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09/06/2015 11:02:52 PM · #1 |
Well, they left this morning at 5 am. Tonight they are in Paducah, KY...(WHO THE HELL named that TOWN!!!) They will be stopping in Colby, KS tomorrow.
Rochelle's 26th BD is today...(quivering smile) |
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08/29/2015 11:56:46 PM · #2 |
Originally posted by Ja-9:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
I recommend handkerchiefs, dear. So much classier :-) |
BUT I'll have to WASH n IRON them!!!...sniff. |
Washing 'em is easy, just have a liddle mesh-baggy thing and dump em with the other washes. I don't iron mine, and neither should you. Unless they're hoity-toity hankies, which aren't the kind I'm talkin about here. No, I'm referring to genuine, man-sized, plain white, 100% cotton, stuff-em-in-your-jeans-pocket HONKERS! |
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08/29/2015 11:23:48 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
I recommend handkerchiefs, dear. So much classier :-) |
BUT I'll have to WASH n IRON them!!!...sniff. |
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08/29/2015 10:48:19 PM · #4 |
| I recommend handkerchiefs, dear. So much classier :-) |
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08/29/2015 08:45:09 PM · #5 |
| Wow, this sure has taken a left turn!!! LOL!!! Just got home from NC, boy is it cooler there by a mile!!! This week will be a busy one, working and packing Rochelle up. She and Rick will be leaving this next Sunday...I keep repeating..."I will be brave...I will be brave"!!! (mind you...I'll also have LOTS of Kleenex on hand!!) |
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08/27/2015 09:16:19 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by sfalice:
I remember that airport too. On a flight from SF to San Diego we had about a 5 minute window to land before the airport was fogged in and the flight would have been diverted back to LA. The pilot of that 727 turned the plane into a STOL aircraft and landed in one of the steepest descents I've ever experienced. Long time ago, PSA airlines.
Okay, back to Denver.
:) |
Heck, that steep descent had nothing to do with any special circumstances: the planes fly right over downtown San Diego on their approach. That's why we don't have any real skyscrapers in San Diego, actually... FAA rules. |
Well the pilot said...but you're right. It was something like flying into the old Hong Kong airport where the scenery got a bit intimate. |
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08/27/2015 06:03:55 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by sfalice:
I remember that airport too. On a flight from SF to San Diego we had about a 5 minute window to land before the airport was fogged in and the flight would have been diverted back to LA. The pilot of that 727 turned the plane into a STOL aircraft and landed in one of the steepest descents I've ever experienced. Long time ago, PSA airlines.
Okay, back to Denver.
:) |
Heck, that steep descent had nothing to do with any special circumstances: the planes fly right over downtown San Diego on their approach. That's why we don't have any real skyscrapers in San Diego, actually... FAA rules. |
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08/27/2015 02:36:33 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by Ann:
I like to contrast it to what San Diego did while I was living there. The city decided that their airport was too small, and, being right next to downtown, too many well connected people were bothered by airplane noise. So they spun up an "airport commission," a group of high powered and well connected San Diegans, to find alternative locations and make a recommendation. The commission spent the next 10 years looking at alternatives, including a binacional airport that would sit right on top of the Mexican border and serve both countries, and an airport 100 miles out into the desert that would be connected to the city by a mag-lev train. The conclusion they came to was that the only viable location was where the marine base is at Miramar, which was a) owned by the Marines, and b) very close to the homes of another group of well connected people. Both the Marines and the city refused, and the city told the airport commission to try again. The airport commission, however, said that they had spent ten years looking at every possible alternative, and there was no realistic alternative to Miramar. Then they disbanded, and the airport continues to sit exactly where it has always been. |
I love that airport :-) Just a 5-minute straight shot from where I lived. Heck, I could WALK to the airport if I wanted... |
I remember that airport too. On a flight from SF to San Diego we had about a 5 minute window to land before the airport was fogged in and the flight would have been diverted back to LA. The pilot of that 727 turned the plane into a STOL aircraft and landed in one of the steepest descents I've ever experienced. Long time ago, PSA airlines.
Okay, back to Denver.
:) |
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08/27/2015 12:59:51 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by Ann:
I like to contrast it to what San Diego did while I was living there. The city decided that their airport was too small, and, being right next to downtown, too many well connected people were bothered by airplane noise. So they spun up an "airport commission," a group of high powered and well connected San Diegans, to find alternative locations and make a recommendation. The commission spent the next 10 years looking at alternatives, including a binacional airport that would sit right on top of the Mexican border and serve both countries, and an airport 100 miles out into the desert that would be connected to the city by a mag-lev train. The conclusion they came to was that the only viable location was where the marine base is at Miramar, which was a) owned by the Marines, and b) very close to the homes of another group of well connected people. Both the Marines and the city refused, and the city told the airport commission to try again. The airport commission, however, said that they had spent ten years looking at every possible alternative, and there was no realistic alternative to Miramar. Then they disbanded, and the airport continues to sit exactly where it has always been. |
I love that airport :-) Just a 5-minute straight shot from where I lived. Heck, I could WALK to the airport if I wanted... |
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08/27/2015 10:25:41 AM · #10 |
I always figured they built that thing there because that's where the most politically connected people were going to make the most money on land speculation. Denver had a perfectly good airport in a really convenient location on the edge of town already. All DIA did was make flying in and out of Denver more expensive and time consuming. Before it was built, Denver was the second busiest airport in the country, after O'Hare. Immediately after it was built, airport traffic dropped significantly, because airlines didn't want to pay the high fees, and found alternative ways to get people across the country.
I like to contrast it to what San Diego did while I was living there. The city decided that their airport was too small, and, being right next to downtown, too many well connected people were bothered by airplane noise. So they spun up an "airport commission," a group of high powered and well connected San Diegans, to find alternative locations and make a recommendation. The commission spent the next 10 years looking at alternatives, including a binacional airport that would sit right on top of the Mexican border and serve both countries, and an airport 100 miles out into the desert that would be connected to the city by a mag-lev train. The conclusion they came to was that the only viable location was where the marine base is at Miramar, which was a) owned by the Marines, and b) very close to the homes of another group of well connected people. Both the Marines and the city refused, and the city told the airport commission to try again. The airport commission, however, said that they had spent ten years looking at every possible alternative, and there was no realistic alternative to Miramar. Then they disbanded, and the airport continues to sit exactly where it has always been. |
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08/26/2015 06:48:09 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by hahn23:
Originally posted by PapaBob:
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Yes, and the airport that helped him rise to fame was way over budget and had so many issues when it opened. The state of the art baggage system was finally scrapped because it was such a failure. The sad thing is that it never seemed to hurt his political standings. |
For anyone living in Denver, it is helpful to be aware of the unique conspiracy theories surrounding DIA. Maybe $2 billion over budget was a bargain for what it really is. |
I was avoiding the conspiracy theories but yes it would explain a lot! |
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08/26/2015 06:10:17 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by PapaBob:
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Yes, and the airport that helped him rise to fame was way over budget and had so many issues when it opened. The state of the art baggage system was finally scrapped because it was such a failure. The sad thing is that it never seemed to hurt his political standings. |
For anyone living in Denver, it is helpful to be aware of the unique conspiracy theories surrounding DIA. Maybe $2 billion over budget was a bargain for what it really is. |
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08/26/2015 05:43:16 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by Ann:
Originally posted by EstimatedEyes:
Originally posted by Ann:
Originally posted by PapaBob:
the Mayor went on to be the national transportation secretary, pretty ironic |
True dat! |
That wasn't til around '95 right? Pena? Think he got there on the back of that shiny new be-tented airport out on the plains, when everyone was well greased and forgot what happend back in '82 :) |
Yes, Pena was named transportation secretary in the 90's primarily on the basis of spending the last half of the '80's getting that ginormous airport 50 miles from town built (I hate that airport). But he originally won the '83 mayoral election on the back of the McNichols administration's mismanagement of snow removal in early '83. |
Yes, and the airport that helped him rise to fame was way over budget and had so many issues when it opened. The state of the art baggage system was finally scrapped because it was such a failure. The sad thing is that it never seemed to hurt his political standings. |
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08/26/2015 12:26:09 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by EstimatedEyes:
Originally posted by Ann:
Originally posted by PapaBob:
the Mayor went on to be the national transportation secretary, pretty ironic |
True dat! |
That wasn't til around '95 right? Pena? Think he got there on the back of that shiny new be-tented airport out on the plains, when everyone was well greased and forgot what happend back in '82 :) |
Yes, Pena was named transportation secretary in the 90's primarily on the basis of spending the last half of the '80's getting that ginormous airport 50 miles from town built (I hate that airport). But he originally won the '83 mayoral election on the back of the McNichols administration's mismanagement of snow removal in early '83. |
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08/25/2015 11:25:59 PM · #15 |
I have to jump in on the winter driving topic. BUY WINTER TIRES. I live in northwestern ontario. It's a 7 hour drive north of minneapolis, we will have snow stay on the ground from November to April. I have driven a 99 acura TL the last 6 years with winter tires. I can make it to work in 2 ft of snow. I will pass 4x4 SUVs that are stuck in the snow because of using all season tires. Good snow tires are around $1500, but definatley worth it.
4x4 vehicles will help you accelarate in the snow, but gives you a false sense of control. You will not steer or stop better. But they are great if you know how to drive one.
My 2 cents. |
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08/25/2015 05:18:58 PM · #16 |
I was only there for #7 -- 21.9 inches on October 24-25, 1997, but I'm glad that one made the list. We had just bought a house in Evergreen, and literally moved in a week or so before the storm. The house was near Bear Mountain, 8,500 feet up, and at the end of a winding dirt road. Started to snow and never stopped, and when the sun came out we were stranded for about 2 or 3 days until the plows even reached us. Power was out for a day or so, and we had food, but not a lot. At least we were on a well and had a big propane tank or we would have been SOL. For Xmas that year, our friends gave us a giant box of powdered milk (like 4x4 giant), with a card that said "Be Prepared." :-)
Originally posted by Ann:
Originally posted by PapaBob:
the Mayor went on to be the national transportation secretary, pretty ironic |
True dat! |
That wasn't til around '95 right? Pena? Think he got there on the back of that shiny new be-tented airport out on the plains, when everyone was well greased and forgot what happend back in '82 :) |
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08/25/2015 12:26:29 AM · #17 |
Unable to leave well enough alone, I looked up the person who was making such appointments in 1982 1995.
Google is a wonderful thing.
Message edited by author 2015-08-26 17:01:43. |
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08/24/2015 10:00:56 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by PapaBob:
the Mayor went on to be the national transportation secretary, pretty ironic |
True dat! |
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08/24/2015 05:06:43 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by Ann:
Originally posted by PapaBob:
The Christmas Eve 1982 was the one I remember most, spent the day up in Pine Jnction with family, they tried to get us to stay over but we had a young Lab that we had to get home to take care of. Made it all the way to my driveway and slammed the car into a drift to get the car out of the roadway. Went inside to find the dog had punctured the water bed (back then they were popular) and water was leaking into the lower level. Spent a long night cleaning up the mess, |
I remember that one well. I went to my parents' for Christmas, and got stuck there until it stopped snowing a day later. The next day the temperature dropped to -25, and stayed there for the next 3 weeks. At the time, the city didn't plow the side streets, preferring to let things melt (which had always worked before). After a few days of nothing melting, they decided the best plan of action was to run garbage trucks up and down all of the side streets to pack things down. Which turned them all to solid ice. I couldn't walk on the street in front of my apartment. I was in college and didn't have a car at the time, so spent many hours standing in -25 weather, waiting for buses that didn't come because of the road conditions.
The following May, the mayor, who had been the mayor for 15 years and had, until that point, an impenetrable political machine, was defeated on a snow removal platform. The next mayor spent millions on snowplows and snowstorm planning. |
And the Mayor went on to be the national transportation secretary, pretty ironic |
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08/24/2015 04:24:19 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by PapaBob:
The Christmas Eve 1982 was the one I remember most, spent the day up in Pine Jnction with family, they tried to get us to stay over but we had a young Lab that we had to get home to take care of. Made it all the way to my driveway and slammed the car into a drift to get the car out of the roadway. Went inside to find the dog had punctured the water bed (back then they were popular) and water was leaking into the lower level. Spent a long night cleaning up the mess, |
I remember that one well. I went to my parents' for Christmas, and got stuck there until it stopped snowing a day later. The next day the temperature dropped to -25, and stayed there for the next 3 weeks. At the time, the city didn't plow the side streets, preferring to let things melt (which had always worked before). After a few days of nothing melting, they decided the best plan of action was to run garbage trucks up and down all of the side streets to pack things down. Which turned them all to solid ice. I couldn't walk on the street in front of my apartment. I was in college and didn't have a car at the time, so spent many hours standing in -25 weather, waiting for buses that didn't come because of the road conditions.
The following May, the mayor, who had been the mayor for 15 years and had, until that point, an impenetrable political machine, was defeated on a snow removal platform. The next mayor spent millions on snowplows and snowstorm planning. |
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08/24/2015 03:45:40 PM · #21 |
| The Christmas Eve 1982 was the one I remember most, spent the day up in Pine Jnction with family, they tried to get us to stay over but we had a young Lab that we had to get home to take care of. Made it all the way to my driveway and slammed the car into a drift to get the car out of the roadway. Went inside to find the dog had punctured the water bed (back then they were popular) and water was leaking into the lower level. Spent a long night cleaning up the mess, |
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08/24/2015 03:08:34 PM · #22 |
Ah, yes, I lived through a few of those. It was the March 1983 storm where my brother and I went skiing during the day, and there was a freak storm while we were up the hill that only affected the lowlands. It was then that I discovered that a 1977 VW Rabbit can drive in 18" of snow just fine. The whole way home, the snow kept getting deeper, and we were expecting to have to abandon the car and walk. But we got all the way home, pushing snow up and over the hood for the half mile.
It was just my brother and I, and a few trucks and snowplows out on the road. Everyone else was at home drinking hot chocolate (or just drinking) by then. Our biggest problem was that we had planned to go out to dinner, and nothing was open.
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08/24/2015 08:24:02 AM · #23 |
Originally posted by hahn23:
Originally posted by Ann:
Denver isn't the mountains. Or the foothills. ... |
Lost in the averages are the occasional big ones. Because of the number of cars and people in Denver, the heavy storms paralyze the city. Only a problem for those who choose to drive in the city during these (thankfully) rare events.
A LIST of Colorado’s historic blizzards and snowstorms |
And when those big storms hit they shut everything down and ask people With non essential jobs not to drive........ |
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08/23/2015 10:47:48 AM · #24 |
Originally posted by Ann:
Denver isn't the mountains. Or the foothills. ... |
Lost in the averages are the occasional big ones. Because of the number of cars and people in Denver, the heavy storms paralyze the city. Only a problem for those who choose to drive in the city during these (thankfully) rare events.
A LIST of Colorado’s historic blizzards and snowstorms |
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08/23/2015 09:34:16 AM · #25 |
She actually considered no car but wants to get a feel for the city first, you know find things. IMHO I don't think it would be wise as 2/3 times a wk (this week 5 days) she is closing. Which means 2-4 am - riding transit systems in the wee hours of the morning in a city she's never been in. Personally I'm not to keen on that...mother radar is up n humming!!!
It appears she is going to live in Lakewood area. It's about 13 miles from work so at this point she will be driving to n from wk. she does have good snow/rain tires so she should be good to go. And she's become a more cautious driver in recent years. Yea!!
Thank you again for your advice...
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