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12/12/2011 07:44:04 PM · #1
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by o2bskating:

did they ip ban you or just delete your account. i'd just make a new account it'll take that other jackass a while to find you haha.


They re-opened my account after quite a bit of harassment on my part.

ooh congrats!!!
12/12/2011 02:42:41 PM · #2
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

I respect your opinion.


Just not other people...unless they're like you.


Give it a rest spaz.


Why?

Are you giving up your homophobia?
12/12/2011 02:33:43 PM · #3
Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

I respect your opinion.


Just not other people...unless they're like you.


Give it a rest spaz.
12/12/2011 01:37:27 PM · #4
Originally posted by o2bskating:

did they ip ban you or just delete your account. i'd just make a new account it'll take that other jackass a while to find you haha.


They re-opened my account after quite a bit of harassment on my part.
12/12/2011 01:25:43 PM · #5
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

I respect your opinion.


Just not other people...unless they're like you.
12/12/2011 12:53:42 PM · #6
I'll send you a pm Fritz. I respect your opinion.
12/12/2011 12:34:53 PM · #7
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

I think an excellent example for Christians to emulate is when the woman caught in adultery was brought to Jesus. After his famous "Let anyone of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her." and the people had left he has this exchange with her:

"Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?"
"No one, sir." she said.
"Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."

It's like that.


How the heck did this thread get this far afield, LOL? It went off the road, down the embankment, through the ditch and now it's being dragged through the mud.

Jason, you know that I like and respect you, but this attitude is nothing short of condescending and narrow-minded. What you're saying, in essence, is that homosexuals are something less than others. You apparently bear them no malice, but in the same breath you entreat them to "leave your life of sin"? Sin in who's eyes?
I'm sorry, but I'm tired of seeing my gay friends denied their rights and treated as if they are somehow defective, based on a religious position. We are *supposed* to be a society where all religions (or the absence thereof) are treated equally, however some seem to believe it is their right to push a fundamentalist Christian viewpoint on everyone, and in this case to use it to promote homophobia. I'm not buying it.
12/12/2011 12:21:24 PM · #8
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

I think an excellent example for Christians to emulate is when the woman caught in adultery was brought to Jesus. After his famous "Let anyone of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her." and the people had left he has this exchange with her:

"Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?"
"No one, sir." she said.
"Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."

It's like that.


If only it were really like that.
12/12/2011 12:03:14 PM · #9
I think an excellent example for Christians to emulate is when the woman caught in adultery was brought to Jesus. After his famous "Let anyone of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her." and the people had left he has this exchange with her:

"Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?"
"No one, sir." she said.
"Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."

It's like that.
12/12/2011 10:46:29 AM · #10
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

That makes me feel a bit better Leroy. I knew you were a sensible guy even if I don't quite go along with your genre of photography. :)

Spork, I just don't buy the argument that says "paul's word is so vague, this word is better. Oh wait, well this word is vague as well..."


but not as vague.

In any event, claiming that that particular passage is where the bible calls out homosexuality as a sin just isn't the case. You can choose to interpret it that way and use that to justify your homophobia, but it's anything but definitive.


Whatever floats your boat Spaz. You seem as sure of the interpretation as anybody else...


Nope, I don't really care. I know that Jesus' message was to love your fellow man. Son of God or not, that's enough for me. The rest is just picking the flypoop from the pepper.

It's the use of his message to spread messages of hate like the homophobia that gets shouted from pulpits across the world that turns me and many others away. If that's the kind of thing that makes you feel good, you can have it. You want to shout, "God damns homosexuality!" as if those very words were written by the hand of God in stone tablets, but it's far removed from that certainty.
12/10/2011 10:21:07 PM · #11
did they ip ban you or just delete your account. i'd just make a new account it'll take that other jackass a while to find you haha.
12/10/2011 09:50:23 PM · #12
Hey, this wasn't supposed to be a discussion on the morality of girl-girl love... it supposed to be all about Facebook being butt-nuggets... focus people - focus. :-)
12/10/2011 05:38:04 PM · #13
Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

That makes me feel a bit better Leroy. I knew you were a sensible guy even if I don't quite go along with your genre of photography. :)

Spork, I just don't buy the argument that says "paul's word is so vague, this word is better. Oh wait, well this word is vague as well..."


but not as vague.

In any event, claiming that that particular passage is where the bible calls out homosexuality as a sin just isn't the case. You can choose to interpret it that way and use that to justify your homophobia, but it's anything but definitive.


Whatever floats your boat Spaz. You seem as sure of the interpretation as anybody else...
12/10/2011 04:55:55 PM · #14
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by kirbic:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by o2bskating:

well ya know turn about is fair play

but two wrongs don't make a right ...


...but three lefts do!


Often, I seem to be taking that fourth left and ending up where I started.


ooh is that what i'm doing wrong......sigh
12/10/2011 04:17:39 PM · #15
Originally posted by kirbic:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by o2bskating:

well ya know turn about is fair play

but two wrongs don't make a right ...


...but three lefts do!


Often, I seem to be taking that fourth left and ending up where I started.
12/10/2011 03:33:02 PM · #16
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

That makes me feel a bit better Leroy. I knew you were a sensible guy even if I don't quite go along with your genre of photography. :)

Spork, I just don't buy the argument that says "paul's word is so vague, this word is better. Oh wait, well this word is vague as well..."


but not as vague.

In any event, claiming that that particular passage is where the bible calls out homosexuality as a sin just isn't the case. You can choose to interpret it that way and use that to justify your homophobia, but it's anything but definitive.
12/10/2011 02:22:41 PM · #17
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by o2bskating:

well ya know turn about is fair play

but two wrongs don't make a right ...


...but three lefts do!
12/10/2011 02:22:16 PM · #18
It's so difficult to find pornography on the internet, I can imagine kids trying to circumvent the age restrictions on Facebook to track some down.
12/10/2011 01:54:10 PM · #19
Originally posted by o2bskating:

well ya know turn about is fair play

but two wrongs don't make a right ...
12/10/2011 01:23:41 PM · #20
well ya know turn about is fair play
12/10/2011 01:20:49 PM · #21
Originally posted by o2bskating:

it's probably one of those parents you told to pay attention to what their kid does that got you banned. they probably had all their friends email facebook too and boom your account is gone.


Probably adds to the list of people reporting me. But, I've got pretty significant proof that it's a fauxtographer that reports most of my images. Let's just say someone with little talent, little sense and much more overhead than I have.
12/10/2011 01:13:04 PM · #22
it's probably one of those parents you told to pay attention to what their kid does that got you banned. they probably had all their friends email facebook too and boom your account is gone.
12/10/2011 01:09:46 PM · #23
That makes me feel a bit better Leroy. I knew you were a sensible guy even if I don't quite go along with your genre of photography. :)

Spork, I just don't buy the argument that says "paul's word is so vague, this word is better. Oh wait, well this word is vague as well..."

Message edited by author 2011-12-10 13:12:11.
12/10/2011 12:30:54 PM · #24
Originally posted by DrAchoo:


As far as Facebook? Meh. I wouldn't want my kids coming across that if this is a public page, but on the other hand culture is full of this stuff and Leroy is hardly the original instigator.


Just so ya know, my page isn't visible to anyone under the age of 18. That said, I've had parents message me to tell me their kids could see it. My response is always, "Then, you need to take that up with your child. My page is 18+. So, your kid might be misrepresenting his/her age."

I don't usually get a response. And I can imagine it irks them a bit that I imply that they should take responsibilty for what their kids do on the net.

Message edited by author 2011-12-10 12:33:55.
12/10/2011 02:38:43 AM · #25
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Originally posted by Spork99:


It would be hilarious if the literal translation of "paideresste" wasn't just as commonly translated to "boy lover". As in a man who loves boys.


Oh, yes, of course. But are you trying to tell me that all homosexuality in the ancient world was only between men and boys? Sex between two men was unheard of? If not, then why is the "perfect word" to be used specifically geared toward youth? Do you see my point? Where is the word to describe relations between two adult men?


But the meaning of the word "arsenokotai" is even less clear. In another, later instance not in the bible it is specifically referring to something men do to their wives... How could that be homosexual in any way?
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