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04/15/2005 11:49:39 PM · #1
Hey everyone,

Since i'm trying to push my studies on portraiture, i just realised any good portrait shots needs good makeup.

Anyone has good tricks of the trade to share, or perharps personal experience? I have a girlfriend, but she never puts on the stuff, so no luck there...

Anyways, any help is welcome.
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04/15/2005 11:55:33 PM · #2
04/16/2005 12:01:47 AM · #3
Originally posted by RedOak:

Since i'm trying to push my studies on portraiture, i just realised any good portrait shots needs good makeup.



Was that an epiphany?

I won't photograph most of my models if the have an ounce of makeup on. Lip gloss maybe. But then I don't do glamour shots. I look for realism in my portraiture. Not every model can stand up to that kind of photography.
04/16/2005 12:04:46 AM · #4
My experience has been that with pictures, like stage, it needs to be just a bit bolder than in "real life." But don't go overboard. (edit to add -- like nsbc says, natural is best, except in the glamour arena. But, a good foundation will go along way in improving the skin tones. Mascara is a must, if you want minimalist.)

Concealer and a good foundation, carefully matched, will do wonders to smooth out the skin and skin colors. It doesn't have to be "thick," but it does need to match the skin ("disappears" after application), otherwise, it will look, well, funky.

After applying the makeup, a powder dusted lightly over the face (again, matching color tones carefully) will "smooth" the colors and make them last longer. HOWEVER if you model is "more mature" or has wrinkles, stay away from powder, it will only enhance the lines.

That said, how much of the make up do you plan on doing for your clients, or how much do plan on advising them? I've found that most women (I don't have a lot of experience with men wearing makeup) are extremely "possessive" of "their" colors, and how they wear them. To suggest something different borders on heresy or blasphemy with many.

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04/16/2005 01:19:25 AM · #5
Well i was thinking more in the lines of 'hiring' (or asking a favor) a profesionnal makeup artist, really.

Its just that since i don't jack about makeup(or woman for that matter), its hard to 'suggestion' or properly describe what i'd look for for the shot.

Karmat, your descriptions and insights are very good, thank you! It helps a bunch. I'm still looking into things to make it work some. Now all i need is some light... grr
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04/16/2005 09:08:16 AM · #6
Redoak -- my suggestion to you about the makeup artist --

don't hire one. I am a Mary Kay consultant, and there is probably a consultant in your area who would jump at the chance to help. They may not be considered "professional" as far as some would judge, but most really knoe their stuff, and take pride in making women look and feel their best.

You can go to www.marykay.com and do a search for consultants in you area.
04/16/2005 02:37:47 PM · #7
Doing make-up for a photo shoot and doing make-up for a makeover aren't the same. Where as the makeover is better than nothing, the make-up artist knows how to apply make-up that will look better on camera. Certain make-up has to be exaggerated to come across as looking normal on camera.

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04/16/2005 04:07:39 PM · #8
Ya might be surprised what the makeover artist knows. ;-)

Besides, it is considerably cheaper than hiring a professional make up artist, especially for someone just starting out.
04/16/2005 05:28:04 PM · #9
Hey makeup isn't nigthmare,the best thing ever...can make all the difference,check my portrait2 (ok maybe not the best example),I had some good make up on ,and I didn't need any PS work!Karmat has already pointed out the rules!And the good make up doesn't hide,but brings the personality out.(I am not talking about extravagant fashion makeup)

Message edited by author 2005-04-16 17:39:01.
04/16/2005 05:31:03 PM · #10
I agree,,makeup isnt everything but then again sometimes it is,,,,I to am a mary kay consultant,,,but I am lucky enough to get away with eye makeup thanks to Mary kay,,,,anyways enough aobut that,,,sometimes little things like that do make a difference,,,but I do have to say I am aobut the realsim as well,,natural is beautiful,,in any form.
04/16/2005 07:31:46 PM · #11
Thanks Karmat. Unfortunatly, i'm not in the US, so //www.marykay.com is not very useful in my situation. But i've spoted a esthetic school near where i live so i'll probably go there scout for some young talents. A collaboration could really do some good.

Thanks for the help everyone!
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