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01/07/2012 09:25:35 PM · #4

Originally posted by ambaker:

Originally posted by leaf:

Originally posted by spiritualspatula:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Being a Nikon ignoramus and all, is this a FF camera or cropped? It's not immediately obvious from the copy...

R.

FX.

ETA: Anybody else find face recognition weird?

I don't think it can recognize your Uncle Joe from Uncle Gerald, but it would be able to recognize Uncle Joe from his birthday cake... helping you obtain focus.

My Lumix ZS-10 has face recognition. You can teach it who uncle Fred is. Or at least so it says. I don't see a real use for it. Supposedly it's a feature for tagging people for Facebook, etc. Seems pretty pointless to me. It also detects faces for assigning focusing points. Which does work pretty well.

all joking aside ..this is a great feature in combination with the lock ,for sports .. camera will lock on a face (or part of the face, like eye) of a person and even if they get out of the frame than get back in within a second or so camera will know its the subject and focus on him...

ambaker

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L USM

01/07/2012 09:09:31 PM · #5

Originally posted by leaf:

Originally posted by spiritualspatula:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Being a Nikon ignoramus and all, is this a FF camera or cropped? It's not immediately obvious from the copy...

R.

FX.

ETA: Anybody else find face recognition weird?

I don't think it can recognize your Uncle Joe from Uncle Gerald, but it would be able to recognize Uncle Joe from his birthday cake... helping you obtain focus.

My Lumix ZS-10 has face recognition. You can teach it who uncle Fred is. Or at least so it says. I don't see a real use for it. Supposedly it's a feature for tagging people for Facebook, etc. Seems pretty pointless to me. It also detects faces for assigning focusing points. Which does work pretty well.

Morgan

Nikon D800

Nikon AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 28-70mm f/2.8D IF-ED

01/07/2012 05:28:13 PM · #6

The specifications are very disappointing. Other than the video aspect, what is the benefit over the D3? I guess I will need to wait for the rumoured D800 or the D4x in order to get higher resolution.

Drake

Nikon D850

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8 VR DG IF-ED

01/07/2012 03:14:03 PM · #7

B&H has it now listed at $5,999 USD

//www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/838794-REG/Nikon_25482_D4_Digital_SLR_Camera.html

01/07/2012 03:02:19 PM · #8

Originally posted by Basta:

D4 video ....//vimeo.com/34666308

thanks, great video.

Basta

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 28-300mm f3.5-5.6G ED VR

01/07/2012 08:18:40 AM · #9

D4 video ....//vimeo.com/34666308

NikonJeb

Nikon D850

01/07/2012 07:36:57 AM · #10

Nikon D4 B&H $5995.00

01/07/2012 05:54:51 AM · #11

Jared Polen has also done the sniff test...

//www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jT0Pb5SNXmU

Message edited by author 2012-01-07 05:55:00.

MattO

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II

01/06/2012 09:54:39 AM · #12

Originally posted by spiritualspatula:

Originally posted by MattO:

Originally posted by spiritualspatula:

Originally posted by MattO:
Street price is $6000 quite a bit less then the new 1DX. It's not enough of an update for me to move my D3s for though.

An ad for the D4.

How do you get $6000?

5800 euro= 7,417.57 USD...

The street price in the US has no straight reference to prices abroad. My Nikon rep told me street price was going to be $6k. I can only assume he isn't full of it.

Gotcha- I just thought you were going off what the ad said since you said what the price was and then linked the ad.

ETA: The mpix rating is good news on my side- there was speculation the D800 would have some ungodly horrendous amount, and this makes me renew my hope that it won't be some ridiculous number.

I'd say my rep was right on with the price. I'll have to rememember he shot me straight when it comes to spending my $$$.

Matt

bohemka

Nikon D700

Sigma 12-24mm f/4.5-5.6 EX Aspherical DG HSM for Nikon

01/06/2012 07:50:14 AM · #13

Originally posted by spiritualspatula:

I agree with where you're coming from, but imagine yourself now shooting Fabio (with a camera) on a beach. You're holding a 10fps monster and you are firing away, getting all of the dynamic glory that is Fabio, and of course Fabio's wind-tossed hair. Your feet shuffle this way and that, because he's just got that many good angles.

As you move about and change the orientation of the camera, it would be pretty sweet if it continued to lock in on Fabio's face without you having to do anything.

Doesn't mean much to those of us who mainly shoot landscapes, but as an environmental portrait photographer, street photographer or model photographer, I can see the value.

The features that are interesting to me are the illuminated buttons, the two-axis horizon line feature, and the in-camera HDR has some fun possibilities. Also, did I read correctly that with live view you can see the histogram before you shoot?

Tommy_Mac

Nikon D800

Nikon AF Nikkor 85mm f/1.4D IF

01/06/2012 07:50:11 AM · #14

Joe McNally on shooting with the new D4.
Man I don't know who I want to be more when I grow up...Joe or Anthony Bourdain!!

TonyT

Nikon D3X

01/06/2012 06:58:01 AM · #15

I got an email from B&H this morning. It looks like $6000.

B&H - Nikon D4

Sorry, missed previous post on this.

Message edited by author 2012-01-06 06:59:24.

01/06/2012 06:19:57 AM · #16

I admittedly don't know all the features of a Canon, but I always keep my camera set so that I can float the point of focus and exposure. it's so easy that even my girlfriend knows how to use it and if somebody else is shooting a photo, all I need to say is "put the square on somebody's face using the adjust pad."
Having used some P&S with face recognition, I find this sorta dubious, and particularly, if you are purchasing a D4 and fail to understand DoF and which subject to choose to focus on, I can't help but saying you should not have bought a D4. If you need face recognition, get a Coolpix. The D4 is specifically designed for professionals. The 1D series hasn't had any of this BS, nor should it. It's a professional series of bodies. Does a Hasselblad H4D-40 have face recognition? No. It' stupid to.
Putting it in a body of that sort adds unnecessary cost and is pointless, IMO. As the earlier joke goes, lets put a fireworks mode on the 5D mkIII ::rolls eyes::

01/06/2012 05:09:34 AM · #17

Originally posted by spiritualspatula:

Originally posted by bohemka:
Don't be such a buzz-kill, Derek. It also has fireworks and pets settings.

If the dial on the top left has a barking dog, I'm not sure what I'd do. Either buy it for the sake of irony or lose faith in professional photography ;)

lol, OK, ok I was thinking since you thought it was weird it was because of some other strange reason. Point taken.

I am in two camps on this one. As far as a piece of equipment thinking it knows better than me, I can get very frustrated with that (Microsoft Word anyone). When shooting lifestyle portraits however I find myself just using center focus and re-framing after focusing the camera. This gets to be a lot of irritating camera movement, especially if the camera is on a tripod. Sure, I could use the focus points to select one on the face but if you switch the camera from vertical to horizontal or recompose the picture having the person on the left / right etc, then choosing new focus points is also a lot of work. Having a camera find the face to lock in focus wouldn't be a useless feature IMO.

Sigma 12-24mm f/4.5-5.6 EX Aspherical DG HSM for Nikon

01/06/2012 03:50:17 AM · #18

Originally posted by bohemka:

Don't be such a buzz-kill, Derek. It also has fireworks and pets settings.

If the dial on the top left has a barking dog, I'm not sure what I'd do. Either buy it for the sake of irony or lose faith in professional photography ;)

bohemka

Nikon D700

01/06/2012 03:46:49 AM · #19

Don't be such a buzz-kill, Derek. It also has fireworks and pets settings.

01/06/2012 03:37:42 AM · #20

I know how face recognition works. And if you're using a rig like a D4, I'd hope you don't need the camera to try and tell you where to focus. That seems like one more annoying thing to subvert in practice. Who buys a pro body and expects it to find faces? That's absurd.

Nikon AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 28-70mm f/2.8D IF-ED

01/06/2012 03:12:30 AM · #21

Originally posted by spiritualspatula:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Being a Nikon ignoramus and all, is this a FF camera or cropped? It's not immediately obvious from the copy...

R.

FX.

ETA: Anybody else find face recognition weird?

I don't think it can recognize your Uncle Joe from Uncle Gerald, but it would be able to recognize Uncle Joe from his birthday cake... helping you obtain focus.

caba

Nikon D800

01/06/2012 02:43:04 AM · #22

B and Hconfirmed
//www.bhphotovideo.com/indepth/nikon/announcements/new-nikon-d4-pro-dslr-camera

Message edited by author 2012-01-06 02:43:42.

01/06/2012 12:33:34 AM · #23

Originally posted by MattO:

I can't in good reasoning think they will shove 36MP which is what was rumored onto the D800. That would put a huge damper(assuming they were good pixels) on the sale of the D3x. I don't think Nikon is stupid enough to do that.

At any rate, when I can shoot up to 12,800 with very good results, I don't do video and in a pinch I can shoot 25,600 ISO for newsprint. I don't see a D4 in my future. I might move my D3 for another D3s. But 12MP is plenty and 4 more won't make that big of a difference to me. The largest print I sell is 20x30 and I have no issues with doing that with 12MP now.

Exactly. I saw the "specs" and couldn't help but scoffing at them, but then I started to wonder if Nikon was trying to really play in the mpix race. The average photog can shoot plenty big with current resolutions native, and then enlargement works well enough these days that you can certainly do that too. It didn't make sense to me either, so far as the competing bodies goes, I'm glad I'm not alone in finding that odd.

MattO

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II

01/06/2012 12:00:57 AM · #24

Originally posted by spiritualspatula: