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08/10/2010 11:55:42 AM · #1 |
SFW is always permitted, don't worry about that one :)
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08/10/2010 11:33:26 AM · #2 |
Originally posted by pixelpig:
So, I read the rules & all of this thread & I still have a question about Save for Web. It's not listed as an edit we MAY do. It's not in the MAY NOT list either. I think that means you have the get it under 300MB during the Save As. Right?
[eta] This sounds like a great opportunity to use your phone camera! |
I hope not.. - I interpreted SFW as not being an editing tool, but rather a file tool.. I might well be wrong though...
Clarification please :)
Message edited by author 2010-08-10 11:35:01. |
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08/10/2010 11:27:31 AM · #3 |
So, I read the rules & all of this thread & I still have a question about Save for Web. It's not listed as an edit we MAY do. It's not in the MAY NOT list either. I think that means you have the get it under 300MB during the Save As. Right?
[eta] This sounds like a great opportunity to use your phone camera!
Message edited by author 2010-08-10 11:28:41. |
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08/10/2010 05:41:05 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by Magnum_za:
OK Never mind...You may not use the RAW at all, in any way or form, even if you've shot both RAW and JPG. |
Correct. It HAS to be in .jpg format at the time of capture with no user intervention ie. manual conversion from RAW to JPG by user in camera or with software. RAW is out...period.
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08/10/2010 05:03:07 AM · #5 |
| OK Never mind...You may not use the RAW at all, in any way or form, even if you've shot both RAW and JPG. |
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08/10/2010 04:53:28 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Originally posted by Magnum_za:
Does that mean that I cannot use my photo application that reads RAW images to "Save As" JPG? |
That would be correct. You may not. RAW is out. No RAW. RAW. |
Hey ART, excuse me if I sound stupid. The camera shoots a RAW image, and depending on your settings, saves this as either RAW, JPG or both. If I open the RAW image on the camera on the SDHC card and still use the camera to do the conversion to JPG as it would have done at the time of shooting, surely this is 6 of one/half a dozen of the other. The camera is doing the conversion, not my PC photo application. |
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08/10/2010 04:43:49 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by Magnum_za:
Does that mean that I cannot use my photo application that reads RAW images to "Save As" JPG? |
That would be correct. You may not. RAW is out. No RAW. RAW. |
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08/10/2010 03:56:51 AM · #8 |
I have a shot that I can enter. Problem is I didn't shoot it RAW + JPG simultaneously. Can I take my RAW image and convert it in camera to a JPG and submit that?
EDIT to add:
You may not:
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Use a RAW original or RAW conversion software. You may shoot in RAW+JPG mode, provided you use the JPG original to create your entry.
Does that mean that I cannot use my photo application that reads RAW images to "Save As" JPG?
Message edited by author 2010-08-10 03:58:53. |
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08/09/2010 11:15:02 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by giantmike:
Originally posted by charliebaker:
"You may fully desaturate your image using your editing software’s “desaturate,” “convert to grayscale” or equivalent function."
Can someone help explain to me if this would allow converting to sepia?
Thanks.
Charliebaker |
The way I read it, no. To me, the following rule under You May Not clears this up:
You may not adjust hue or saturation, adjust or eliminate individual color channels, or use the Channel Mixer or any equivalent tool, except for the most basic black and white conversion as allowed above. |
If you take the photo with your camera on a sepia setting so it's that way out of the camera it's legal, but otherwise no...it's not legal to convert to sepia. |
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08/09/2010 07:43:29 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by charliebaker:
"You may fully desaturate your image using your editing software’s “desaturate,” “convert to grayscale” or equivalent function."
Can someone help explain to me if this would allow converting to sepia?
Thanks.
Charliebaker |
The way I read it, no. To me, the following rule under You May Not clears this up:
You may not adjust hue or saturation, adjust or eliminate individual color channels, or use the Channel Mixer or any equivalent tool, except for the most basic black and white conversion as allowed above. |
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08/09/2010 07:41:21 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by karmat:
Be careful with sharpening. ... |
You mean resizing? |
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08/09/2010 06:43:40 PM · #12 |
"You may fully desaturate your image using your editing software’s “desaturate,” “convert to grayscale” or equivalent function."
Can someone help explain to me if this would allow converting to sepia?
Thanks.
Charliebaker |
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08/09/2010 03:15:05 PM · #13 |
| Thanks for the quick response. Wish it was a TILTED challenge! |
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08/09/2010 03:08:27 PM · #14 |
nevermind, saw the post above.
Message edited by author 2010-08-09 15:09:38. |
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08/09/2010 03:00:36 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by klkitchens:
Question...
YOU MAY
use any feature of your camera while photographing your entry, with the exception of combining multiple captures in-camera.
While photographing implies "while taking the photo"
However if the camera allows you to process a raw image into a JPG, is that a feature that is allowed? It then produces a JPG that comes "straight from the camera", but you could rotate, crop, etc... in-camera. |
See the following.
Originally posted by minimal editing rules:
Minimal Editing is intended as a “straight from the camera” test of skill, and allows only the adjustments essential to convert your original image into a form acceptable for submission on DPChallenge. Most editing tools are not permitted under these rules. Restrictions on post-processing apply to ALL edits performed after the image is captured, whether on a computer or with in-camera tools. |
That seems clear enough, so the answer is "No."
R. |
It does seem clear enough and had I read farther, I would never have needed to ask. |
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08/09/2010 02:47:16 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by klkitchens:
Question...
YOU MAY
use any feature of your camera while photographing your entry, with the exception of combining multiple captures in-camera.
While photographing implies "while taking the photo"
However if the camera allows you to process a raw image into a JPG, is that a feature that is allowed? It then produces a JPG that comes "straight from the camera", but you could rotate, crop, etc... in-camera. |
See the following.
Originally posted by minimal editing rules:
Minimal Editing is intended as a “straight from the camera” test of skill, and allows only the adjustments essential to convert your original image into a form acceptable for submission on DPChallenge. Most editing tools are not permitted under these rules. Restrictions on post-processing apply to ALL edits performed after the image is captured, whether on a computer or with in-camera tools. |
That seems clear enough, so the answer is "No."
R.
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08/09/2010 02:44:45 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
You can rotate 90, 180 and 270 degrees. I am sure this is only to allow for holding the camera in a different orientation. So holding the camera straight is critical to this challenge. |
No kidding. Since I was tripod-less on vacation, and since I was shooting bracketed JPGs to nail the exposure, and since I had to be sure to have a correctly-exposed shot that was also squared up, I ended up with a LOT variations on each of several views, where with RAW processing I'd only have one per :-) And then I did them all RAW+JPG, just in case any turned out to be world-class images (they didn't) so I gotta lot of chaff in with the wheat, folks :-)
I did, however, manage one that was both properly exposed and all squared up :-)
R.
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08/09/2010 02:43:15 PM · #18 |
I don't think so. It says only one resizing. Which I take to mean resize for dpchallenge. Rotating resizes the image...
Hopefully someone from the SC will confirm or clarify this.
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08/09/2010 02:41:40 PM · #19 |
Question...
YOU MAY
use any feature of your camera while photographing your entry, with the exception of combining multiple captures in-camera.
While photographing implies "while taking the photo"
However if the camera allows you to process a raw image into a JPG, is that a feature that is allowed? It then produces a JPG that comes "straight from the camera", but you could rotate, crop, etc... in-camera.
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08/09/2010 02:38:27 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by doremi:
I just entered my photo in the UNDER challenge. I stupidly thought it was a basic editing challenge... guess I have to remove my entry & try again! After reading through the minimal editing rules, I'm not sure if I can straighten a photo. I tend to think that it would not be allowed... any ideas?
Thanks |
Minimal only allows rotation of multiples of 90 degrees, so you can't even straighten it.
I was going to use Microsoft Paint to edit my shot to be safe I didn't do anything stupid :)
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08/09/2010 02:38:05 PM · #21 |
Well  Yo_Spiff beat me to it, but just barely :)
Message edited by author 2010-08-09 14:38:59. |
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08/09/2010 02:37:56 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by doremi:
I'm not sure if I can straighten a photo. I tend to think that it would not be allowed... any ideas?
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No, you cannot for these rules. You can rotate 90, 180 and 270 degrees. I am sure this is only to allow for holding the camera in a different orientation. So holding the camera straight is critical to this challenge. |
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08/09/2010 02:34:39 PM · #23 |
I just entered my photo in the UNDER challenge. I stupidly thought it was a basic editing challenge... guess I have to remove my entry & try again! After reading through the minimal editing rules, I'm not sure if I can straighten a photo. I tend to think that it would not be allowed... any ideas?
Thanks |
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08/08/2010 05:25:51 PM · #24 |
Apologies if this has already been addressed as I haven't read the thread, but it says we can make adjustments in-camera, apart from multiple overlays. Does this mean we can use in-camera pp, like d-lighting and straighten?OK ignore this, just saw first post on this thread so it answers my question.
Message edited by author 2010-08-08 17:27:25. |
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08/08/2010 03:58:50 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by NiallOTuama:
Does Lightroom 2's clarity slider break these rules? |
Yes. Clarity is not Sharpen. It's an illegal midtone contrast adjustment. |
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