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07/10/2002 01:26:33 PM · #1 |
Perhaps I'm taking your statement a little to an extreme, but I disagree with your comment to some extent. But I won't go into that here -- I did start a thread a couple of days ago called Titles Redux if anybody wants to continue that discussion.
Originally posted by Guillermo:
What troubles me in this challenge and in past challenges is the need to explain the picture with a descriptive title. Any picture that is a good picture should need no explanation.
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07/10/2002 01:04:30 PM · #2 |
What troubles me in this challenge and in past challenges is the need to explain the picture with a descriptive title. Any picture that is a good picture should need no explanation.
Originally posted by Zeissman:
I am having a hard time judging this challenge.
Do I knock down the spider shots for lack of originality? What if spiders do not scare me?
Most of my favorite photos have little do to with the challenge. I really do not think that wild animals doing there thing has anything to do with fear. No fear really does not meet the challenge to my mind either.
What is everyone else doing?
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07/10/2002 02:12:26 AM · #3 |
| But, of course, a US-centrist image... |
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07/10/2002 01:57:06 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
I had thought of this for the FEAR challenge, but decided to go with another topic altogther. Watching my score gradually-but steadily falling has made me think I might have chosen the wrong one...
OOooooo, That is scary. |
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07/10/2002 12:42:23 AM · #5 |
| I had thought of this for the FEAR challenge, but decided to go with another topic altogther. Watching my score gradually-but steadily falling has made me think I might have chosen the wrong one... |
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07/09/2002 11:11:02 PM · #6 |
| Ohhh, I just had an idea I wish I had shot. A todler staring up at one of those giant Spiderman posters. eeek aelith |
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07/09/2002 09:53:45 PM · #7 |
I was thinking a lot today about the arguements we have had in this thread, and how to best illustrate my point, and I came up with what could have been a great shot.
Taking a photo of something that may scare you, do not tell the viewer what your fear is. It needs to be implied, not inferred.
Example, taking a picture of two wedding rings arranged together, and a title, "fear of commitment", is just playing upon a cliche to get your emotion across.
But arranging the rings in the foreground, with a pair of handcuffs in the same arrangement in the background, gives the viewer a look into your fear. Or using a ghost image of a ball and chain attached to one of the rings.
What do y'll think?
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07/09/2002 09:12:38 PM · #8 |
I'm having a good laugh at the commenters on mine. They are seeing what is shown and not what is implied which is the larger fear.
The spider pictures are interesting but most are too distant to be scary.
The picture of the mountain goat ambushed me. I have a fear of heights. My first thought was Postcard. Then my hands started sweating.
I'm also afaid of fearless people. I anticipate the fear thay SHOULD be feeling like falling down on concreat. ouch!
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07/09/2002 08:07:39 PM · #9 |
I'm guilty of one of those spider shot. I was seriously thinking of calling the photo Y.A.S.P. But then I would have looked like a dork, if nobody else would have submitted a spider. :)
I used the spider shot for 2 reasons: 1) Spiders of this size are extremely rare around here, and 2) It worked on arachnophobic people which I used as a test subjects. ;)
J.
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07/09/2002 07:44:33 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by miller:
Ugh... I''m getting ripped apart here lol. 3.5 isn''t really what I was looking for in this one. I don''t think most of the viewers are spending the time to figure out what my pic is. It''s not as obvious as most entries and I think that''s what''s hurting me the most. Also, technically it''s not what people are used to and most seem not to understand why it is the way it is. But it makes perfect sense to me! Oh well... at least some people get it so it''s not impossible. :)
Mine too, well almost, mine''s 3.9 :-/
* This message has been edited by the author on 7/9/2002 7:45:30 PM.
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07/09/2002 04:25:17 PM · #11 |
some of the funnier photos were the best "especially the mouse"
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07/09/2002 04:16:21 PM · #12 |
| When I read a long thread like this one, sometimes I feel that a lot of you take this site WAY too seriously. I thought that the fear challenge was going to be a fun one and I took a picture that I thought was "fun" and would represent "fear" to a lot of people. It was a light-hearted, fun photo that is going to give me my lowest score on here ever. I can tell that some other people tried just as hard to have fun with this challenge as I did. And, I suspect they will have low scores as well. I hope we all try and lighten up a little bit more on here someday. Anyway, those are my thoughts...carry on.... |
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07/09/2002 03:23:02 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by Shiiizzzam:
Originally posted by chariot:
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The problem I'm having is what do I do with pictures title such as "Fearless" or "No Fear". The challenge was FEAR not LACK OF FEAR!!!! How the hell do I rate these?!
I know what you mean. I felt the same way. It's about FEAR not lack of.
So I did the same as the ones the titles were their only hope..I voted what I thought the challenge was and per the rules:)
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Maybe we can look back at FDR's "Nothing to fear except fear itself." Is it possible that hose photographs showing a lack of fear are really showing a strong face of someone afreaid to be fearful of something?
Now I'm fearful that this comment may have rambled a bit.
-Steve |
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07/09/2002 02:52:29 PM · #14 |
| wenyao, a lot of people don't like it when you give your entry away before the challenge is over. |
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07/09/2002 02:45:47 PM · #15 |
oh, btw the photo was inverted using the Photoshop Invert command, which was cleared by the organisers as it was applied to the whole image and not spot-editing.
Wenyao |
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07/09/2002 02:29:14 PM · #16 |
some of us here have commented what's the black stuff at the bottom of my entry "Examination Fear...", well, it's just an opened book.
My explanation was the "fear of examinations", which I was inspired by when studying for my own examinations during summer school, so I asked my friend to pose for me. I took a sequence of shots :
Fear Album and I thought that I would submit the entry with the book at the bottom as that would convey the message of fear of studying, or fear of examinations the best. Hopefully, that'll be a clearer explanation for the rest of us voting.
Best regards,
Wenyao |
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07/09/2002 01:54:22 PM · #17 |
| Ugh... I'm getting ripped apart here lol. 3.5 isn't really what I was looking for in this one. I don't think most of the viewers are spending the time to figure out what my pic is. It's not as obvious as most entries and I think that's what's hurting me the most. Also, technically it's not what people are used to and most seem not to understand why it is the way it is. But it makes perfect sense to me! Oh well... at least some people get it so it's not impossible. :) |
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07/09/2002 01:03:54 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by sheyingshi88:
A snapshot doesn't have to convey a message, a photograph does.
This could be a whole new agruement, I mean discussion topic.
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07/09/2002 12:46:47 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by Zeissman:
If a photo supposed to communicate something to the viewer, and does not convey it's message, is it a successful photograph?
I say no. Now, I am not saying all photographs have to have messages, but...
A snapshot doesn't have to convey a message, a photograph does.
My criteria is how well did the photographer convey his or her message technically and artistically. I couldn't care less if what scares that person doesn't bother me. |
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07/09/2002 12:45:42 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Maybe a title like "Facing Fear" or "Overcoming Fear" would have helped people see how a "negative" image could relate to the topic.
Actually I thought about that, but I'm no friend of titles which are too direct and prod people to the meaning. If the viewer is not willing to think a while about the photo then that's sad.
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07/09/2002 12:25:43 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by stephan:
Originally posted by chariot:
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The problem I'm having is what do I do with pictures title such as "Fearless" or "No Fear". The challenge was FEAR not LACK OF FEAR!!!! How the hell do I rate these?!
...showing the intended absence of something is totally valid for me, thus I submitted a photo of someone being not afraid of doing someting. Never thought that this would be a question.
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Maybe a title like "Facing Fear" or "Overcoming Fear" would have helped people see how a "negative" image could relate to the topic. |
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07/09/2002 12:21:49 PM · #22 |
I wonder how much the quality of entries is affected by the fact that this was a holiday week in the US? It seems that a lot of people did not have much time.
I am reading a lot of these arguements, and it seems like a lot of people actually feel the same way, but are expressing it differently
I can only vote on a photo based on how it affects me, how well I think it was shot, the amount of effort put into it, and it's creativity.
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07/09/2002 12:10:12 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by Jenguin:
I submitted something very last minute and now i'm paying for it. It was poorly done and apparently everyone else thinks so too.
This is basically the boat I'm in. I did a lot of traveling last week and then when I came back, I had relatives in town that I had to entertain all weekend, so there was no time to really do any of the serious ideas I had in mind.
But I did have a grab shot I took in Salem, MA, where I was last week that seemed to fit. (Mine was of something intended to be 'scary').
Unfortunately, I was using a lesser camera than my usual, and when I used a 100% crop from the photo, the graininess and poor optics of this camera's imager were painfully apparent. However, I didn't think people really cared as much about that; now I realize that they really do : ) . .
This is my worst scoring photo ever : ).. oh well, i'm sure I'll live.
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07/09/2002 12:05:34 PM · #24 |
Youguys think this one was hard to judge, wait till you have to judge the open challange!..hee hee cant wait...
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07/09/2002 12:01:38 PM · #25 |
I feel like everyone has a fear of something weither its a spider or the cops..All photos reflect on some sort of fear..May be I missed the point too..I dont have a fear of bulls, but maybe the bull has a fear of me..I will agree this one was a tough one to judge..You have to look at the photo more then one way..but I still enjoy it..
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