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04/22/2011 11:26:14 AM · #1 |
Originally posted by Spork99:
If you want to slow down and walk through your imaging process, you guys should try using a view camera. |
They are fun to use, definitely slows you down. I've debated reentering film by purchasing a 5x7 view camera for quite a while, for art photography, but I usually end up deciding that developing becomes quite costly, for anything more than basic D-76 developing. If I need anything more, such as E-6 developing, or drum scans or custom printing done, costs start piling up quickly.
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04/22/2011 11:20:47 AM · #2 |
Originally posted by kawana:
anyone use old manual primes? Im thinking about buying a takumar prime and using an m42 adaptor I have. |
I had not thought of how I might be able to use manual primes, but I dearly miss my old Nikon AIS lenses. The focus mechanism was so smooth and I loved watching the image come into focus as I twisted the focus ring. |
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04/22/2011 11:03:16 AM · #3 |
to contribute to the list of manual focus primes, here are my favs (all lenses for medium format mounts):
Mamiya 80mm f/1.9 Sekor C (for Mamiya 645)
Carl-Zeiss 180mm f/2.8 (for Pentacon Six)
90mm f/3.5 EBC Fujinon on my Fuji GW670 II |
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04/22/2011 10:04:08 AM · #4 |
| If you want to slow down and walk through your imaging process, you guys should try using a view camera. |
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04/22/2011 01:09:24 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by tnun:
Originally posted by kawana:
anyone use old manual primes? Im thinking about buying a takumar prime and using an m42 adaptor I have. |
yes, what spirspat said. although you can always test the exposure on the lcd (I don't have live view), the manual focus is the fun part. somehow it makes me feel that autofocus is a device that separates me from the view. and in fact it does: autofocus is a set of actions, a program, a flowchart, that has to be zipped through before you get there. prolly I am the only one who finds this somewhat disturbing, unsettling and makes me think depressing thoughts about technology despite my lust for it. |
Nah, I understand what you mean. It strikes me more as a fundamental disconnect, reminiscent of the difference between smart bombs and trench warfare. One is so much more visceral, full of sounds, vibrations, and feelings.
I'm not going to lie though... using that split prism for focusing is still a bit weird, and I'm not all that fast at it yet. |
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04/22/2011 12:45:26 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by kawana:
anyone use old manual primes? Im thinking about buying a takumar prime and using an m42 adaptor I have. |
yes, what spirspat said. although you can always test the exposure on the lcd (I don't have live view), the manual focus is the fun part. somehow it makes me feel that autofocus is a device that separates me from the view. and in fact it does: autofocus is a set of actions, a program, a flowchart, that has to be zipped through before you get there. prolly I am the only one who finds this somewhat disturbing, unsettling and makes me think depressing thoughts about technology despite my lust for it. |
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04/22/2011 12:41:21 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by spiritualspatula:
Originally posted by chazoe:
I just bought an old school E series 50mm f1.8 on eBay for $40. Can't wait till it gets here. It will be my first prime lens |
If it's in good condition, it's a really fun lens. I love the look of the photos it turns out. There is a difference in look that I really can't put into words, and I'm really fond of it. I got mine on Craigslist in mint for less than that, so hopefully yours will be in great condition too. I originally just got it for extension tube use/macro, but found that it's really a joy to use outright. |
I got my lens in the mail yesterday, it is in excellent condition. It is a blast to use also. I love manual focus and the bokeh is just awesome. I will be using this lens a lot. |
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04/21/2011 11:56:52 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by kawana:
anyone use old manual primes? Im thinking about buying a takumar prime and using an m42 adaptor I have. |
Yeah, I really like my E Series 50mm 1.8. Part of why I like it is how it slows you down to do everything, but also because of its look.
I also use a manual lens on my film body, but it isn't a prime. |
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04/21/2011 11:42:50 PM · #9 |
| anyone use old manual primes? Im thinking about buying a takumar prime and using an m42 adaptor I have. |
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04/20/2011 09:48:29 AM · #10 |
| Vivitar MF Macro 55mm 1:2:8 f/2.8 for Nikon I LOVE this lens....definitely my favorite one |
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04/20/2011 09:02:06 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by smardaz:
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The newer version is much more awesome! |
???
no way. you don't reinvent a classic.
and don't even get me started on what Michael Bay did to him.
Message edited by author 2011-04-20 09:03:04. |
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04/20/2011 08:21:53 AM · #12 |
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04/20/2011 08:19:00 AM · #13 |
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04/20/2011 08:05:08 AM · #14 |
| My favorite prime is my Tokina 100mm f/2.8 (followed closely by my Nikon 50mm f/1.8) |
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04/20/2011 05:57:52 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by Simms:
Originally posted by Patrick_D_Harrington:
The Canon 24-70mm f2.8L USM may be the lens that saves your 1D from the chopping block if it is "Bokeh" it lacks with your other primes. I know it is a zoom but I dare you to try this lens on that "H" sensor body. I can achieve Paper thin depth of field with this lens even on a APS-C 1.6 crop body. |
Hi Patrick, thanks for chipping in but I already have a 24-70f2.8 (if you click on a users name you can view their profile and a list of the equipment they use) - to be honest you`ll always find a fast prime offers more pleasing bokeh and shallower DOF that a lot of the mid-range zooms. Until you actually shoot on full-frame and `feel` the difference in the shots then its hard to describe the difference. If you like the 24-70 on a 7D then you`ll be gobsmacked at the images it produces on a full-frame body. However, some people love cropped sensor cameras - especially for adding a bit of extra reach to their lens collection. One mans meat is another mans poison I guess.
By the way, welcome to the site! ;-) |
With you all the way, I’d say that everything you said applies to all my lenses not just the primes. The 7D will be traded in almost on the day of release of the 5dMKII; despite its fast frame rates and excellent focussing abilities, I almost never use it. Even If I go out with two bodies on a dual strap to save changing lenses, the 7d has become an expensive lens holder and I'll end up swapping lenses anyway. I just hope Canon don't push the resolution of the 5DMKIII to such an extent that the smoothness is negated by baseline noise - the pixel pitch on the 7d is a step too farI feel. Having said all that, perhaps it's all geometric and purely related to sensor size in relation to focal length but previous conversations here suggested otherwise. |
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04/20/2011 05:31:58 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by Patrick_D_Harrington:
The Canon 24-70mm f2.8L USM may be the lens that saves your 1D from the chopping block if it is "Bokeh" it lacks with your other primes. I know it is a zoom but I dare you to try this lens on that "H" sensor body. I can achieve Paper thin depth of field with this lens even on a APS-C 1.6 crop body. |
Hi Patrick, thanks for chipping in but I already have a 24-70f2.8 (if you click on a users name you can view their profile and a list of the equipment they use) - to be honest you`ll always find a fast prime offers more pleasing bokeh and shallower DOF that a lot of the mid-range zooms. Until you actually shoot on full-frame and `feel` the difference in the shots then its hard to describe the difference. If you like the 24-70 on a 7D then you`ll be gobsmacked at the images it produces on a full-frame body. However, some people love cropped sensor cameras - especially for adding a bit of extra reach to their lens collection. One mans meat is another mans poison I guess.
By the way, welcome to the site! ;-)
Message edited by author 2011-04-20 05:37:45. |
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04/19/2011 10:17:39 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by Simms:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by Simms:
Obviously this refers to full-frame only and not crop as primes on crops are crap. |
Care to expand on that? I'm pretty sure I know why you say that, but I'm not sure a lot of people will...
R. |
OK, but keeping it simple - I wont/cant go into the physics etc that you undoubtedly can, however - I shoot on two cameras - Canon 1D (1.3x crop factor) and a 5D classic (full frame) - when shooting with primes on the crop sensor the images just don`t seem to look/feel as good. One of the key features of primes is they are fast, and fast equals nice wide apertures, and nice wide apertures equate to yummy bokeh effects and super shallow DOFs. Baically images taken on the 5D just `feel` better than similar images taken with the same prime lens on my 1D. To the point the 1D is up for the chop as soon as the 5Dmk3 makes an appearance - the 1D is a great camera, but the feel and look of the images when using primes, hell when using any lens - just feels far superior. I will never buy a cropped sensor camera again.
Personal preference I guess. |
The Canon 24-70mm f2.8L USM may be the lens that saves your 1D from the chopping block if it is "Bokeh" it lacks with your other primes. I know it is a zoom but I dare you to try this lens on that "H" sensor body. I can achieve Paper thin depth of field with this lens even on a APS-C 1.6 crop body.
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04/19/2011 08:13:35 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by Simms:
Obviously this refers to full-frame only and not crop as primes on crops are crap. |
Care to expand on that? I'm pretty sure I know why you say that, but I'm not sure a lot of people will...
R. |
OK, but keeping it simple - I wont/cant go into the physics etc that you undoubtedly can, however - I shoot on two cameras - Canon 1D (1.3x crop factor) and a 5D classic (full frame) - when shooting with primes on the crop sensor the images just don`t seem to look/feel as good. One of the key features of primes is they are fast, and fast equals nice wide apertures, and nice wide apertures equate to yummy bokeh effects and super shallow DOFs. Baically images taken on the 5D just `feel` better than similar images taken with the same prime lens on my 1D. To the point the 1D is up for the chop as soon as the 5Dmk3 makes an appearance - the 1D is a great camera, but the feel and look of the images when using primes, hell when using any lens - just feels far superior. I will never buy a cropped sensor camera again.
Personal preference I guess. |
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04/19/2011 05:35:29 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by Simms:
Obviously this refers to full-frame only and not crop as primes on crops are crap. |
Care to expand on that? I'm pretty sure I know why you say that, but I'm not sure a lot of people will...
R. |
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04/19/2011 05:27:16 PM · #20 |
It would have to be a toss up between my 50mm f1.4 or my 85 f1.2 mk2 - I think if I had to have only one it would be the 85mm but only by a gnats whisker.
Obviously this refers to full-frame only and not crop as primes on crops are crap.
Message edited by author 2011-04-19 17:27:26. |
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04/19/2011 11:27:26 AM · #21 |
I know it isn't a prime but it shoots like several Primes in one I absolutely love my Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L USM. It’s fast, razor sharp, capable of achieving incredibly shallow Depth of field, even on a crop sensor body, and did I mention it is unbelievably sharp? Again, (for the lynch-mob preparing to jump all over this post in an effort to flex their keen understanding of lens designs and point out the obvious) I fully understand this is a zoom lens and have no intension of high jacking this thread. I just thought it might be of interest for those reading this thread in hopes of getting some food for thought, or perhaps insights on where to invest on their next lens purchase.
//www.the-digital-picture.com/reviews/canon-ef-24-70mm-f-2.8-l-usm-lens-review.aspx
Message edited by author 2011-04-19 11:29:24.
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04/17/2011 04:14:46 AM · #22 |
the best prime for portraits would be Canon 85 mm f1.2L II USM. This is the fastest prime in its class. Nothing can beat its bokeh
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04/17/2011 03:56:59 AM · #23 |
| Definitely my Canon 85mm 1.8. |
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04/17/2011 01:21:25 AM · #24 |
| Canon 85mm f/1.8 on a crop body camera. I'm hoping the 135mm f/2 will be equally good on a full frame body, but I haven't had it long enough to know yet. |
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04/16/2011 09:41:33 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by chazoe:
I just bought an old school E series 50mm f1.8 on eBay for $40. Can't wait till it gets here. It will be my first prime lens |
If it's in good condition, it's a really fun lens. I love the look of the photos it turns out. There is a difference in look that I really can't put into words, and I'm really fond of it. I got mine on Craigslist in mint for less than that, so hopefully yours will be in great condition too. I originally just got it for extension tube use/macro, but found that it's really a joy to use outright. |
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