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Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

08/30/2004 12:45:09 AM · #6

If it was your comment that started it..then I appoligize if this offended ya. It was no way personally directed towards you. It just seems that you will get picked apart no matter what ya do, so I am learning to just take all the comments to heart, and weather or not I agree, I learn what people like on DPC. It just makes me more aware! I appologize if it offended you!

jgal76

Nikon D70

08/30/2004 12:37:45 AM · #7

Well, now that it seems this thread was started due to my comment, as I assumed, I'll share my thoughts on the topic. First off...what makes you think I didn't look at the photo? I did, and even commented that I liked it. Also, I'm not sure why you would be upset about someone 'complaining' about the title? I take the comment box to be a place where we can leave comments to possibly help the photographer among other things. Now you know that one person out there doesn't like the title, and you can take that into consideration and change it if you like, or not if you don't.

In terms of scoring, I may subconsiously deduct a point at most if the title really turns me off, but it doesn't factor in heavily to my scoring. For the record..I gave you a 7.

Originally posted by parrothead:

Wow people get more nit-picky each day! I stopped the borders! G@d forbid that you use a border on a picture....but now complaints on the title???? PLEASE....look at the photo!

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

08/25/2004 10:57:43 PM · #8

That was ornate! WOW what a description! Thank you I think???

Dr.Confuser

Nikon D800

08/25/2004 06:58:47 PM · #9

Originally posted by zeuszen:

Minimal borders (those similar to the one employed on this site by default) can be very useful to help distinguish a high key space from the surrounding page without creating any distraction. Some photographers include a moderate white or negative space inside such a border to further separate the image from those distractions of the page they have no control over.

Excessively ornate borders, the use of lurid colours and effects outside of the image tend to draw attention to themselves, if not to the photographer him/herself. I have no doubt that there are people who'd consider this inappropiate, if not hideous. On very rare occasions, such 'decorum' may be quite appropiate - i.e. distraction as irony, persiflage etc. Considering the difficulty in extending an already 'hideous' image beyond its own confines by creating another one around the enigma, I'd deem the chances of anyone selecting such a photo (if then it can still be called a photo) as a favourite as equally rare.

And yes, I agree, let's look at the photo, but let's also make it easy for anyone to do just this.

I love your photography, but I had to pull out the dictionary 3 times to read what you wrote. Having done that, I agree!

photom

Nikon D200

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

08/25/2004 05:16:30 PM · #10

Originally posted by ccasey:

I agree with RedOak--i.e., the title is not important. The title should not make the photo make sense for the challenge. The photo alone should make sense for the challenge.

For those that think Title or border doesn't matter. Just for argument's sake....

It the Challenge was a) "Portraits" and the Title for this image was "Drag Queen" or b) "Railroads" and the title was "Traveling Bum"
How would this do?

Mona

Message edited by author 2004-08-25 17:18:05.

Node

Nikon D300

Tamron SP AF 17-35mm f/2.8-4 Di LD Aspherical IF for Nikon

08/25/2004 05:09:09 PM · #11

Originally posted by parrothead:

John your work is wonderful, and would be if it had a title or not. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but a title is irrelivant with good work. It will still be a great work named "jpg1" But I do admire your work and passion for a great visual!

Here is where you hit the nail on the head "Everyone is entitled to an opinion" you need to be able to accept that others differs to yours and move on.

The voting and comments come from various opinions and that is the great part of this site. We do not restrict who can do what when we like it!

Kekiinani

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L USM

08/25/2004 05:08:39 PM · #12

Since I am new to this site, I was wondering if someone could tell me how to view the entries on the this new challenge? I can not seem to find anyway to "Look at the Photo". Sorry for the not so bright question but I just had to ask. I just think this site is terrific!!!

kiwiness

Canon Canon 1d x Mark II

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

08/25/2004 04:57:38 PM · #13

Originally posted by parrothead:

I disagree. Even if a photo speaks for itself, a title gives it that extra spice, especially a well thought out title.

jmsetzler

Sony Alpha a6000

Sony 16-50mm f/3.5-5.6 E-mount

08/25/2004 04:46:06 PM · #14

The image itself may be good regardless of the title, but I think a poor title will degrade the overall presentation.....

jmsetzler

Sony Alpha a6000

Sony 16-50mm f/3.5-5.6 E-mount

08/25/2004 04:44:53 PM · #15

Originally posted by parrothead:

Once again, I'm sorry, but I disagree. I feel that the title is important. I would consider jpg1 as 'untitled' unless I believed the photographer intentionally name the image with it. I can differentiate between file names and photo titles.

Canon EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM

08/25/2004 04:42:11 PM · #16

Stagolee

Kodak Easyshare C180

Canon EF 50mm f1.2L

08/25/2004 04:40:49 PM · #17

If you think your entry says everything you could title it untitled.

dsa157

Canon EOS-50D

08/25/2004 04:38:36 PM · #18

Originally posted by zeuszen:

On very rare occasions, such 'decorum' may be quite appropiate - i.e. distraction as irony, persiflage etc.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm damned impressed that zeuszen knows a word like persiflage. I had to run off to dictionary.com for that one... :)

Dave

scalvert

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

08/25/2004 04:32:14 PM · #19

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Acutally, the title of "The Mona Lisa" is La Giaconda.

Gesundheit!

jmsetzler

Sony Alpha a6000

Sony 16-50mm f/3.5-5.6 E-mount

08/25/2004 04:31:42 PM · #20

Originally posted by parrothead:

Wow people get more nit-picky each day! I stopped the borders! G@d forbid that you use a border on a picture....but now complaints on the title???? PLEASE....look at the photo!

Bad titles ruin good photos... sorry but that is the way I feel. It's part of the presentation and should be taken seriously :)

ccasey

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

08/25/2004 04:29:47 PM · #21

I agree with RedOak--i.e., the title is not important. The title should not make the photo make sense for the challenge. The photo alone should make sense for the challenge.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

08/25/2004 04:09:46 PM · #22

Originally posted by nico_blue:

sometimes the title is important as well... the Mona Lisa is the Mona Lisa not 'the woman who paid me lots of money to paint her portrait'

Acutally, the title of "The Mona Lisa" is La Giaconda.

RedOak

Canon EOS-20D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

08/25/2004 04:03:07 PM · #23

When voting, i my criterias are as follow: Theme; Photography; Proper Finishing work/touch.

They are in no particuliar order, but are all very important to me. The Title is not important. In fact, when i look at the picture, if the picture doesn't relate to the Theme "without" reading the title, it looses points for that.

Of course that's just my way of critics... but i believe that the best and most touching and wonderful pictures in history, do not have titles, or do not "Need" a title to impress. By the simple effect of looking at it evokes emotions, which in turn, is a success from the artist, as he/she properly displayed and conveyed an emotion from the art to the person.

OVerall, i think this is very important. I guess its wierd to say, but let's not forget that this is a photography website. So photography is VERY important...

That's my newb's 2cent on the subject.

Pidd

08/25/2004 03:52:40 PM · #24

I hate to sound cynical, but for this challenge in particular, the title is very important for many of the entries. How else are they going to fit their entry into the theme but by a clever title that shoehorns it in? Badly.

A recurring and annoying trend, methinks.