Amazing! on beyond incredible! |
I'm trying to sell the house to buy it :)
It's an amazing camera for sure... |
What are the aspects of that camera?
Thank you. |
Don't sell the house.. I already did that, LOL. Also if you wait six to nine months you might see something even better if that's what you want. I've been shopping for a camera and am tempted to get something reasonable and put the money toward another car instead. ;-) |
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11/19/2021 11:29:08 AM · #3 |
| I think I'll give the little Olympus system a shot for now. I'm about to retire from the working world and want new toys! :-) We'll see how it goes. |
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11/19/2021 11:20:16 AM · #4 |
Also, supposedly there will be one or more APS-C RF-mount camera(s). I would not expect to see an announcement before Spring, possibly not until September 2022. I would expect that any APS-C RF-mount camera would have some of the very advanced features of the latest full-frame RF cameras. In particular, the AF performance should be amazing.
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11/19/2021 10:09:23 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by GinaRothfels:
Have you considered an M series Canon camera? They're as small as Olympus and as the sensor is APSC, all your old lenses can be used with an adapter.
There are a couple of negatives though:
1. Very small selection of M mount lenses
2. The top of the range M6 Mark II doesn't have a built in electronic viewfinder, but you can attach one via the hotshoe. That's only really a problem when you want to use external flash. |
I did look at the Canon RP - it will take most of my lenses. I'll take a look at the M series, too. Thanks!! |
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11/19/2021 10:06:59 AM · #6 |
Have you considered an M series Canon camera? They're as small as Olympus and as the sensor is APSC, all your old lenses can be used with an adapter.
There are a couple of negatives though:
1. Very small selection of M mount lenses
2. The top of the range M6 Mark II doesn't have a built in electronic viewfinder, but you can attach one via the hotshoe. That's only really a problem when you want to use external flash.
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11/18/2021 10:57:52 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by LevT:
90% of the time I use a 12-100 f4. Amazingly good lens for a superzoom. I also carry 7-14 f2.8 which is fantastic, but I am not too much into landscapes, so it is wider than I normally need. And a 75mm f1.8 that I use mainly for portraits. All of them are excellent optical quality and superbly built. |
Thanks! Good info - much appreciated! |
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11/18/2021 10:52:39 PM · #8 |
| 90% of the time I use a 12-100 f4. Amazingly good lens for a superzoom. I also carry 7-14 f2.8 which is fantastic, but I am not too much into landscapes, so it is wider than I normally need. And a 75mm f1.8 that I use mainly for portraits. All of them are excellent optical quality and superbly built. |
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11/18/2021 09:25:47 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by LevT:
Deb, in terms of weight, the biggest difference between full-frame and micro-4/3 rigs are the lenses, not so much the body. Olympus lenses are MUCH smaller and lighter than equivalent full-frame lenses, and they are the same of even better quality. The small sensor... well, yes, it is no match to a full-frame in noise performance, but unless you print big, it is not a huge problem. And noise-reduction software gets smarter and smarter :) |
Thanks, Lev - I was hoping you'd chime in as you have the Olympus. Lens envy - of the ones you have, which do you prefer? The 7-14 is a pretty hefty price, but is probably the lens I'd use most often. |
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11/18/2021 09:19:09 PM · #10 |
| Deb, in terms of weight, the biggest difference between full-frame and micro-4/3 rigs are the lenses, not so much the body. Olympus lenses are MUCH smaller and lighter than equivalent full-frame lenses, and they are the same of even better quality. The small sensor... well, yes, it is no match to a full-frame in noise performance, but unless you print big, it is not a huge problem. And noise-reduction software gets smarter and smarter :) |
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11/18/2021 07:23:12 PM · #11 |
Hey! New equipment thread! Congrats, Wendy, on the new gear!!
I'm not a wildlife photographer, but I AM considering a move into the mirrorless world. Right now I'm looking at the little Olympus cameras - EM-1 Mark II, EM-5 Mark III, etc. Glass is still pretty steep for what I'd like (7-14 for instance) so I'm wondering if it's worth going the micro four-thirds bit or lookng at a larger sensor. Advantage to the smaller camera is, of course, a smaller camera - lighter, easier to carry, etc. But the Canon R6, for instance, isn't THAT much bigger or heavier, and would still use the glass I have (minus the wide angle - I'd have to get a new one.)
Thoughts? |
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08/01/2021 02:55:02 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
I think new toys are fun too! ... and I'm still jealous. :-)
Now, for an applicable bit of humor. :-D
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The "correct" compliment is "You really know how to get the best out of your camera gear" ... |
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08/01/2021 02:23:22 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
I think new toys are fun too! ... and I'm still jealous. :-)
Now, for an applicable bit of humor. :-D
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Haha!! That's a great comeback! I'll have to remember that one. :)
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08/01/2021 02:21:54 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by GinaRothfels:
I know just how you feel Wendy. While my new toy is nowhere near the calibre of yours, I'm thrilled by the new features which have already allowed me to capture a few images I'd never have been able to get before. |
I'm so glad you're having fun with it!! |
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08/01/2021 12:15:26 PM · #15 |
I think new toys are fun too! ... and I'm still jealous. :-)
Now, for an applicable bit of humor. :-D
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08/01/2021 12:08:57 PM · #16 |
| I am happy to hear you are excited about the new hardware that it has helped spark enthusiasm for getting out. It is awesome that some of its features are helping you to hone your skills to new levels. I am looking forward to seeing the results. |
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08/01/2021 12:03:16 PM · #17 |
I know just how you feel Wendy. While my new toy is nowhere near the calibre of yours, I'm thrilled by the new features which have already allowed me to capture a few images I'd never have been able to get before.
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08/01/2021 11:15:13 AM · #18 |
*sigh*
This wasn't meant to be a competition. I was just excited about a new toy that has allowed me to truly start learning again. The way it handles the things that I do have opened up new avenues and have allowed me to start the process of perfecting things on which I had long given up.
This is about joy. |
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08/01/2021 07:10:59 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by JakeKurdsjuk:
I look at it this way, unless you're still shooting 100% manual, including the focusing, then you've already compromised on one aspect of the "art" and have no business commenting on the rest with regards to tech. |
I almost choked when I read this.....I have run into so many people put off initially from photography because some elitist prick badgered them into "Getting that thing off program and shooting like a real photographer.".
Yah well, the people I work with, I want them to get a feel for just shooting and learning about composition and developing what it was that made them want to go out and spend some serious change for a decent camera. We can work on technicals later......let's work on the fun stuff first.
Originally posted by JakeKurdsjuk:
Auto-focus systems have been around for a long time and have constantly been improving, so how can it be "cheating" to use the most advanced? I say it shouldn't feel like cheating, it should feel like a relief because they're finally getting it right and I don't have to wonder why IT missed so many shots where I was aimed right at what I wanted?! |
Yup. The technology is there and it keeps getting better.
Apparently this is a VERY big deal for you wildlife folks. That's awesome.
I take a lot of pictures of abandoned stuff. Not only doesn't it move, it usually hasn't moved in decades.
Landscapes (Bridgescapes) too. They don't move much, either. So I'm good with my brick.
Originally posted by JakeKurdsjuk:
I'm not comparing the ease with which you and I can now shoot wildlife to the way in which some where able to capture it 30-40 years ago, but it still comes down to the difference between capturing a moment and doing it in a way, at an angle, and with a composition that's exhibits more from the viewer than, "Wow, that's an amazing capture!" We're in an age of a million "keepers" from just about anyone. But I can still look through 100 keepers folks have posted and still only stop at one or two. |
"Great pic, you must have an amazing camera!"
Must. Resist. Urge. To. Smack. Idiot. LOL!
Vivi  LoVi is a potter, sculptor, painter, makes soap, grows sage and makes sage sticks, and is just in general a multi-faceted artist.
She and I have a running joke in our gallery when people start asking really stupid questions. I tell 'em she's the artist and I'm "just the photographer.".
You'd be astonished at how often that just flies right by.
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08/01/2021 05:57:56 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
I hope the general's right -- because it sure feels like cheating!! I would spend the entire day trying to get "the" shot. And now I'm getting many "the" shots in a short period of time! |
I look at it this way, unless you're still shooting 100% manual, including the focusing, then you've already compromised on one aspect of the "art" and have no business commenting on the rest with regards to tech. Older golfers complain that modern day equipment has rendered older courses obsolete, and with some of them it has. But there's still Augusta National where the golfer-as-shot-artist is tested.
Auto-focus systems have been around for a long time and have constantly been improving, so how can it be "cheating" to use the most advanced? I say it shouldn't feel like cheating, it should feel like a relief because they're finally getting it right and I don't have to wonder why IT missed so many shots where I was aimed right at what I wanted?!
I'm not comparing the ease with which you and I can now shoot wildlife to the way in which some where able to capture it 30-40 years ago, but it still comes down to the difference between capturing a moment and doing it in a way, at an angle, and with a composition that's exhibits more from the viewer than, "Wow, that's an amazing capture!" We're in an age of a million "keepers" from just about anyone. But I can still look through 100 keepers folks have posted and still only stop at one or two. |
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07/31/2021 08:24:29 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
technology is simply bringing us more.
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Sometimes it's a lot of fun to have more. :D
I'm probably just experiencing what people have over the years. This is probably the feeling that people had when the canon EOS 1D came out, or even the 5D. I don't know that I've ever bought the top of the line anything in my life. And it only happened because, as you say, my old stuff was still very good, so I was able to sell to pay for it. There is no way on earth I would have been able to do it otherwise. Absolutely none. |
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07/31/2021 07:16:46 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
I do understand both of your reactions, Lev and Jeb |
The context is what's important.
Originally posted by vawendy:
But the A1 has changed so much for me, as a wildlife photographer. I'm reliably getting the shots I want, instead of lucking in to them. Even after all the years I've been doing it, I still considered it "lucky" if I got my shot.
It really is as significant as moving from manual focus to auto focus. And perhaps if you shoot only stationary objects, that's not a big deal. But if you are trying to catch a small songbird in flight -- it's absolutely huge. |
TOTALLY understand.
One quick aside..... I pretty much get what I want when I raise my camera and push the button. Through years of work, and the extraordinary education I gotten through this community, I'm a pretty good photographer. That makes me happy.
I so relate to your lucky comment. I know I've been graced with an inordinate amount of photographic luck. I gotten some shots that when you look at how I arrived at them, there was simply no other explanation for them other than luck or grace.
Yes, I got the best out of the circumstances 'cause I know what to do, and yes, I've got one heck of a camera.
Back to equipment.....
This image is four feet high by seven feet thee inches wide. The actual image file is six feet by eleven feet.
This is as big as I've been able to get it printed and that was from a friend of mine with a $250,000 printer that could accomodate a five foot wide cancas roll.
This is a crappy cell pohone shot of it on our gallery wall. I have sold $5000-$6000 of this image in various sizes. It has been my pride & joy on multiple levels for over a decade.
Here's the bad boy that shot this image, check those specs!!! 6.1MP Nikon Archives: D70s
So, I still have that camera, it still works, but when I have it side by side with either my D810 or D850, it pales in comparison.
And I *like* my big ol' bad bricks!
I'm sure the Alpha 1 is magnificent. I'm pleased as punch that it does what you want it to and then some, Wendy.
But I think there's too much of a tendency for people to get caught up in the technology wave.
Kinda like PhotoShop..... I use Elements, and have for about a decade. It does what I want, it's simple and cheap. Heck, I don't even know how to use a lot of it.
If I don't get what I want in three to five minutes when I start on a RAW file, it was a crappy shot and I move on.
My daughter just got a Sony A7R II and a 24-70 f4 Zeiss lens. At my suggestion. It will more than serve her needs for her business product photography. I was glad to save her a bunch of trial and error to get the right unit.
I just hope people understand that the best camera in the world from seven years ago is still one heck of a camera. It didn't lose any of its capabilities, technology is simply bringing us more.
YMMV..
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07/31/2021 07:16:11 PM · #23 |
| Makes me want to take up my old Nikon Coolpix and catch a heron or two. |
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07/31/2021 05:53:09 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
I do understand both of your reactions, Lev and Jeb -- but to wildlife photographers, it's huge. |
I totally get that Wendy. If I were into wildlife photography I would probably go for it. When I was in Namibia I wished I had a rig similar to yours. Luckily for my family budget, I'm not a wildlife photographer )) |
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07/31/2021 04:49:11 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by jomari:
How do I sell our house without my husband noticing? |
hahahaha!
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