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01/14/2017 05:32:55 PM · #1 |
Back in June, long before '2 weeks' we were told that DPL was about to happen?
I am happy with two weeks but will gladly go back if one week works for more people.
I think there are too many challenges. Voting and commenting becomes overwhelming. I think participation would increase if there were far fewer challenges.
I also think that having curated/juried challenges every few months with actual (modest) prizes would zip things up. Why don't we try and see what happens
with a few challenges each week? |
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01/14/2017 04:51:58 PM · #2 |
oops wrong thread... nothing to see here.
Message edited by author 2017-01-14 16:52:41. |
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01/14/2017 04:40:13 PM · #3 |
| So the only thing stopping a DPL season from happening is the fact we now have a 2 week submission frame? |
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01/14/2017 04:08:58 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by MAK:
I remember also back in the stoneage that we used to run the TPL outside of the code of this site, it was then incorporated into the site, great. now the site has changed so the DPL cannot function under the new time scale HOWEVER! we have talentd people around that can run a code like we did back in the Jurassic period so maybe we should do that again, like it was back in the day of the Olympics etc etc. |
The issue was (and is) that back when we did the WPL ex officio, there was considerable blowback from those who felt that team members were engaging in nefarious voting practices etc etc. By incorporating the league into the fabric of the site we were able to make it impossible to vote on your teammates' images, and we were able to provide private discussion forums for team members to communicate amongst themselves; both HUGE positives. I'm not sure it would be a good idea to go back to the "unmanaged" version... |
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01/14/2017 04:02:08 PM · #5 |
I remember also back in the stoneage that we used to run the TPL outside of the code of this site, it was then incorporated into the site, great. now the site has changed so the DPL cannot function under the new time scale HOWEVER! we have talentd people around that can run a code like we did back in the Jurassic period so maybe we should do that again, like it was back in the day of the Olympics etc etc.
Just saying. |
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01/14/2017 03:26:20 PM · #6 |
| It's not the smaller number of active participants that is holding up DPL, it's strictly a programming issue. As I understand it (and this is just a personal observation) the site was coded, by hand, back in the stone age (like, 2002!) and it's completely archaic coding. So it's not like any of our members, for example, who understand modern website creation etc can just step in to HELP Langdon :-( And Langdon's a young father with two children and a very responsible job, unlike in 2002 when he and Drew were bachelors flexing their wings. So when we switched up to 2 weeks on the challenges (which as far as we can see has been a VERY good thing) we basically dropped the hammer on Langdon because there's a LOT of work to be done, laboriously and by hand, to adapt the DPL to the new format. Same goes for all the other changes we'd love to see, sadly. I'm honestly not sure if there's any workaround for this. Except to wait... I think it will happen. |
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01/14/2017 02:57:50 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by wbanning:
I only did DPL once and enjoy begin part of the Underground team of passionate visionaries (maybe blurred visionaries is a better characterization).
But, I wondering if the challenge of running a DPL with the diminished number of participants recently has something to do with it's absence. |
If anything, DPL would bring some people back, right? And about the duration thing... I'm another one that really doesn't care one way or another, but I do like the number of challenges. Being more active on DPC again was kind of on my list of resolutions this year. I'm eagerly waiting for DPL! How about we quit trying to fix what ain't broken and get on with it... or am I missing something? |
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01/14/2017 01:22:33 PM · #8 |
I only did DPL once and enjoy begin part of the Underground team of passionate visionaries (maybe blurred visionaries is a better characterization).
But, I wondering if the challenge of running a DPL with the diminished number of participants recently has something to do with it's absence. |
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01/13/2017 11:16:45 PM · #9 |
Alice is right:
At this point, I don't really care, one way or the other, on the duration of Challenges.
Just so they exist.
Why don't we adapt. Put in your calendar what you want to shoot or shoehorn...too many opinions. All these changes won't help the site. My 2 cents |
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01/13/2017 11:07:24 PM · #10 |
At this point, I don't really care, one way or the other, on the duration of Challenges.
Just so they exist.
However, I do lament the loss of the DPL. This chance to interact with others in DPC,
and to work towards a common goal is a terrific way to build friendships and strengthen
our community.
Still, I understand it is a tremendous amount of volunteer work for our Site Council and
for Langdon, so I can understand why it has been set aside. |
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01/13/2017 10:29:25 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by Dennisheckman:
I like the longer time frame and the longer list to choose from. More choices are usually better in most circumstances. And I agree, lets get DPL back again! That really helps to make me grow as an artist. And I love the interaction with the team. |
+ on all this. It's winter. I don't get out much. But when I do, I really enjoy having a number of challenges to shoot for and consider. I have always enjoyed the teams I was on. |
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01/13/2017 07:11:10 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by Dennisheckman:
I like the longer time frame and the longer list to choose from. More choices are usually better in most circumstances. And I agree, lets get DPL back again! That really helps to make me grow as an artist. And I love the interaction with the team. |
Team SL :P |
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01/13/2017 06:37:33 PM · #13 |
| I like the longer time frame and the longer list to choose from. More choices are usually better in most circumstances. And I agree, lets get DPL back again! That really helps to make me grow as an artist. And I love the interaction with the team. |
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01/13/2017 03:58:50 PM · #14 |
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01/13/2017 03:55:05 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by tnun:
Originally posted by bvy:
Yes. Now cut back the number of challenges. |
why not try this? |
It would involve taking away a member-only challenge each week -- people who have paid "for two challenges a week" might feel cheated. Personally, I'd be fine with one Open and one Member challenge each week (plus the monthly FSs) ... |
Luckily there is nothing in the FAQ that claims membership includes 2 "paid" challenge per week :)
//www.dpchallenge.com/help_faq.php#memberbenefits |
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01/13/2017 03:49:17 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by tnun:
Originally posted by bvy:
Yes. Now cut back the number of challenges. |
why not try this? |
It would involve taking away a member-only challenge each week -- people who have paid "for two challenges a week" might feel cheated. Personally, I'd be fine with one Open and one Member challenge each week (plus the monthly FSs) ... |
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01/13/2017 03:45:57 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by bvy:
Yes. Now cut back the number of challenges. |
why not try this? |
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01/13/2017 03:22:03 PM · #18 |
| I think it is a great idea stick with it |
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01/13/2017 01:25:23 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by Kobba:
I like the two time period. There were a lot of times in the pass when I really wanted to enter a challenge because I had a great idea but needed a bit more time to pull it off or to make a trip to specific location. |
Exactly, so the new 2-week time frame works better for me. The increased number of challenges means more to choose from, and I try to be selective, and more to the point with stuff like Extended challenges, I actually have the luxury of the time I need to figure out what I need to do in PS.
As for the DPL, I was never really involved in it so can't say I miss it that much. |
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01/13/2017 12:24:20 PM · #20 |
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01/13/2017 10:55:00 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
But I'd rather have dpl -2 weeks or 1- than not have it |
Me too... the DPL is why I used to go out and shoot, now I sit in the kitchen and shoot whatever :( |
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01/13/2017 10:24:43 AM · #22 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
I lost the impetus when the two weeks went into effect. When I shot early during the submission period, I didn't care nearly as much when the voting started. And I shoehorned more-with so many challenges, it was easier to find a challenge in which to stick outtakes. I'm happier with the one week, but I'm trying to get back entering again. I do think we are getting a few more entries this way. It's too bad we can't have some with one and some with two: but that would get too confusing. Though I'd love to see one week regular and minimal and two weeks for extended. :)
It is a real shame that it affected dpl. And I do think the two week would be way too long for dpl. Even though it doesn't extend it by more than a week, again the 3 week from beginning to end doesn't really give you that urgency to get out and get shooting. |
But I'd rather have dpl -2 weeks or 1- than not have it |
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01/13/2017 10:23:47 AM · #23 |
I lost the impetus when the two weeks went into effect. When I shot early during the submission period, I didn't care nearly as much when the voting started. And I shoehorned more-with so many challenges, it was easier to find a challenge in which to stick outtakes. I'm happier with the one week, but I'm trying to get back entering again. I do think we are getting a few more entries this way. It's too bad we can't have some with one and some with two: but that would get too confusing. Though I'd love to see one week regular and minimal and two weeks for extended. :)
It is a real shame that it affected dpl. And I do think the two week would be way too long for dpl. Even though it doesn't extend it by more than a week, again the 3 week from beginning to end doesn't really give you that urgency to get out and get shooting. |
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01/13/2017 10:00:21 AM · #24 |
| 2 weeks appears to work better for me as well. |
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01/13/2017 09:46:06 AM · #25 |
Originally posted by MAK:
The main thing for me is that it seems to of messed up the TPL/DPL and Myself & plenty of others enjoyed playing the team game.
There has been no talk of running DPL again and this is very sad for me.
I would like to see the site return to the 1 week, fewer challenges and have the DPL running again as was promised. |
I would like to have DPL back again too. At the same time I love 2 weeks fornthe submission, the only way I have to submit images lately. |
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