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09/25/2011 01:39:30 PM · #1 |
Originally posted by undieyatch:
The "Challenge Details" for Abstract III are succinct and accurate - a dictionary definition of the word.
A serious challenge for those who have a tendancy to require some kind of recogniziable subject, invent their own meaning for words, or are not familiar with 20th century art history. |
This is an extremely difficult challenge for me. And I hated the challenge description, because I wanted to try something like this again:
To me, this is definitely an abstract, yet something that intrigued me greatly.
Nope. Subject can't be recognizable.
Irritating! I couldn't do what I wanted to do!
I'm still trying to come up with something. I've done 4 different shoots of different ideas. I'm not over the wall about any of them, but I kind of like a few.
But I certainly have been experimenting with things that I normal don't do. This is the type of challenge that's irritating, yet completely worthwhile because it gets you out of your comfort zone.
That being said, I'd love a normal challenge for a change! I'm tired of being out of my comfort zone! :D |
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09/25/2011 11:28:30 AM · #2 |
Originally posted by hahn23:
For a change, I specifically shot for this challenge. I love my entry, which probably means some voters will not. And, I researched my interpretation of the "concept" and found good documentation of its validity as an abstract. (linked in image details section) Sometimes we do our photography for our own education and enjoyment... in spite of savage votes by those who miss the message. |
I very much like the "sometimes we do our photography for our own education and enjoyment" - wonderful way to put it! And a challenge site, with sometimes contentious challenge definitions, is a great place to do just that, don't you think? |
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09/25/2011 11:22:40 AM · #3 |
| I shot a clearly recognizable subject but will make the title abstract |
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09/25/2011 10:31:43 AM · #4 |
| For a change, I specifically shot for this challenge. I love my entry, which probably means some voters will not. And, I researched my interpretation of the "concept" and found good documentation of its validity as an abstract. (linked in image details section) Sometimes we do our photography for our own education and enjoyment... in spite of savage votes by those who miss the message. |
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09/25/2011 10:02:53 AM · #5 |
The "Challenge Details" for Abstract III are succinct and accurate - a dictionary definition of the word.
A serious challenge for those who have a tendancy to require some kind of recogniziable subject, invent their own meaning for words, or are not familiar with 20th century art history.
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09/25/2011 12:21:00 AM · #6 |
| I used a USD 0.89 prop in mine. Sometimes, less is more. |
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09/25/2011 12:12:24 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by colorcarnival:
Originally posted by Melethia:
Mine is VERY recognizable to me, but then I was there when I shot it. |
+1 with an LOL |
Exactly my point. |
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09/24/2011 10:25:25 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Mine is VERY recognizable to me, but then I was there when I shot it. |
+1 with an LOL |
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09/24/2011 10:06:58 PM · #9 |
Mine is VERY recognizable to me, but then I was there when I shot it.
Message edited by author 2011-09-24 22:07:14. |
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09/24/2011 09:35:15 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by ace flyman:
+1 and this is way it's called a challenge. Read the description and try to come up with a creative shot which meets it......1-3's for every shot I can figure out what it is...(with in reason)..Lol
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by bspurgeon:
Cory, breathe and smile. |
Truthfully, I just dislike it when people disregard challenge topics...
In this case, I'm much more likely than usual to disregard them when voting, as I don't agree 100% that it should be unrecognizable, but rather, at least difficult to recognize... *shrug* |
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People whine when the challenge description is ambiguous! This time the challenge description is quite clear so I will vote according to the description.
We all have our idea of what abstract is and it's easy to shoot an abstract but much harder to shoot something that is unrecognizable. |
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09/24/2011 09:22:57 PM · #11 |
+1 and this is way it's called a challenge. Read the description and try to come up with a creative shot which meets it.....4's for every shot I can figure out what it is...(with in reason)..Lol
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by bspurgeon:
Cory, breathe and smile. |
Truthfully, I just dislike it when people disregard challenge topics...
In this case, I'm much more likely than usual to disregard them when voting, as I don't agree 100% that it should be unrecognizable, but rather, at least difficult to recognize... *shrug* |
edit: I haven't given 1-3 votes for years, just trying to make a point, 4's will be the DNMC score.... :-)
Message edited by author 2011-09-25 10:21:17. |
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09/24/2011 09:08:04 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by one2one:
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by bspurgeon:
Cory, breathe and smile. |
Truthfully, I just dislike it when people disregard challenge topics...
In this case, I'm much more likely than usual to disregard them when voting, as I don't agree 100% that it should be unrecognizable, but rather, at least difficult to recognize... *shrug* |
The world according to Cory. Do us a favour Cory, don't vote please. :) |
I totally understand where you're coming from.... Reading is sooo very hard isn't it? Comprehension is even more wicked difficult.. My sympathies.... |
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09/24/2011 09:01:43 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by one2one:
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by bspurgeon:
Cory, breathe and smile. |
Truthfully, I just dislike it when people disregard challenge topics...
In this case, I'm much more likely than usual to disregard them when voting, as I don't agree 100% that it should be unrecognizable, but rather, at least difficult to recognize... *shrug* |
The world according to Cory. Do us a favour Cory, don't vote please. :) |
I totally understand where you're coming from.... Reading is sooo very hard isn't it? Comprehension is even more wicked difficult.. My sympathies.... |
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09/24/2011 08:10:38 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by one2one:
The world according to Cory. Do us a favour Cory, don't vote please. :) |
Ya Cory, what is the idea of reading the full challenge rules and using them to inform your voting? Sheesh. It is much better to pretend they are all free studies. |
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09/24/2011 06:56:59 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by bspurgeon:
Cory, breathe and smile. |
Truthfully, I just dislike it when people disregard challenge topics...
In this case, I'm much more likely than usual to disregard them when voting, as I don't agree 100% that it should be unrecognizable, but rather, at least difficult to recognize... *shrug* |
The world according to Cory. Do us a favour Cory, don't vote please. :) |
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09/20/2011 11:17:07 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by bspurgeon:
Cory, breathe and smile. |
Truthfully, I just dislike it when people disregard challenge topics...
In this case, I'm much more likely than usual to disregard them when voting, as I don't agree 100% that it should be unrecognizable, but rather, at least difficult to recognize... *shrug* |
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09/20/2011 08:15:50 PM · #17 |
Anything abstract!
It would be fun to see what people do with this.
That was my suggestion for the challenge topic. Simple as that.
"If it is recognizable as an object - it is not an abstract." Okay, so that's written into the description, but something that is recognizable to me may not be to you, especially if I present it as an abstract.
Or something abstract that I show you may look like something you think you recognize. Who knows?
Just do it. |
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09/20/2011 07:15:26 PM · #18 |
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09/20/2011 07:03:00 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by Cory:
I am, however, in the minority. |
As am I, but like most minorities in a popular vote, I do not expect my vote to carry the day often. |
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09/20/2011 06:44:28 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
Originally posted by mefnj:
so, looking back at the previous Abstract challenges (excluding the puzzle macros), many of the top placers seem to me to be recognizable objects (eg., staircases, smoke, buildings), just photographed in interesting ways.
so, what gives?! |
Look at three amigos front page, and look at the full description. Few voters read the full description, and fewer still will vote down a beautiful image that misses the challenge, relative to a less lovely image that fulfills all the requirements. Read the challenge title, and only use the explanatory wording as a guide if you need it; most voters will not use it to guide their votes. |
And then you have me.. I'll slap a 3 on a beautiful shot if it doesn't indicate a clear understanding of, and compliance to, the challenge description....
I suppose that's because I can't stand people who cannot be bothered to read and understand the requirements. I am, however, in the minority. |
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09/20/2011 06:06:57 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by mefnj:
so, looking back at the previous Abstract challenges (excluding the puzzle macros), many of the top placers seem to me to be recognizable objects (eg., staircases, smoke, buildings), just photographed in interesting ways.
so, what gives?! |
Look at three amigos front page, and look at the full description. Few voters read the full description, and fewer still will vote down a beautiful image that misses the challenge, relative to a less lovely image that fulfills all the requirements. Read the challenge title, and only use the explanatory wording as a guide if you need it; most voters will not use it to guide their votes. |
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09/20/2011 05:59:13 PM · #22 |
| Just because you can recognize the subject, doesn't mean it's not abstract IMO. |
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09/20/2011 05:32:11 PM · #23 |
All the abstract challenges of the last had this description. Can we agree to ignore it once more?
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09/20/2011 05:30:26 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by mefnj:
so, what gives?! |
I was just thinking myself that that was an awful definition of abstract. |
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09/20/2011 05:29:21 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by mefnj:
ok, ok... i'm going to ask what i am sure will be answered by "don't take the challenge description too literal", but here goes...
the challenge description states
"Abstracts are about lines, shapes and colors. If it is recognizable as an object - it is not an abstract." [emphasis mine]
so, looking back at the previous Abstract challenges (excluding the puzzle macros), many of the top placers seem to me to be recognizable objects (eg., staircases, smoke, buildings), just photographed in interesting ways.
so, what gives?! |
From the suggestion thread:
Originally posted by yakatme:
Originally posted by KarenNfld:
Originally posted by Fiora:
I wish the description "If you can recognize an object, its not an abstract" wasn't apart of it. I personally think you can take abstract photos of things you can recognize.
But maybe thats just be |
I agree with you 100%!! There are many beautiful architecture abstracts where I can tell what the object is but it's still an abstract. Abstract doesn't mean unrecognizable. |
I was just looking to see if there was already a thread started where I could express that same opinion.
Here's a fantastic example of an abstract by  Ursula in which the subject is recognizable.
To whoever wrote the challenge description: Convince me that this isn't an abstract...and a great example of an abstract as well. |
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