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11/07/2010 11:51:24 AM · #1

Originally posted by K10DGuy:

Originally posted by pedrobop:

Originally posted by K10DGuy:
I think threads like this are a huge reason I have mostly stopped submitting :/

Why?

It just becomes a game of micro-management and nitpicking. Nothing ever gets solved, and people end up more confused than they were to begin with. heh. To me, it's just a manifestation of the frustrations and stagnation for the site as a whole. It's less about photography as it is about minutiae. Less about fun as it is about staunch adherence to detail. Less about the moment as it is about crafting what we think others wish to see.

For some, I suppose, that's the whole draw. For me, it ruins the entire experience.

I made the other way, i loved photography all my life and this site is a great experience for me, i started to make photos here trying to win something and (of course) trying to please the public. Nowadays it's not very important for me to please other people but my happiness is really important, and i just participate challenges when i feel confortable with my shot, the result is a consequence and i like the critics, as i have a lot of things to learn!
But i understand your point. It sounds a little pessimist though.

Love6

Sony DSLR-A330

11/06/2010 11:33:06 PM · #2

Originally posted by vawendy:

Originally posted by Kelli:
This is where they are getting this from... Extra Rules: You may use up to 3 unique captures to create your triptych in a traditional non-overlapping sequence.

Ahhh... missed that.

However, it say "may" not "must"

people are still being too restrictive on this.

when are people not restrictive when it comes to whatever is written? :-D its all semantics in the end! :-) but... in reality its just plain fact- ppl are gonna like what they'll like and they'll dislike what they'll dislike .. sadly enough - seems to be little room for change in between..

11/06/2010 04:41:09 PM · #3

Originally posted by hahn23:

Originally posted by K10DGuy:

I can ignore the threads, I cannot ignore the zeitgeist.

Have you tried to increase your consumption of dietary fiber? That may help.

Coming from you, that's rich.

11/06/2010 04:30:42 PM · #4

Originally posted by K10DGuy:

I can ignore the threads, I cannot ignore the zeitgeist.

Have you tried to increase your consumption of dietary fiber? That may help.

11/06/2010 03:32:01 PM · #5

Originally posted by vawendy:

Originally posted by K10DGuy:

Originally posted by pedrobop:

Originally posted by K10DGuy:
I think threads like this are a huge reason I have mostly stopped submitting :/

Why?

It just becomes a game of micro-management and nitpicking. Nothing ever gets solved, and people end up more confused than they were to begin with. heh. To me, it's just a manifestation of the frustrations and stagnation for the site as a whole. It's less about photography as it is about minutiae. Less about fun as it is about staunch adherence to detail. Less about the moment as it is about crafting what we think others wish to see.

For some, I suppose, that's the whole draw. For me, it ruins the entire experience.

best thing to do is to ignore these threads, then. They're not overly populated -- they're not really going to change anything. Some people just like a heads up into people's thoughts on a challenge. I find them very interesting, because they point out things that I never would have considered. I like a little advanced insight. However, I also have found that many times they're just plain wrong as to guesses on what will work and what won't.

So I see no harm in them. They are what you make of them.

I can ignore the threads, I cannot ignore the zeitgeist.

11/06/2010 03:15:03 PM · #6

Originally posted by K10DGuy:

best thing to do is to ignore these threads, then. They're not overly populated -- they're not really going to change anything. Some people just like a heads up into people's thoughts on a challenge. I find them very interesting, because they point out things that I never would have considered. I like a little advanced insight. However, I also have found that many times they're just plain wrong as to guesses on what will work and what won't.

So I see no harm in them. They are what you make of them.

Message edited by author 2010-11-06 15:15:37.

11/06/2010 02:52:22 PM · #7

Originally posted by pedrobop:

Originally posted by K10DGuy:
I think threads like this are a huge reason I have mostly stopped submitting :/

Why?

It just becomes a game of micro-management and nitpicking. Nothing ever gets solved, and people end up more confused than they were to begin with. heh. To me, it's just a manifestation of the frustrations and stagnation for the site as a whole. It's less about photography as it is about minutiae. Less about fun as it is about staunch adherence to detail. Less about the moment as it is about crafting what we think others wish to see.

For some, I suppose, that's the whole draw. For me, it ruins the entire experience.

11/06/2010 02:45:29 PM · #8

Originally posted by K10DGuy:

I think threads like this are a huge reason I have mostly stopped submitting :/

Why?

11/06/2010 02:42:30 PM · #9

I think threads like this are a huge reason I have mostly stopped submitting :/

11/06/2010 02:41:04 PM · #10

Originally posted by vawendy:

Originally posted by pedrobop:
I have a great idea and was almost paying my membership to enter this challenge. But the rain won't stop and i need our good fella sun.
SUCKS!

haha! That's funny, because I was really, really hoping that it would rain!!

Oh my...You pay my flight to USA and i pay yours to Brazil?

Message edited by author 2010-11-06 14:41:57.

11/06/2010 01:40:52 PM · #11

Originally posted by pedrobop:

I have a great idea and was almost paying my membership to enter this challenge. But the rain won't stop and i need our good fella sun.
SUCKS!

haha! That's funny, because I was really, really hoping that it would rain!!

11/06/2010 12:01:02 PM · #12

I have a great idea and was almost paying my membership to enter this challenge. But the rain won't stop and i need our good fella sun.
SUCKS!

11/05/2010 05:48:37 PM · #13

Okay, I can talk about "the process" since no one will ever recognize MY style in this challenge. LOL!!!! (no elk!) So, I completed the photo shoot yesterday. I was tired at the end of the day and didn't have the energy needed for the "creative process". Anyway, I put together a traditional sequence of images, with no overlap. I didn't use the same size images and found it very awkward to put together the "assortment". Ran the preliminary/rudimentary triptych by the formidable Mrs.Hahn and she turned up her nose. Sent a copy to the sensitive subject/model and that person gave me zero response. Those two things are the harbingers of a failed effort. It takes a PRO to recognize the undeniable signs of initial failure. LOL!!!

New day! I looked at the first "end product" a couple times in the Preview feature of the challenge entry window. I didn't think it was "horrible". Yet, I had no illusions of a score above 5.5000. Because I'm trying to expand my range, I thought it was incumbent upon me to try harder. I mean, I had the raw materials to build a triptych. Seems like I was failing on the PP end (my ultimate weakness). I felt stronger and more clear headed today. I decided to try to fix the attributes which made the first effort fail. For one thing, the first effort was awkwardly long on the horizontal, i.e., too short vertically due to the limitation of 800 pixels on the relatively long dimensions and the strange combo/comp. I looked back at previous winners in triptych challenges to find eye-pleasing presentations. It then occurred to me that I needed an aspect ratio which was eye-pleasing. ((ephiphany!)) Now that sounds like something I should have already known, but I don't do people photography and this is a learning experience.

Finally, without any re-shoot, based on things learned from my initial failure, I re-selected images which would "work" in my mind's eye. Gee, it all sort of fell into place in a short period of time. (although, I suspect my subconscious had been working on this non-stop in the interim, me being an INTJ.) When I re-processed images, I knew exactly the mistakes I made in initial processing. And, when cropping & sizing, I knew exactly what I needed for the goal comp. And, in the end, it was all worth the effort of the calm, collected PP re-make.

Now, the only problem is I've raised my expectations to a score of 6.000. At least the learning process is ongoing...

Message edited by author 2010-11-05 19:02:40.

Canon EF 28-135mm F/3.5-5.6 IS USM

11/05/2010 11:54:59 AM · #14

Originally posted by Kelli:

This is where they are getting this from... Extra Rules: You may use up to 3 unique captures to create your triptych in a traditional non-overlapping sequence.

Ahhh... missed that.

However, it say "may" not "must"

people are still being too restrictive on this.

Message edited by author 2010-11-05 11:56:15.

Kelli

Canon EOS-D60

11/05/2010 11:51:43 AM · #15

This is where they are getting this from... Extra Rules: You may use up to 3 unique captures to create your triptych in a traditional non-overlapping sequence.

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L Macro IS USM

11/05/2010 11:49:24 AM · #16

ummmm... from where are people getting all of these extra assumptions?

It does not say "non-overlapping" it does not say "3 unique portraits". Why are people putting extra restrictions on this?

A triptych can be all the same picture. Will it tell a story as well as three different shots? probably not, but who knows? But does it have to be three separate? no.

And the non-overlapping...?

sorry folks, you're placing too many restrictions that just don't exist.

Message edited by author 2010-11-05 11:56:25.

giantmike

Canon EOS R6

11/05/2010 11:46:31 AM · #17

Originally posted by bnilesh:

Can anybody help me for understanding 3 unique portraits? What is true from below?
1. The 3 portrait should be of 3 different persons.
2. The 3 images can be of a same person but each one should be different.

I believe both options are equally valid.

scarbrd

Leica M10

Leica 35mm f/1.4 Summilux M Aspherical MF - Black

11/05/2010 11:45:34 AM · #18

Originally posted by bnilesh:

Either scenario would be acceptable IMO. The aesthetic success would lie in the story being told.

bnilesh

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

11/05/2010 11:41:46 AM · #19

Leica 35mm f/1.4 Summilux M Aspherical MF - Black

11/04/2010 05:11:40 PM · #20

Originally posted by scarbrd:

Originally posted by hahn23:
Okay, this challenge takes me way out of my comfort zone, but I'm going to force myself to make an effort to photograph a human(s). Excuse my ignorance, I don't completely understand some of the language.

A "non-overlapping series" is pretty clear, but....

1. Does the series need to be of equally sized images?
2. If sizes can vary, can different size portraits be arranged in a creative way? (I get the part about not overlapping.)
3. Does it matter if one or two are in portrait orientation and the third in horizontal orientation? Or, must all be portrait orientation?

Sorry for asking such really stupid questions, but I don't do this kind of photography. Maybe I'll learn something.

1. no
2. yes
3. each image can be either orientation

Of course, this is MHO.

Look back at some of the past triptych challenges. You'll see how some were very creative in how they executed the arrangement and orientation.

Thanks! That's very helpful. I've done the photo session and am now creatively processing. LOL!!!!

scarbrd

Leica M10

11/04/2010 04:50:36 PM · #21

Originally posted by hahn23:

Okay, this challenge takes me way out of my comfort zone, but I'm going to force myself to make an effort to photograph a human(s). Excuse my ignorance, I don't completely understand some of the language.

A "non-overlapping series" is pretty clear, but....

1. Does the series need to be of equally sized images?
2. If sizes can vary, can different size portraits be arranged in a creative way? (I get the part about not overlapping.)
3. Does it matter if one or two are in portrait orientation and the third in horizontal orientation? Or, must all be portrait orientation?

Sorry for asking such really stupid questions, but I don't do this kind of photography. Maybe I'll learn something.

1. no
2. yes
3. each image can be either orientation

Of course, this is MHO.

Look back at some of the past triptych challenges. You'll see how some were very creative in how they executed the arrangement and orientation.