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03/05/2006 10:55:54 AM · #1
I have Maxell +r discs rated to 8x... What happens if I burn at 12x?
03/05/2006 11:05:58 AM · #2
They may or may not be readable, or may have excessive error rates, or may not have as long a life... or perhaps you won't be able to tell the difference. Bottom line, they're just not tested to that write speed, and the dyes and construction used may or may not be up to it.
03/05/2006 11:07:57 AM · #3
How can I tell if there'll be a problem, short of looking at every picture from a 4 month period?
03/05/2006 11:11:23 AM · #4
when you do a burn... have the software do a data verification, which means it compares the disk, byte for byte, with the source on the hard drive. If the disk passes then it should be a complete and proper backup, if it fails then it is not...
Some times a 8x disk will write fine at 12x, sometimes not, the safest thing to do is have the software do a speed test for every burn, and to burn at the disks rated speed, and verify.
Granted, that takes longer than just dropping a disk in and burning, but it is the safest and surest way...
03/05/2006 11:14:48 AM · #5
There are programs that can evaluate the burned DVD. I'm not an expert on DVDs but I know someone who is. If you do enough research on the web you will find it. My understanding is that -r is just as good for photos. Verbatim is highly rated. Noway would I burn faster than its rated maybe slower.

Tim
03/05/2006 11:26:03 AM · #6
It's also possible that the disc could not be structurally sound at that write speed, and the combination of rotation speed and heat could cause the disc to shatter.

Although this is very unlikely, it's probably best to lower the speed when writing. Most writing software has a setting for this.

~Terry
03/05/2006 11:27:21 AM · #7
Originally posted by TooCool:

I have Maxell +r discs rated to 8x... What happens if I burn at 12x?


I don't think software will let you. It'll match the speed of the disk if you set it too high.

Nick
03/05/2006 11:27:36 AM · #8
I tend to always burn mine slower than maximum of the drive, whether the disk can burn faster or not. I've just always been of the impression that you get a more reliable burn with less chance of errors. I always use Verbatim disks too because I have always found they work best for me.
03/05/2006 11:56:54 AM · #9
Originally posted by Nikolai1024:

Originally posted by TooCool:

I have Maxell +r discs rated to 8x... What happens if I burn at 12x?


I don't think software will let you. It'll match the speed of the disk if you set it too high.

Nick


Nero will or I wouldn't be asking. :-P

I ran Nero's scan disk and everything was green. Does that mean the data is good or just the disc? Should I reburn it to be safe? I've never worked with DVD's before....
03/05/2006 12:02:24 PM · #10
I was told once that the disc rating was an indication of quality control. The faster it spins, the more it wobbles. Higher rated discs are more balanced. That said, I have the same discs you have. My DVD writer tops out at 4x, but if I write higher than 2x, my discs are prone to write errors or even failure.
03/05/2006 05:11:01 PM · #11
If you have a Lite-On drive KProbe will test the disk quite thoroughly. Results can be a bit intimidating though.

David
03/06/2006 10:19:23 AM · #12
You may also consider the target use of your disc. I generally don't ever burn DVDs over 4X, no matter what they are rated for, as I find if I'm doing video, stand alone DVD players have way more problems reading discs that have been burned faster, even if a DVD-ROM drive can read it fine.
03/06/2006 11:03:04 AM · #13
I recently did a DVD slideshow with music. I found that I had to lower my burn speed to 4x in order to get consistent results at the highest quality settings. IMO there is not much point in trying to burn fast. It is only a few minutes difference.
03/06/2006 11:32:17 AM · #14
Originally posted by colema19:

You may also consider the target use of your disc. I generally don't ever burn DVDs over 4X, no matter what they are rated for, as I find if I'm doing video, stand alone DVD players have way more problems reading discs that have been burned faster, even if a DVD-ROM drive can read it fine.


Now there's a take-away here... the stand-alone players have much cheaper "guts" than high-speed read/write devices, since they don't have to write, and generally have to read at lower speeds. If they are having trouble reading the data, it's likely the data is written more poorly. Even if the disc is readable initially, as it ages the data will become less readable, and a less-well-written disc will become unreadable sooner.
I'm with the "slow-burn" crowd on this... your data integrity is far more valuable than the few extra minutes it takes to burn slower. FWIW, I don't use DVD (or CD for that matter) for archiving; I use external hard drives. Backups can happen unattended (NO time investment from me), and it's just as easy to move one drive off-site periodically as it is to store DVDs off site.
03/06/2006 12:02:55 PM · #15
I burn all my DVD's at 4x. It seems that you get far more errors if you burn faster even if your discs are rated at a higher speed. It may take more time, but you don't have to be there while it's burning. I usually just set mine to go and find something else to do in the mean time. I personally use Memorex 8x discs for all my burning needs.

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