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05/04/2005 11:05:42 AM · #26 |
| Well, I've learned not to include power lines in my shots ever again (lol), as 100% of the comments I got were about "how distracting the power line was"... |
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05/04/2005 11:10:23 AM · #27 |
edit: I deleted my rant. I'm over it. Sorry.
I had many wonderful comments and a very nice finish. I really appreciate the 3 favorites. :D
Message edited by author 2005-05-06 09:08:56.
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05/04/2005 11:15:40 AM · #28 |
I learned two things. If you want to do well, you must:
A) not use any creatures that people may not like, since many can't get past a personal dislike and get on with judging a PHOTO.
B) make sure that even the thumbnail looks good for all those people that vote as soon as the voting bar is up and never actually SEE the whole photo.
My photo was very blah as a thumbnail, but much better full size.
(I had a better one of that spider, but was worried that it was getting too big for this particular challenge).
I know it still has room for improvement, but look at the difference between commentors, overall, and no camera.
A good deal of the very low scores must have been because of the thumbnail issue.
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05/04/2005 11:17:24 AM · #29 |
Crop, crop, crop...
"When in doubt crop it out!" |
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05/04/2005 11:19:55 AM · #30 |
Originally posted by theSaj:
Crop, crop, crop...
"When in doubt crop it out!" |
Not THAT easy with the minimalist challenge... cropping makes the rest bigger until it is no longer "minimal" |
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05/04/2005 11:20:35 AM · #31 |
I played it safe and took a risk and I can't be disappointed with my finish for that.
I'd never tried "soft" photography before. I was going for something that looked kind of like watercolor. And I think I got that. So I stretched myself.
But I played it safe by choosing the subject and style for this challenge. I knew my photo would not be unique and I was not surprised at all by the others that were similar.
My entry. It was the second highest scoring photo I've had yet and I got some wonderful comments (and a funny one from a fellow who just joined and was already tired of flower photos ... boy is he gonna have fun on this site!). |
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05/04/2005 11:35:42 AM · #32 |
I learned to be truly minimal by coming in last (again!).
I learned that dpc voters paid tribute to a truly minimal entry by giving it a nice minimal score (176 1's - wooooot!).
I believe I had minimal in many categories: tone delta, file size, image dimensions, dpc placement, subject matter, and (I think) useful comments.
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05/04/2005 11:37:53 AM · #33 |
What I learned:
That I didn't learn from previous lessons.
Never shoot just to shoot.
If ya can't do it right, find a good subject and commit the time, then don't enter. |
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05/04/2005 11:39:36 AM · #34 |
Well This was my first photo (THE FEAST)
And I really learned A lot from the comments I got. Plz I would be grateful if u people could help me out as I am new to this site and Photography. Thanks for commenting everyone. I came 16. Think its good for the first entry. For those of u wondering what the ant was with....It was a drop of HONEY.
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05/04/2005 11:41:57 AM · #35 |
I don't know what I learned.
:)
According to the voters, mine just barely met the challenge:
60%, 193 out of 485, Avg (all users): 5.383
Guess a cross/spire doesn't do well. 3-10's, 3-1's and about a perfect bell curve peaking at 5. |
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05/04/2005 11:47:36 AM · #36 |
I learned what I already knew.. don't dare to be different if you care about score.
Good thing I don't much care about score.
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05/04/2005 11:51:23 AM · #37 |
Like pawdrix, I learnt that popular misconceptions are persistent and that these can be celebrated and propped up by very good scores. Specifically, I learnt that minimalism is not understood as an art form with any kind of socio-historical context by the many but as a mere spatial relation on a flat surface.
I learnt that photographs with any possibility for a perception of it as an abstract will prompt many viewers to expect a kind of symbolic meaning or existential explanation derived from outside the image, such as from or via its author, as if he or she were equipped to do so... and that this attribute appears not to be expected of photos which identify a subject as separate from the photo as subject.
I agree with pawdric that this is a social phenomenon rather than an artistic truth. I disagree with him in terms of (my own) interest in studying it.
On a mildly positive note, I learnt that a good photo is a good photo is a good photo, in spite of the rampant disinterest in art in its many forms, confused topicality, and the toll these take.
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05/04/2005 12:11:09 PM · #38 |
Sociologically speaking, this site is litterally a Virtual Fountain of Gold. Think of it...three or more times a week you can see people from all around the world grapple with definitions, art, interpretation, logic, timing, aethetics, pop-culture or "wow factor", persuasion, aspirations and more.
I'm trying to figure it out. Taking a perfect or great photo is first and foremost but other than that.......................?
Message edited by author 2005-05-04 17:01:51.
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05/04/2005 12:15:35 PM · #39 |
I learnt not to take the wording literally!!
Very poor scoring for my shot ................ hey ummmm will know in the future
sandie |
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05/04/2005 12:24:26 PM · #40 |
I learned that I should of cropped differently as well.
From this:
To this:
It was windy when I took this. You can see the rain is not coming straight down. This gives the bird a softer appearance as his feathers are ruffled.
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05/04/2005 12:32:55 PM · #41 |
I learned that with a little effort it was possible to beat my personal best *grins*. some people thought that i had dust on my sensor but the white spots were simply lights from the boats and from the docks at the back.
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05/04/2005 12:33:29 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by buzzmom:
i learned never to take a photo for a challenge on painkillers ever again... |
How do you know that the challenge was on painkillers? ;oP
Just being silly with misplaced modifiers.
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05/04/2005 12:38:43 PM · #43 |
| bbower, I loved your cardinal shot. So clear and bold. I agree the cropping improved it, see we learned something from this site. |
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05/04/2005 12:43:00 PM · #44 |
It was a minimalism challenge, so I learned very little. ;-)
Maybe if I had entered something... |
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05/04/2005 01:01:17 PM · #45 |
I learned that a lot of people need to calibrate there monitors. Or that I guess I possibly need to, but, I'm pretty sure I don't. |
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05/04/2005 02:48:31 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by eostyles:
That everyone has different taste:
Place: 335 out of 485
Avg (all users): 4.846
Avg (commenters): 5.923
Avg (camera): 4.861
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That's pretty much the number one thing I took away from this challenge as well. Half of the shots on the first page I scored 5 or below, including a ribbon. This one I scored highly. Some of my favorite shots scored very, very poorly, including one of my few 10s.
I'll be writing up a detailed post-mortem of my own shot and the things I learned in the challenge probably tonight. I may add a final section for "Most Underrated" to celebrate my favorite shots in the bottom 40%. |
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05/04/2005 03:07:46 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by justine:
What I learned:
That I didn't learn from previous lessons.
Never shoot just to shoot.
If ya can't do it right, find a good subject and commit the time, then don't enter. |
Amen. I guess I have to be hit in the head. |
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05/04/2005 03:19:25 PM · #48 |
I learned that it is possible to create an image I can be proud of on my own terms, and win a ribbon with it. Great feeling.
Robt.
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05/04/2005 04:34:41 PM · #49 |
Originally posted by Beetle:
I learned two things. If you want to do well, you must:
A) not use any creatures that people may not like, since many can't get past a personal dislike and get on with judging a PHOTO.
B) make sure that even the thumbnail looks good for all those people that vote as soon as the voting bar is up and never actually SEE the whole photo.
My photo was very blah as a thumbnail, but much better full size.
(I had a better one of that spider, but was worried that it was getting too big for this particular challenge).
I know it still has room for improvement, but look at the difference between commentors, overall, and no camera.
A good deal of the very low scores must have been because of the thumbnail issue.
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I will share something I learned awhile back: titles DO matter. Rarely ever is the title of a photograph accepted or embraced if it is supposedly spoken by the the subject of the photo, as was the case of this shot. (I gave this a 6) Consider the most common snappy titles to photos in this vein are; "Hi there" and "Are you looking at me?" A lack of imaginative, inspirational or image-enhancing titling is on a par with the shot being out of focus, to some. If there are multiple subjects in the frame and the quoted caption is extraordinarily funny as if one subject is speaking to the other, it might enhance the shot. But usually it is best to not put words into the mouth (or mandibles) of the subject, in place of a descriptive title.
Message edited by author 2005-05-04 16:40:33.
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05/04/2005 05:07:35 PM · #50 |
Originally posted by RonBeam:
I will share something I learned awhile back: titles DO matter. Rarely ever is the title of a photograph accepted or embraced if it is supposedly spoken by the the subject of the photo, as was the case of this shot. (I gave this a 6) Consider the most common snappy titles to photos in this vein are; "Hi there" and "Are you looking at me?" A lack of imaginative, inspirational or image-enhancing titling is on a par with the shot being out of focus, to some. If there are multiple subjects in the frame and the quoted caption is extraordinarily funny as if one subject is speaking to the other, it might enhance the shot. But usually it is best to not put words into the mouth (or mandibles) of the subject, in place of a descriptive title. |
Ron - thank you for that!
I was (and still am) very pleased with the photo. I looked at a number of aspects that make it less than perfect, but I had NOT considered that the title could be a problem.
I guess it's because the only time I think about a title is when it is the ONLY thing that ties a photo in with a challenge, otherwise it never seems important to me. Perhaps I need to get more critical, too.
Thank you for pointing out something new to me.
Now I'll be scratching my head wondering how many people voted low just because of the title ..... hmmmm |
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