low nr of comments ? want more? can give more?

02/13/2021 05:35:36 PM · #1

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

I always mark the comment as helpful. I appreciate that someone stopped and took the time to comment. I've gotten some that I didn't like, some I didn't agree with, and that's just fine. I *still* appreciate it that they took the time.

This is true for me, too... except for a very, very few.

I enjoy reading positive and negative comments on my images.

02/13/2021 12:11:38 AM · #2

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

same .. :)

NikonJeb

Nikon D850

02/12/2021 10:24:26 PM · #3

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

02/12/2021 04:01:05 PM · #4

not sure if this would be the place to put this information ..
but here goes .. !! ..

this was for the where's bernie challenge . .
was struck by how many wonderful images ppl had entered ..
btw .. there are two images i have to think about more ..

You have rated 52 of 54 images (96%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 26 images (48%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 6.7115.

also .. i have never looked to see if my comments get a like or not .. doesnt particularly worry me ..
when i give a comment i pretty much go with the first thing that i think .. my gut reaction .. if i have nothing positive to say i say nothing at all or i look for the positives to be found in the image and comment on those ..
i hope that my comments give ppl a good feeling about their photos .. i'm not here to judge as such .. but hopefully to inspire .. :)

Message edited by author 2021-02-12 16:03:10.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

02/10/2021 01:47:26 PM · #5

Originally posted by MaryO:

Originally posted by Elaine:
One reason I don't comment much is because most aren't marked helpful. If my time is not helpful then why do it?

I find that figuring out how to articulate my reaction to an image often helps me learn, and trying to be polite about critiquing some aspect of it forces me to look for something to appreciate about an image. There's usually something. Although there are those images I just don't get no matter how long I study them. And the images that are technically fine, meet the challenge, and completely underwhelm me. I'm not sure commenting on those is all that useful if I can't see how I would have done it differently. But stopping to think about it has value for me.

I (and many others) over the years have learned that making thoughtful comments is of far more value to the writer than the photographer in terms of helping one become a "better" photographer.

There was a period of time when (apparently) quite a few people discouraged by getting inappropriate responses to their comments. I don't think that's happening now, and I try to send a note to any commenter who asks a question or offers an interesting perspective -- hopefully that's encouraging ...

NikonJeb

Nikon D850

Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II

02/10/2021 12:15:55 PM · #6

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Originally posted by willem:
expect many others to be here.

That's a treacherous path, and not entirely fair.

....

Originally posted by willem:

I did not mean to be disrespectful to others who are here for different reasons. I just was assuming because that is why the site was originally set up (as stated in the "about"section).

Didn't think you were. But then how many people read the about section on *any* site? LOL!

If you want some interesting insight, search the archives, and/or start one of the threads that cycles around every now and again asking how people go about scoring.

I'm always intrigued at how some people do their voting.

I will fully admit that I *should* comment more than I do.

I just didn't need YOU to point that out!

LOL!!!

Venser

Olympus 40-150mm f/2.8 PRO M.Zuiko

02/10/2021 07:59:36 AM · #7

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

You can rest assured that if you want to make a quest out of voting and commenting, it absolutely, unequivocally *will* be greatly appreciated.

Unless one simply gives out adulating comments, I don't believe your statement is correct.

02/10/2021 04:35:28 AM · #8

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Originally posted by willem:
expect many others to be here.

That's a treacherous path, and not entirely fair.

....

I did not mean to be disrespectful to others who are here for different reasons. I just was assuming because that is why the site was originally set up (as stated in the "about"section).

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

02/10/2021 04:27:43 AM · #9

Originally posted by Lydia:

You have rated 66 of 66 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 20 images (30%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 6.1515.

Great. Thanks. I hope others will follow your example.

snaffles

Nikon D7100

02/09/2021 07:03:40 PM · #10

Willem, once upon a time I was at the top of the Critique Club heap...and last I checked, I was still in the #2 position after sidpixel, who seems to have left the site.

It was always somewhat aggravating to write a critique - which must be requested in order to be in the queue - only to get no acknowledgement or thanks at all for the work done. Which, for me anyway, involved looking at a photo from both the technical and artistic side and offering constructive criticism. I know that some of those who asked me to critique their pics actually took my advice and went on to vastly improve, and yes, to even ribbon and win.

Anyway, I definitely hear where you are coming from. I am thinking of getting back into critiquing, maybe you would also find it a rewarding experience.

NikonJeb

Nikon D850

02/09/2021 05:47:26 PM · #11

Originally posted by willem:

expect many others to be here.

That's a treacherous path, and not entirely fair.

It's not a bad thing to encourage the community, but you have no idea about someone's reason for being here.

If they sign up as a user and/or pay for membership, there is no requirement for voting and commenting.

You don't know who's suffering in such a manner that this is a small beacon of solace in an otherwise chaotic life.....just as a getaway from regular life.

Comments and votes should be done because you want to and are inspired to do so.

If that doesn't meet someone's expectations, too bad, but you cannot fault others because they don't share your level of commitment to the site.

*EVERY* time someone tries to have the site do something like "Have to tell someone why if you leave a 1." or that kind of thing it gets shot down.

Try and force people to participate and you'll lose them.

You can rest assured that if you want to make a quest out of voting and commenting, it absolutely, unequivocally *will* be greatly appreciated.

02/09/2021 03:18:09 PM · #12

You have rated 66 of 66 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 20 images (30%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 6.1515.

MaryO

Nikon Z8

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L IS II USM Lens

02/09/2021 09:57:07 AM · #13

Originally posted by Elaine:

One reason I don't comment much is because most aren't marked helpful. If my time is not helpful then why do it?

I find that figuring out how to articulate my reaction to an image often helps me learn, and trying to be polite about critiquing some aspect of it forces me to look for something to appreciate about an image. There's usually something. Although there are those images I just don't get no matter how long I study them. And the images that are technically fine, meet the challenge, and completely underwhelm me. I'm not sure commenting on those is all that useful if I can't see how I would have done it differently. But stopping to think about it has value for me.

Elaine

Canon EOS R5

02/09/2021 07:30:06 AM · #14

Originally posted by Lydia:

Originally posted by willem:

Originally posted by Lydia:

Originally posted by willem:
Free study: a total of 96 comments. So disappointing. I did approx. 1/3rd of them. Does not take a lot of time. Please ...

I'll try to step up my game, Willem.

I noticed that you don't mark most of the comments you receive as being "helpful". What's your theory behind that?

That does not help anyone to become a better photographer and that is why I am here and expect many others to be here.

I was thinking that marking the comments you do get as "helpful" would encourage that commenter to comment again... knowing that the photographer appreciated the effort they took to leave a comment.

And, also... the reverse. "Why should I comment, if no one thinks my comments are 'helpful'?"

Or... maybe we aren't talking about the same thing?

One reason I don't comment much is because most aren't marked helpful. If my time is not helpful then why do it?

02/09/2021 05:20:38 AM · #15

Originally posted by Lydia:

You might be right. People might be sensitive to that (although I am not), so I will go and mark all 69 comments now that I received the past year.
There are still a lot of people that don't comment at all, so for those it will not make a difference.

02/08/2021 04:44:58 PM · #16

Originally posted by willem:

Originally posted by Lydia:

Originally posted by willem:
Free study: a total of 96 comments. So disappointing. I did approx. 1/3rd of them. Does not take a lot of time. Please ...

I'll try to step up my game, Willem.

I noticed that you don't mark most of the comments you receive as being "helpful". What's your theory behind that?

That does not help anyone to become a better photographer and that is why I am here and expect many others to be here.

I was thinking that marking the comments you do get as "helpful" would encourage that commenter to comment again... knowing that the photographer appreciated the effort they took to leave a comment.

And, also... the reverse. "Why should I comment, if no one thinks my comments are 'helpful'?"

Or... maybe we aren't talking about the same thing?

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

02/08/2021 04:18:55 PM · #17

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by roz:
... hope everyone is having a wonderful day ..
mine is just beginning here in australia .. :)

hahahaha .. !! .. ;)

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

02/08/2021 03:46:28 PM · #18

Originally posted by roz:

... hope everyone is having a wonderful day ..
mine is just beginning here in australia .. :)

Venser

Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II

Olympus 40-150mm f/2.8 PRO M.Zuiko

02/08/2021 03:43:36 PM · #19

Originally posted by roz:

i always hesitate to give a 'negative' critique as i recognize that it is only my opinion .. and someone else may have an entirely different opinion .. so i leave that to people who are more confident in giving that sort of feedback ..
that way whoever receives the comments will get a variety of 'positive' and 'negative' ..

hope everyone is having a wonderful day ..
mine is just beginning here in australia .. :)

I always find it easy to describe why I don't like something. But there's only so many ways you can say bland, mundane, boring, cliched, or I've seen it too many times before.
Now explaining why I like something is the real difficulty. It often just works.

And we'll see how the day goes. The market is still open and Trump's impeachment is underway.

02/08/2021 03:08:46 PM · #20

its interesting to read everyone's different approaches to commenting ..
and i feel all approaches are valid ..
its great to have such diversity .. :)

when i comment on ppl's photographs i want to inspire them .. and i know from my own experience in dpc that getting positive feedback has been a huge motivator and confidence boost in my photography ..
when one of my photos has received a less than glowing comment i take that on board .. sometimes i will agree with the critique and i will see what i missed .. other times it doesnt fit with my own opinion .. and that's ok .. we all have different likes and dislikes ..
for example i love shallow depth of field .. used 'appropriately' .. other ppl are less enamored by it .. etc etc ..

i always hesitate to give a 'negative' critique as i recognize that it is only my opinion .. and someone else may have an entirely different opinion .. so i leave that to people who are more confident in giving that sort of feedback ..
that way whoever receives the comments will get a variety of 'positive' and 'negative' ..

hope everyone is having a wonderful day ..
mine is just beginning here in australia .. :)

02/08/2021 02:27:54 PM · #21

Originally posted by Lydia:

Originally posted by willem:
Free study: a total of 96 comments. So disappointing. I did approx. 1/3rd of them. Does not take a lot of time. Please ...

I'll try to step up my game, Willem.

I noticed that you don't mark most of the comments you receive as being "helpful". What's your theory behind that?

That does not help anyone to become a better photographer and that is why I am here and expect many others to be here.

Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II

02/08/2021 02:19:29 PM · #22

Originally posted by willem:

Free study: a total of 96 comments. So disappointing. I did approx. 1/3rd of them. Does not take a lot of time. Please ...

I'll try to step up my game, Willem.

I noticed that you don't mark most of the comments you receive as being "helpful". What's your theory behind that?

Venser

Olympus 40-150mm f/2.8 PRO M.Zuiko

02/08/2021 02:07:28 PM · #23

I'd comment more, but time is severely constricted.
And if I do comment I'd rather it be something critical, insightful, and/or meaningful.