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03/06/2010 10:56:44 AM · #26 |
| I bet if you drop a refrigerated ladybug into water, it will be very sad. |
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03/06/2010 11:55:10 AM · #27 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
I bet if you drop a refrigerated ladybug into water, it will be very sad. |
lol |
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03/06/2010 01:06:10 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I am so ready to impress with my waterdrop/lady bug shot! resize, sat +50, border, BAM! |
Crap. Now I gotta go re-shoot or they'll think I'm you. |
OMG. We have GOT to get you out of California. |
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03/06/2010 06:49:14 PM · #29 |
| .....another reason to look forward to this challenge. Now I want to reshoot! |
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03/06/2010 07:42:55 PM · #30 |
| I'm dazed and confused ... if every subjectmatter is goin' to be pre-qualified. what's the purpose? Does fine arts photography have a precondition? I'm confused! Maybe I should enter something convoluted. |
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03/06/2010 08:57:52 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by blad:
I'm dazed and confused ... if every subjectmatter is goin' to be pre-qualified. what's the purpose? Does fine arts photography have a precondition? I'm confused! Maybe I should enter something convoluted. |
The definition is not clear, it's one of those "I know it when I see it" things, I suppose. I figure if it is something I can envision being displayed on a wall as art, then it fits. That may be a freestudy to some. Confused is appropriate. I suspect the scores thread discussions for this one will be even more polarized than the last HDR challenge. |
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03/06/2010 10:45:52 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by blad:
I'm dazed and confused ... if every subjectmatter is goin' to be pre-qualified. what's the purpose? Does fine arts photography have a precondition? I'm confused! Maybe I should enter something convoluted. |
Louis,
look at it this way (I'm just gonna… hammer this out, straight from the horse's mouth): pretty pitchers 's not gonna cut it. You can get those inna card shop. Now,
some pieces may well be pleasing to look at, but I'll bet there'll be a bit of a stretch to 'em too. I mean, how long, how often can you look at a shot of the sun going down, when the real sun is so much better an experience. The best any skilled photographer can do with that kind of shot is to try match what is already there, in more than two dimensions. Thus the "stretch", the need for one.
Imagine you had some spare white walls somewhere and you wanted to hang some pictures you could stand to look at for, say, the rest of your life. Wouldn't you want each of those images to tax as many senses as possible, to have a little "range", so to say, so you won't grow tired of 'em inna month or a year?
I think when you feel compelled to create stuff that doesn't wear out an interest for a while, you kinda need to create a little world or a tiny corner of it, something that can give us a sense of how nature (of which we are a humble part anyway) goes about its business. And what better way than to do that ourselves, out of ourselves, as the very unique individuals we are, listening, looking, comparing, testing, replacing, discarding, thinking, unthinking, feeling, sensing (all things we are perfectly designed to do), until we have something that rings true, that we "recognize" as equal to, that tree, this hand, the way the old sun goes about business every day afresh and use, use, use that the way the wind uses umbrellas.
There it is then, this thing we have made in an instant or a series of instants during which we managed pay attention, eyes and mouth open, simply because we chose to forget ourselves over, say, no more than a bucket of sand that doesn't look out of place in your kid's sandbox. And we "know" how it came to be so, coz we was there every living second, heart, mind and hand, in that instant, with reverence and every fibre of our being. We know,
it is what it is, because we, ourselves, "are".
Message edited by author 2010-03-06 22:47:02. |
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03/06/2010 10:55:54 PM · #33 |
this guy,  zeuszen has mad skills with rhetoric!
Originally posted by zeuszen:
Louis,
look at it this way (I'm just gonna… hammer this out, straight from the horse's mouth): pretty pitchers 's not gonna cut it. You can get those inna card shop. Now,
some pieces may well be pleasing to look at, but I'll bet there'll be a bit of a stretch to 'em too. I mean, how long, how often can you look at a shot of the sun going down, when the real sun is so much better an experience. The best any skilled photographer can do with that kind of shot is to try match what is already there, in more than two dimensions. Thus the "stretch", the need for one.
Imagine you had some spare white walls somewhere and you wanted to hang some pictures you could stand to look at for, say, the rest of your life. Wouldn't you want each of those images to tax as many senses as possible, to have a little "range", so to say, so you won't grow tired of 'em inna month or a year?
I think when you feel compelled to create stuff that doesn't wear out an interest for a while, you kinda need to create a little world or a tiny corner of it, something that can give us a sense of how nature (of which we are a humble part anyway) goes about its business. And what better way than to do that ourselves, out of ourselves, as the very unique individuals we are, listening, looking, comparing, testing, replacing, discarding, thinking, unthinking, feeling, sensing (all things we are perfectly designed to do), until we have something that rings true, that we "recognize" as equal to, that tree, this hand, the way the old sun goes about business every day afresh and use, use, use that the way the wind uses umbrellas.
There it is then, this thing we have made in an instant or a series of instants during which we managed pay attention, eyes and mouth open, simply because we chose to forget ourselves over, say, no more than a bucket of sand that doesn't look out of place in your kid's sandbox. And we "know" how it came to be so, coz we was there every living second, heart, mind and hand, in that instant, with reverence and every fibre of our being. We know,
it is what it is, because we, ourselves, "are". |
Message edited by author 2010-03-06 22:58:35. |
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03/07/2010 01:07:26 AM · #34 |
| Hmm, well, I got something, but I'm a bit hesitant to enter it. It isn't "what the judges will be looking for", but on the other hand, it's quite me. If you know ahead of time that you aren't what the judges are looking for, is it worthwhile? :P |
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03/07/2010 01:27:07 AM · #35 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
If you know ahead of time that you aren't what the judges are looking for, is it worthwhile? :P |
If your only motivation for entering is to win, then maybe it's not worthwhile, but I think there maybe other benefits to be had in this challenge. Not sure what they are, but I'm sure it will garner a bit more attention than some of the more recent challenges. |
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03/07/2010 02:16:26 AM · #36 |
i'm so looking forward to this challenge. there's too much hype and talk about it now that it's interesting how entries will turn out. just waiting for my pre-validation :DD
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03/07/2010 10:16:56 AM · #37 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Hmm, well, I got something, but I'm a bit hesitant to enter it. It isn't "what the judges will be looking for", but on the other hand, it's quite me. If you know ahead of time that you aren't what the judges are looking for, is it worthwhile? :P |
If you aren't what the voters are looking for then you know you haven't been and you obviously don't care anyway so go ahead and enter.
That's where I am.
Oops... okay, so I just noticed that your Avg Vote Received is 6.4102! Wow... so maybe one little blemish wouldn't dent that too much but, judging from your track record, it probably won't work out that way anyhow!
I think everyone should enter - I'm nervous too, but I'm going for it because I want to see what happens. I'm hoping this will add a new dimension around here.
Message edited by author 2010-03-07 11:06:28. |
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03/07/2010 11:01:54 AM · #38 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Hmm, well, I got something, but I'm a bit hesitant to enter it. It isn't "what the judges will be looking for", but on the other hand, it's quite me. If you know ahead of time that you aren't what the judges are looking for, is it worthwhile? :P |
Don't forget about those *other* ribbons... |
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03/07/2010 12:56:57 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
If you know ahead of time that you aren't what the judges are looking for, is it worthwhile? :P |
Absolutely! I have had many low scoring entries that I consider successes because they hit their target audience or achieved what I was after in some way. Besides, a high 5 is a bomb for you, a score that most of us are pleased with. I say to enter the risky shot. Live on the edge.
I also have a suspicion that the popular vote and judging are going to be way different from each other.
Message edited by author 2010-03-07 12:57:09. |
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03/07/2010 01:25:47 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
I also have a suspicion that the popular vote and judging are going to be way different from each other. |
I would bet big money on that one, particularly when one looks at some of the judges on the panel. (I say this with the greatest of respect)
The interpretation and perception of this judges will (in my opinion differ substantially from that of the general voting population.
Ray
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03/07/2010 01:33:04 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by RayEthier:
The interpretation and perception of this judges will (in my opinion differ substantially from that of the general voting population.
Ray |
I sure hope so! :) I think it will be most interesting to see how things turn out. Looking forward to viewing and voting this one.
Message edited by author 2010-03-07 13:34:12. |
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03/07/2010 01:56:38 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by salmiakki:
I sure hope so! :) I think it will be most interesting to see how things turn out. Looking forward to viewing and voting this one. |
I agree, being a juried challenge and with a subject matter of fine arts....now that's what brought me out of my hiatus. The score is incidental |
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03/07/2010 02:00:59 PM · #43 |
People should remember that this challenge is unique in DPC history. I'm amazed there aren't more entries, myself. Look at it this way:
1. The whole idea of "fine art" (whatever that is) pretty much runs contrary to the DPC voters' mindset, as they prefer mass-appeal art, by and large.
2. These same voters are, as always, going to be handing out the ribbons; expect "DPC-safe fine art" to take the ribbons, though I could be wrong on this.
3. But then there are the JUDGES, and we are giving out prizes too, and I am pretty sure we will NOT be rewarding "DPC-safe" imagery on our side of the divide.
So add all this together and you have this unique opportunity to score from both sides of the aisle. And, dare I say, the amazing, if remote, possibility that the same image might win both the popular and the juried segments of the challenge!
Whatta hoot! Everyone ought to be in this one!
R.
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03/07/2010 02:16:24 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
If you know ahead of time that you aren't what the judges are looking for, is it worthwhile? :P |
Absolutely! I have had many low scoring entries that I consider successes because they hit their target audience or achieved what I was after in some way. Besides, a high 5 is a bomb for you, a score that most of us are pleased with. I say to enter the risky shot. Live on the edge.
I also have a suspicion that the popular vote and judging are going to be way different from each other. |
I guess what I'm trying to decide is not whether to enter it, but where to enter it. I could use it for Free Study as well. Normally I tend to avoid a challenge like this because the winner will undoubtedly be a low score (well, I guess there is a remote chance it won't) because the interpretation of "fine art" will be so varied. One person's 10 is another person's 1. The difference and appeal of this challenge is that it's juried, but I think the jury will pass by my shot without saying much. See my dilemma? :)
At the end, I'll probably enter it and hope it gets more exposure (and detailed comments) for being in a small challenge than the FS (also I have the whole month to get another FS shot).
Message edited by author 2010-03-07 14:17:02. |
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03/07/2010 02:49:15 PM · #45 |
Bear, I am fully expecting this challenge to be a hoot - it is already a hoot, AND I can think of at least five people who might pull off both blue ribbons.
It would be great to see something like this continue. The discussion brought up many points to take off from... At least I THINK there is a play between words and images. |
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03/07/2010 03:14:22 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
People should remember that this challenge is unique in DPC history. I'm amazed there aren't more entries, myself. Look at it this way:
1. The whole idea of "fine art" (whatever that is) pretty much runs contrary to the DPC voters' mindset, as they prefer mass-appeal art, by and large.
2. These same voters are, as always, going to be handing out the ribbons; expect "DPC-safe fine art" to take the ribbons, though I could be wrong on this.
3. But then there are the JUDGES, and we are giving out prizes too, and I am pretty sure we will NOT be rewarding "DPC-safe" imagery on our side of the divide.
So add all this together and you have this unique opportunity to score from both sides of the aisle. And, dare I say, the amazing, if remote, possibility that the same image might win both the popular and the juried segments of the challenge!
Whatta hoot! Everyone ought to be in this one!
R. |
OR what keeps me up at night, what if my image bombs both in the DPC score AND the jury? ;-) |
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03/07/2010 03:50:46 PM · #47 |
Well, I'm in and I really have no idea how it will be received by the voters or by the jury - really none at all. I do love the image but I'd be lying if I found that nobody else did.
So excited to see all of the images though!! |
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03/07/2010 04:06:50 PM · #48 |
| I'm in. If I can do it, anybody can. |
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03/07/2010 04:42:56 PM · #49 |
| I didn't get anything along the lines of what I'd like to have shot but I did get something I'm reasonably pleased with. I suspect it will not wow either the voters or the judges but perhaps end up middling on both counts. Vanilla "fine art" if you will. And oh but for the cobbles (snow covered at that!) of my old haunts... |
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03/07/2010 04:56:59 PM · #50 |
Originally posted by scarbrd:
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OR what keeps me up at night, what if my image bombs both in the DPC score AND the jury? ;-) |
That would be me. BUT, I like my shot. Not sure if it is even considered "fine art" in the truest of definitions (which reminds me of the golden ring on the carousel --- some may grasp it, but most will not), but it's in, and, as I said, I like it. :P |
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