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06/28/2011 10:32:13 PM · #1 |
| I didn't think so... Good thing I didn't! Haha! |
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06/28/2011 10:14:38 PM · #2 |
Originally posted by mbrutus2009:
Just for future knowledge (not going back to re-edit my photo) is burning and dodging aloud in basic? |
Absolutely not. |
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06/28/2011 10:00:21 PM · #3 |
| Just for future knowledge (not going back to re-edit my photo) is burning and dodging aloud in basic? |
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06/28/2011 09:47:41 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by Dphoto:
Is the healing brush allowed in basic editing? I'm thinking no but thought I would ask before I throw a photo away. |
It's allowed for the purpose of cloning sensor dust or hot pixels.
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06/28/2011 09:32:24 PM · #5 |
I'm in... And had to do a bit of bribing to get the shot. Haha!
Not expecting much but we will see.. :) |
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06/28/2011 09:03:08 PM · #6 |
| Thanks Kelli. Hmmmmmmmm, what now........ |
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06/28/2011 09:01:26 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by Dphoto:
Is the healing brush allowed in basic editing? I'm thinking no but thought I would ask before I throw a photo away. |
no |
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06/28/2011 08:51:15 PM · #8 |
| Is the healing brush allowed in basic editing? I'm thinking no but thought I would ask before I throw a photo away. |
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06/28/2011 12:29:01 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by UrfaTheGreat:
I'm in but I'm worried about the people with darker monitors (my subject is barely there and any darker it'll just disappear) and I also keep remembering the dq where darkening an image deleted the background. I can see my background but on a darker monitor .... *twiddling thumbs* |
I'm sure we would be very careful in evaluating a photo for validation. Photoshop's Info window can show the difference between an area 95% black from one 99% black, even if it's not visible on the screen. However, I have the same problem with the voters, as this recent entry ...
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Thanks for the response. It's really funny but I'm resisting the temptation to make it darker.. I apparently like my low key to be 'really' low key 0_0
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06/28/2011 10:39:02 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by weheh:
Can a PS gradient exposure filter layer be used under basic editing rules? |
Looks like no since it involves a mask layer. |
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06/28/2011 06:02:42 AM · #11 |
| Can a PS gradient exposure filter layer be used under basic editing rules? |
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06/27/2011 06:11:33 PM · #12 |
I had this problem with one of my entries... considering
is on every single image vote screen I'm amazed more people don't pay attention to it before voting an image down because it's "too dark" when I'd bet money on ~20% of the scale being indistinguishable to most them. While I'm sure it's not practical, a test such as a hot-or-not-esq "which is darker" before allowing people to vote would solve most of these issues and also get more people configuring their monitors properly. |
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06/26/2011 12:40:31 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by UrfaTheGreat:
I'm in but I'm worried about the people with darker monitors (my subject is barely there and any darker it'll just disappear) and I also keep remembering the dq where darkening an image deleted the background. I can see my background but on a darker monitor .... *twiddling thumbs* |
I'm sure we would be very careful in evaluating a photo for validation. Photoshop's Info window can show the difference between an area 95% black from one 99% black, even if it's not visible on the screen. However, I have the same problem with the voters, as this recent entry ...
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06/26/2011 11:19:09 AM · #14 |
I'm in but I'm worried about the people with darker monitors (my subject is barely there and any darker it'll just disappear) and I also keep remembering the dq where darkening an image deleted the background. I can see my background but on a darker monitor .... *twiddling thumbs*
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06/26/2011 06:31:07 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by salmiakki:
Originally posted by alexlky:
A portrait shot taken days ago, will this one consider Low Key?
Meneater |
Would work great in National Geographic :) |
My fellow team mateduring this expedition are with them now at Himalayas
Another confuse LK poster "the figure is the only part of the image"
How to use camera histogram to detect perfect LK/HK images
Message edited by author 2011-06-26 06:34:22. |
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06/26/2011 12:01:02 AM · #16 |
That's a pretty good distillation, Ben; and both those images feel distinctly low-key to me.
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06/25/2011 11:43:33 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by MargaretN:
Iam confused. I looked at the histogram and looks very low key to me. Have I misunderstood this challenge? |
Well, for me the issue of "low key" is best addressed by concentrating on the subject and how it is lit/rendered. I don't think a full-scale, toned subject floating in a sea of black qualifies as "low key", even if the histogram shows (correctly) that virtually all of the image is black.
... So I think histograms can be very deceptive.
But that's just my personal opinion, not gospel or anything.
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Robert, can I distill your comments down to contrast and distribution of tones? Did I read you correctly? Represent all tones, preserving contrast in key areas. Same goes for high key from my perspective.
An example that I consider low key despite bright regions, both of which I like.
 
My Low Key IV entry. Poorly polished. Too low key, laking in anything over zone 6.
 1x version, proper whites to balance the blacks (IMHO). |
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06/25/2011 10:42:07 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by MargaretN:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by TheDruid:
Originally posted by mbrutus2009:
My thought on the whole... "Would this be considered DNMC?" question is this...
If you have to ask.. I wouldn't submit it.. |
With a different cropping, think it would work meet criteria. |
What possible cropping, that still includes the figure, would make this more low key? The figure is the only part of the image that *doesn't* feel low key to me...
R. |
I am confused. I looked at the histogram and looks very low key to me. Have I misunderstood this challenge? |
Well, for me the issue of "low key" is best addressed by concentrating on the subject and how it is lit/rendered. I don't think a full-scale, toned subject floating in a sea of black qualifies as "low key", even if the histogram shows (correctly) that virtually all of the image is black.
Let me ask you this: if you shot a picture of the full moon in the middle of the night, where the moon was fully detailed but only filled an eighth of the frame or so, the rest being black sky, would you call that "low key"? Would you call a single, white lily against a large, black velvet ground, isolated in the corner, "low key"? I wouldn't, in either case, but the *histogram* would suggest both qualified. So I think histograms can be very deceptive.
But that's just my personal opinion, not gospel or anything.
R. |
But that goes back to lighting determining whether the image is low key, and not the overall tone of the image. I am still confused :) (looks like a great challenge for DNMC police - get your light meters ready! ;) |
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06/25/2011 09:52:09 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by alexlky:
A portrait shot taken days ago, will this one consider Low Key?
Meneater |
Would work great in National Geographic :) |
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06/25/2011 09:39:20 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by MargaretN:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by TheDruid:
Originally posted by mbrutus2009:
My thought on the whole... "Would this be considered DNMC?" question is this...
If you have to ask.. I wouldn't submit it.. |
With a different cropping, think it would work meet criteria. |
What possible cropping, that still includes the figure, would make this more low key? The figure is the only part of the image that *doesn't* feel low key to me...
R. |
I am confused. I looked at the histogram and looks very low key to me. Have I misunderstood this challenge? |
Well, for me the issue of "low key" is best addressed by concentrating on the subject and how it is lit/rendered. I don't think a full-scale, toned subject floating in a sea of black qualifies as "low key", even if the histogram shows (correctly) that virtually all of the image is black.
Let me ask you this: if you shot a picture of the full moon in the middle of the night, where the moon was fully detailed but only filled an eighth of the frame or so, the rest being black sky, would you call that "low key"? Would you call a single, white lily against a large, black velvet ground, isolated in the corner, "low key"? I wouldn't, in either case, but the *histogram* would suggest both qualified. So I think histograms can be very deceptive.
But that's just my personal opinion, not gospel or anything.
R. |
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06/25/2011 09:33:12 PM · #21 |
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Message edited by author 2011-06-26 11:27:49. |
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06/25/2011 09:26:58 PM · #22 |
I think there is a confusion between low key lighting and low key photography. The distinction seems to be much clearer for high key photography. This link might be of interest:
[thumb]//www.fuelyourphotography.com/key-photography-effects-high-key-and-low-key-photography/[/thumb]
but I am yet to find a better online resource for this technique. Low key seems to focus almost entirely on portraits. High key includes landscapes. |
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06/25/2011 09:19:16 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by TheDruid:
Originally posted by mbrutus2009:
My thought on the whole... "Would this be considered DNMC?" question is this...
If you have to ask.. I wouldn't submit it.. |
With a different cropping, think it would work meet criteria. |
What possible cropping, that still includes the figure, would make this more low key? The figure is the only part of the image that *doesn't* feel low key to me...
R. |
I am confused. I looked at the histogram and looks very low key to me. Have I misunderstood this challenge? |
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06/25/2011 09:09:51 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by TheDruid:
Originally posted by mbrutus2009:
My thought on the whole... "Would this be considered DNMC?" question is this...
If you have to ask.. I wouldn't submit it.. |
With a different cropping, think it would work meet criteria. |
What possible cropping, that still includes the figure, would make this more low key? The figure is the only part of the image that *doesn't* feel low key to me...
R. |
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06/25/2011 09:03:02 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by mbrutus2009:
My thought on the whole... "Would this be considered DNMC?" question is this...
If you have to ask.. I wouldn't submit it.. |
With a different cropping, think it would work meet criteria. |
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