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08/18/2010 08:31:58 AM · #1
Originally posted by Beetle:

I'm a big fan. I find them easy to look at, and they amaze me when they come to life in such a dramatic way! Even something as amateur as my little effort here looks awesome once you see it in 3D.



Nice, works well. Here are lots of 3D Stereograms to have fun with. You see them by doing the same cross-eye thing with your eyes as with your woody picture. You have to sort of look beyond the image, focus your eyes on a imaginary point further behind the image, like looking through the image in other words.
//www.eyetricks.com/3dstereo.htm

Some nice big one's
//www.focusillusion.com/YuryGallery/Yury26.php

Ps. Instructions on how to see the 3D stereograms
//www.focusillusion.com/Instructions/

Message edited by author 2010-08-18 08:40:36.
08/18/2010 07:02:35 AM · #2
I'm a big fan. I find them easy to look at, and they amaze me when they come to life in such a dramatic way! Even something as amateur as my little effort here looks awesome once you see it in 3D.

08/18/2010 06:45:23 AM · #3
Originally posted by JustCaree:

3D will never be in my house...

gives me migraines... my husband vertigo... and my mom panic attacks... we are definitely part of the 10%


I had to close my eyes for 98% of avatar. Made me extremely motion sick. At least 3D photos don't make me ill, but it doesn't feel to great crossing my eyes.

Never been much of a fan of 3D. Seems over-hyped to me. Perhaps I just haven't seen enough of the good stuff.
08/18/2010 05:08:29 AM · #4
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by kirbic:


Stereograms have been around for a long time, certainly from the first half of the last century.


Since 1839, actually...

R.


Bear_Music has Yankoed me... :(

Originally posted by SaraR:

Originally posted by Louis:

Originally posted by fridjo:

stereograms were here already five years ago, this one is meant for cross-eyed viewing:

Actually, they're a lot older than that. I remember these types of images from 1994.

Stereoscopes were popular in early Victorian times!
08/18/2010 03:07:39 AM · #5
Create your own 3D photos!

Start 3D enables anyone to easily create, share and print 3D photos.

There are two simple ways to do this:

1. Capture two photos, moving your camera 3 inches, and upload both to Start 3D
2. Buy a 3D digital camera, take a stereo photo and upload it to Start 3D.

You can use your existing digital camera and have your first 3D photo up on Start 3D in under 3 minutes!
//www.start3d.com/en/introduction
//www.start3d.com/en/browse

Message edited by author 2010-08-18 03:08:27.
08/18/2010 02:20:51 AM · #6
Originally posted by kirbic:

Originally posted by alanfreed:

My eye doctor has a super old stereogram viewer (1930s?) in his office. Pretty cool thing to check out while waiting for appointments :)


I used to have a co-worker (he worked in the materials lab at one of our sister companies) that had an *old* viewer that was deigned to view two 4x6 inch prints. It was a nice old piece of hardware, and the results could be stunning if the prints were crisp.
Stereograms have been around for a long time, certainly from the first half of the last century.
Thinking about another thread related to panos, it would be *very* cool to do a challenge on stereograms. The same kind of width issues that affect (traditional) panos also affect stereograms; you need twice the width so the 800px limit is restrictive. The voting pool would also be somewhat limited since only those who can view them without assistance would be able to vote. Still, might be a fun "extra" challenge. Might also be a great topic for an informal side challenge...


Why don't you run such a side challenge? I'd definitely be interested in participating.
08/17/2010 06:46:49 PM · #7
Originally posted by Tully:

... I saw a guy with two canon SD400 cameras screwed onto a stick (a DIY project that will cost you under $150 including the cameras)...

Manfrotto has a $150 accessory which adapts a single tripod to give you up to four mounts -- would definitely work if you're using two cameras.
08/17/2010 06:31:32 PM · #8
Originally posted by kirbic:


Stereograms have been around for a long time, certainly from the first half of the last century.


Since 1839, actually...

R.
08/17/2010 06:06:03 PM · #9
The Fuji 3D W1 is said to run around £399 ($600+) for essentially 2 10MP cameras in one. Pretty cool as you can take your 3D pictures as well as taking a wide angle and a close up at the same time. However, I was out taking pictures the other day and I saw a guy with two canon SD400 cameras screwed onto a stick (a DIY project that will cost you under $150 including the cameras)... granted, they're only 5MP but if you're showing these images on an HDTV, 5MP is plenty!
I thought this would be a pretty good project, at least until the hype disappears, leaving whatever remains of the fad at a more reasonable price...
Now just to figure out how to process those images into 3D... any tips?
08/17/2010 05:28:23 PM · #10
Originally posted by coryboehne:

Originally posted by Jac:

Originally posted by Dr.Confuser:

Originally posted by Jac:

Fad!


Hmm ... that's what they said about HDR. In fact, that's what they said about color.


I don't know how old you are Dr. but 3D was a fad in the 50's. Reintroduced in the 60's; fad, again. 70's, 80's and now the 10's are here and we're talking 3D again. Let's talk in 18 months time. :)


And such it will be until a head-gear free solution is found.


Solution found, no head gear at all according to Fuji:
Quote"Innovative technology in the 3D Digital Viewer lets you view 3D images of exceptional image quality without the aid of special glasses - just your eyes."Unquote
//www.fujifilm.com/products/3d/viewer/finepix_real3dv1/features/index.html

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Message edited by author 2010-08-17 17:31:11.
08/17/2010 04:59:12 PM · #11
Originally posted by Jac:

Originally posted by Dr.Confuser:

Originally posted by Jac:

Fad!


Hmm ... that's what they said about HDR. In fact, that's what they said about color.


I don't know how old you are Dr. but 3D was a fad in the 50's. Reintroduced in the 60's; fad, again. 70's, 80's and now the 10's are here and we're talking 3D again. Let's talk in 18 months time. :)


And such it will be until a head-gear free solution is found.
08/17/2010 04:05:50 PM · #12
Originally posted by Dr.Confuser:

Originally posted by Jac:

Fad!


Hmm ... that's what they said about HDR. In fact, that's what they said about color.


I don't know how old you are Dr. but 3D was a fad in the 50's. Reintroduced in the 60's; fad, again. 70's, 80's and now the 10's are here and we're talking 3D again. Let's talk in 18 months time. :)

08/17/2010 02:31:33 PM · #13
3D will never be in my house...

gives me migraines... my husband vertigo... and my mom panic attacks... we are definitely part of the 10%
08/17/2010 02:22:58 PM · #14
Originally posted by Jac:

Fad!


Hmm ... that's what they said about HDR. In fact, that's what they said about color.
08/17/2010 01:33:27 PM · #15
Originally posted by ThingFish:

Myself, I'd be interested in making stereo prints (print pairs), and probably less so in making versions for digital viewing...


Hey, don't despair, as long as you can train yourself to view "cross-eyed" you don't need *any* special equipment for either capturing or displaying stereograms.
08/17/2010 01:23:41 PM · #16
Myself, I'd be interested in making stereo prints (print pairs), and probably less so in making versions for digital viewing, mainly because I will not be upgrading any equipment or software any time soon ... :-(

Same here General. I just recently got myself a mint condition Olympus E1 (downgrading?)and that's gonna have to serve me for the next couple of years.
Ps. Why the :-( instead of :)

Message edited by author 2010-08-17 13:24:31.
08/17/2010 01:16:29 PM · #17
I've heard a couple of recent radio programs concerning stereo photography and 3-D vision. Links below are to program transcripts -- go to the program's home page if you want to download the podcasts.

Brian May discusses stereo photography on Fresh Air:
Originally posted by Show transcript:

(Soundbite of song, "Another One Bites the Dust")

TERRY GROSS: That's the band Queen. My guest, Brian May, is a founding member and the band's lead guitarist. In recent years, he's been concerned with a different kind of dust. Exactly three years ago today, he submitted his doctoral thesis in astrophysics on the subject "A Survey of Radial Velocities in the Zodiacal Dust Cloud." He is now Dr. May, and he's chancellor of Liverpool John Moores University.

But that's not the only twist in his career that would surprise Queen fans. Brian May has also co-written the new book "A Village Lost and Found" that features stereoscopic photos from the 1850s. The pictures were taken by T.R. Williams, one of the first stereo photographers, of the small English village he used to summer in. To see these very early photos in 3-D, you have to assemble and look through a viewer that Brian May designed, which comes with the book.


******************************************************

Do You See What I See? A Scientist's Journey Into 3-D
Originally posted by Show transcript:

It wasn't until my guest, Susan Barry, was in college that she realized she didn't see like other people did. She didn't see in 3-D; her world was only two-dimensional. She didn't have 3-D stereoscopic vision as the result of having developed severely crossed eyes when she was a baby.

Once she comprehended that she was missing something important, she found a developmental optometrist who taught her how to train her eyes to see in 3-D. Susan Barry's success challenged the popular theory that certain aspects of sensory development, including stereoscopic vision, had to be acquired in the first few years of life.


Myself, I'd be interested in making stereo prints (print pairs), and probably less so in making versions for digital viewing, mainly because I will not be upgrading any equipment or software any time soon ... :-(

Message edited by author 2010-08-17 13:17:27.
08/17/2010 12:53:48 PM · #18
I'm ready for anything new & plan to go for it as soon as I can. 3D! yeah! There will soon be new corrective procedures for the 10% with imperfect eyes.

I wonder how interested the porn video industry is in this new, startling, technology?

How will they sell tickets if we can get sports in 3D at home?

Explosions & car crashes on the big screen would be so fun, but exhausting!
08/17/2010 12:51:12 PM · #19
Remember the band Queen? Of course you do...everyone does. Well Brian May from Queen is an enthusiastic stereoscoper. They use what is called the "Owl Viewer" Check out this interesting site they have. The London Stereoscopic Company.
//www.londonstereo.com/index.html

The Owl Viewer
//www.londonstereo.com/stereophotography.html

Message edited by author 2010-08-17 13:04:42.
08/17/2010 12:36:44 PM · #20
Originally posted by alanfreed:

My eye doctor has a super old stereogram viewer (1930s?) in his office. Pretty cool thing to check out while waiting for appointments :)


I used to have a co-worker (he worked in the materials lab at one of our sister companies) that had an *old* viewer that was deigned to view two 4x6 inch prints. It was a nice old piece of hardware, and the results could be stunning if the prints were crisp.
Stereograms have been around for a long time, certainly from the first half of the last century.
Thinking about another thread related to panos, it would be *very* cool to do a challenge on stereograms. The same kind of width issues that affect (traditional) panos also affect stereograms; you need twice the width so the 800px limit is restrictive. The voting pool would also be somewhat limited since only those who can view them without assistance would be able to vote. Still, might be a fun "extra" challenge. Might also be a great topic for an informal side challenge...
08/17/2010 11:56:19 AM · #21
My eye doctor has a super old stereogram viewer (1930s?) in his office. Pretty cool thing to check out while waiting for appointments :)

Originally posted by SaraR:

Originally posted by Louis:

Originally posted by fridjo:

stereograms were here already five years ago, this one is meant for cross-eyed viewing:

Actually, they're a lot older than that. I remember these types of images from 1994.

Stereoscopes were popular in early Victorian times!
08/17/2010 11:55:54 AM · #22
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

Originally posted by mike_311:

you have to wear the glasses :)

Umm, this is WITH the glasses.

I read or heard a survey somewhere recently that about 10% of the population has minor eye issues that makes 3-D viewing difficult. That would be a significant portion of the population they would be put off by this. Would they make enough additional revenue from 3-D to make it worth alienating 10% of the potential market?


it was a joke.

08/17/2010 11:31:56 AM · #23
Originally posted by SaraR:

Originally posted by Louis:

Originally posted by fridjo:

stereograms were here already five years ago, this one is meant for cross-eyed viewing:

Actually, they're a lot older than that. I remember these types of images from 1994.

Stereoscopes were popular in early Victorian times!

Not the digital kind. ;-)
08/17/2010 11:30:28 AM · #24
Originally posted by Louis:

Originally posted by fridjo:

stereograms were here already five years ago, this one is meant for cross-eyed viewing:

Actually, they're a lot older than that. I remember these types of images from 1994.

Stereoscopes were popular in early Victorian times!
08/17/2010 11:16:16 AM · #25
Originally posted by fridjo:

stereograms were here already five years ago, this one is meant for cross-eyed viewing:

Actually, they're a lot older than that. I remember these types of images from 1994.
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