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 04/02/2015 02:20:18 PM · #1
One down.
 03/31/2015 05:08:49 PM · #2
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Probably more foolishness, I'd wager...


...or a continuance of the same foolishness.

Ray
 03/31/2015 03:29:49 PM · #3
Probably more foolishness, I'd wager...
 03/31/2015 02:28:44 PM · #4
Tomorrow is April 1st, I wonder if it will bring anything different.
 03/26/2015 12:57:14 PM · #5
Originally posted by Mike:
Originally posted by nygold:
We already had a slight breach in security looks like a perp snuck in and snuck out.
Slick but not slick enough.


that depends on the nature of the ban.


I guess but now we also know atleast one of them is reading this crap.
 03/26/2015 12:39:29 PM · #6
Originally posted by nygold:
We already had a slight breach in security looks like a perp snuck in and snuck out.
Slick but not slick enough.


that depends on the nature of the ban.
 03/26/2015 11:04:44 AM · #7
We already had a slight breach in security looks like a perp snuck in and snuck out.
Slick but not slick enough.
 03/26/2015 10:32:53 AM · #8
Originally posted by nygold:
If they can't get along then maybe this sandbox is too small.


Only if they can't manage to avoid each other to some degree. (Or of course, get along, but I think that's unlikely)..

The fact is that SC will eventually ban one of them if they don't behave themselves here. As for what they do in their personal lives? It's really none of our business.

03/26/2015 10:22:54 AM · #9
If they can't get along then maybe this sandbox is too small.
 03/26/2015 09:24:55 AM · #10
Originally posted by Mike:
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by Mike:
I'm not sure a public apology is needed. If the victim is aware and wants one they should get it. In private.

If I were the victim and knew who the culprit was and they knew I knew and I never got an apology, I'd be hard pressed to not foster animosity toward them. If the culprit was truly remorseful they owe it to the victim to apologize. It's also of no concern to the rest of us. The pubic wasn't the target and the public isn't owed an apology.

edited as noted


I know there was a preexisting issue between these two people, where there seems to already have been plenty of animosity going both directions, and you think that a private apology here is going to fix it? Are you being serious?


oh I'm sorry, i didn't realize i was only giving my opinion. I'm also not privy to the inside info on the matter that others, outside of SC, apparently have :P

ETA - peace offerings, especially remorseful ones, are always a bad idea, not sure what i was thinking.

ETA2 - Im sorry.


I know very little myself, outside of a few comments made in private.. What I do know is that there was some pre-existing issue that caused this, (and even if I didn't know that it'd be pretty darn obvious, given the context). The fact is that this will almost certainly only deepen the conflict, at least if my understanding of human behavior and history are any sort of reliable guide. No idea what you mean by "I didn't realize I was only giving my opinion", but that seems a very odd thing to say. As for the ETA, they're not always a bad idea, but when it's an ongoing feud, they are very unlikely to fix the issue. Mostly in cases like that I think the only solution is to avoid interaction, there are 7 billion people on the planet, no reason to play nice with anyone I've found myself to strongly dislike.

ETA: I expect any apology would be about as sincere as you are here when you say "I'm sorry"...

Message edited by author 2015-03-26 09:26:00.
 03/26/2015 09:18:55 AM · #11
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by Mike:
I'm not sure a public apology is needed. If the victim is aware and wants one they should get it. In private.

If I were the victim and knew who the culprit was and they knew I knew and I never got an apology, I'd be hard pressed to not foster animosity toward them. If the culprit was truly remorseful they owe it to the victim to apologize. It's also of no concern to the rest of us. The pubic wasn't the target and the public isn't owed an apology.

edited as noted


I know there was a preexisting issue between these two people, where there seems to already have been plenty of animosity going both directions, and you think that a private apology here is going to fix it? Are you being serious?

Airing their dirty laundry publicly certainly won't fix it. Who cares? The SC is monitoring that no future voting issues result from their personal spat and that's that as far as this site should be concerned.
 03/26/2015 09:01:18 AM · #12
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by Mike:
I'm not sure a public apology is needed. If the victim is aware and wants one they should get it. In private.

If I were the victim and knew who the culprit was and they knew I knew and I never got an apology, I'd be hard pressed to not foster animosity toward them. If the culprit was truly remorseful they owe it to the victim to apologize. It's also of no concern to the rest of us. The pubic wasn't the target and the public isn't owed an apology.

edited as noted


I know there was a preexisting issue between these two people, where there seems to already have been plenty of animosity going both directions, and you think that a private apology here is going to fix it? Are you being serious?


oh I'm sorry, i didn't realize i was only giving my opinion. I'm also not privy to the inside info on the matter that others, outside of SC, apparently have :P

ETA - peace offerings, especially remorseful ones, are always a bad idea, not sure what i was thinking.

ETA2 - Im sorry.

Message edited by author 2015-03-26 09:04:29.
 03/26/2015 08:59:21 AM · #13
Originally posted by Mike:
I'm not sure a public apology is needed. If the victim is aware and wants one they should get it. In private.

If I were the victim and knew who the culprit was and they knew I knew and I never got an apology, I'd be hard pressed to not foster animosity toward them. If the culprit was truly remorseful they owe it to the victim to apologize. It's also of no concern to the rest of us. The pubic wasn't the target and the public isn't owed an apology.

edited as noted


I know there was a preexisting issue between these two people, where there seems to already have been plenty of animosity going both directions, and you think that a private apology here is going to fix it? Are you being serious?
 03/26/2015 08:08:26 AM · #14
I found this on the net just incase anyone might want it.
They can cut and paste it, it should cover just about everything.

Dear {Recipient}

Please allow me to apologize for what I {said, did, etc…} on {day of week}. My behavior was extremely inappropriate, immature, and lacked the respect {you, organization} deserved. It was a disruption and distracted others from {doing their job, learning, etc…}.

It was embarrassing, but I learned that nobody appreciated my poor behavior. In the future, I have every intention of curbing my thoughtless actions and learn to adjust my behavior befitting the environment and situation.

Again, I am sorry for my actions and I hope that we can put this matter behind us. I look forward to {working, learning from, etc…} you {again/soon}. If you have any thoughts in this, please feel free to share. You may contact me at your convenience at {email/phone}.

Sincerely,
{Sender Name}
03/26/2015 07:26:49 AM · #15
I'm not sure a public apology is needed. If the victim is aware and wants one they should get it. In private.

If I were the victim and knew who the culprit was and they knew I knew and I never got an apology, I'd be hard pressed to not foster animosity toward them. If the culprit was truly remorseful they owe it to the victim to apologize. It's also of no concern to the rest of us. The pubic wasn't the target and the public isn't owed an apology.

edited as noted

Message edited by author 2015-03-26 08:50:03.
 03/26/2015 06:42:47 AM · #16
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Is this victim remotely as concerned as so many here are, or have they merely been happy the problem has been solved and moved on?


They are concerned and they would like an apology and a reason.
 03/26/2015 04:25:58 AM · #17
Is this victim remotely as concerned as so many here are, or have they merely been happy the problem has been solved and moved on?
 03/26/2015 02:12:40 AM · #18
To position things as they stand so far:

The victim knows who she or he is. SC knows who the culprit is and the culprit knows who he or she is. The judges, culprit and victim are in the same room and the victim is simply waiting for an apology and perhaps an explanation, the judges because of some form of rigidty or pride are not allowing this to happen, it certainty isn't justice that's stopping them.

SC knows now that the victim knows, this is surely to be taken into consideration.

Message edited by author 2015-03-26 02:36:44.
 03/25/2015 09:40:22 PM · #19
Originally posted by PennyStreet:
An apology would soften the blow...

Once again you make the case for maintaining anonymity. It is not your job to ensure sufficient public remorse. EVERYONE here is to be treated with equal respect and consideration. It is a fundamental requirement of DPC's terms of service, and no apology is necessary to be treated as an equal participant on this site. Anyone who returns from a suspension does so as a member of this community in good standing, and the implication that he or she must do anything more to earn that respect and consideration or risk a "blow" is a reflection of the site's integrity, not theirs.

Message edited by author 2015-03-25 21:45:51.
 03/25/2015 09:33:34 PM · #20
Don't snap at the victims for being upset.
03/25/2015 09:31:56 PM · #21
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Originally posted by nygold:
It's been so peaceful without the cheater cheaters around.
I hope it stays like this after the quiet return that know one is supposed to know about.


When one keeps stoking the fire, the embers will glow till the very end.

Ray


Seems people are still a bit hot.
03/25/2015 09:30:45 PM · #22
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by nygold:
It's been so peaceful without the cheater cheaters around.
I hope it stays like this after the quiet return that know one is supposed to know about.


Ok, my last response was seen as fueling speculation, so instead of using the kid gloves I'll just be direct.

That seems like a really stupid thing to say, explain how one person who was downvoting one other person was disrupting the peace, and also how the person who downvoted everyone in one challenge was disturbing the peace.

I'll be impressed if anything more complex than "Derp" comes out of you on this.


A lot less drama. !!!DERP!!! Derpy squid...
 03/25/2015 09:04:36 PM · #23
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by PennyStreet:
If this person(s) expects to return, an apology might be wise. Enough said.

Or else ... what?

Thank you for justifying our policy so clearly ...


If the person(s) returns I think it's likely that it will come out who they are. An apology would soften the blow, I think, assuming it's handled well.
 03/25/2015 08:56:56 PM · #24
Originally posted by PennyStreet:
If this person(s) expects to return, an apology might be wise. Enough said.

Or else ... what?

Thank you for justifying our policy so clearly ...
 03/25/2015 08:27:16 PM · #25
If this person(s) expects to return, an apology might be wise. Enough said.
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