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02/17/2021 10:51:56 PM · #1 |
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02/18/2021 02:24:48 AM · #2 |
Originally posted by Neat:
A legend! |
I agree. RIP Rush. |
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02/18/2021 07:35:28 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by Neat:
A legend! |
Seriously?
The guy was a fucking stooge. Limbaugh's legacy is the destruction of truth, the manipulation of his audience and the promotion of conspiracies. I'll be glad to piss on his grave. |
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02/18/2021 08:33:31 AM · #4 |
The man was one of the most vile, disgusting people EVER!
Maybe Google his little "AIDS Update" scenarios. Unconscionable!
He was a racist, and a virulent anti-LGBTQ asshole.
I would piss on his grave as well!
Originally posted by Heather Cox Richardson:
"The crisis in Texas continues, with almost 2 million people still without power in frigid temperatures. Pipes are bursting in homes, pulling down ceilings and flooding living spaces, while 7 million Texans are under a water boil advisory.
Tim Boyd, the mayor of Colorado City, Texas, put on Facebook: “The City and County, along with power providers or any other service owes you NOTHING! I’m sick and tired of people looking for a damn handout!... If you are sitting at home in the cold because you have no power and are sitting there waiting for someone to come rescue you because your lazy is direct result of your raising! [sic]…. This is sadly a product of a socialist government where they feed people to believe that the FEW will work and others will become dependent for handouts…. I’ll be damned if I’m going to provide for anyone that is capable of doing it themselves!... Bottom line quit crying and looking for a handout! Get off your ass and take care of your own family!” “Only the strong will survive and the weak will parish [sic],” he said.
After an outcry, Boyd resigned.
Boyd’s post was a fitting tribute to talk radio host Rush Limbaugh, who passed today from lung cancer at age 70. It was Limbaugh who popularized the idea that hardworking white men were under attack in America. According to him, minorities and feminists were too lazy to work, and instead expected a handout from the government, paid for by tax dollars levied from hardworking white men. This, he explained, was “socialism,” and it was destroying America.
Limbaugh didn’t invent this theory; it was the driving principle behind Movement Conservatism, which rose in the 1950s to combat the New Deal government that regulated business, provided a basic social safety net, and promoted infrastructure. But Movement Conservatives' efforts to get voters to reject the system that they credited for creating widespread prosperity had little success.
In 1971, Lewis Powell, an attorney for the tobacco industry, wrote a confidential memo for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce outlining how business interests could overturn the New Deal and retake control of America. Powell focused on putting like-minded scholars and speakers on college campuses, rewriting textbooks, stacking the courts, and pressuring politicians. He also called for “reaching the public generally” through television, newspapers, and radio. “[E]very available means should be employed to challenge and refute unfair attacks,” he wrote, “as well as to present the affirmative case through this media.”
Pressing the Movement Conservative case faced headwinds, however, since the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) enforced a policy that, in the interests of serving the community, required any outlet that held a federal broadcast license to present issues honestly, equitably, and with balance. This “Fairness Doctrine” meant that Movement Conservatives had trouble gaining traction, since voters rejected their ideas when they were stacked up against the ideas of Democrats and traditional Republicans, who agreed that the government had a role to play in the economy (even though they squabbled about the extent of that role).
In 1985, under a chair appointed by President Ronald Reagan, the FCC stated that the Fairness Doctrine hurt the public interest. Two years later, under another Reagan-appointed chair, the FCC abolished the rule.
With the Fairness Doctrine gone, Rush Limbaugh stepped into the role of promoting the Movement Conservative narrative. He gave it the concrete examples, color, and passion it needed to jump from think tanks and businessmen to ordinary voters who could help make it the driving force behind national policy. While politicians talked with veiled language about “welfare queens” and same-sex bathrooms, and “makers” and “takers,” Limbaugh played “Barack the Magic Negro,” talked of “femiNazis,” and said “Liberals” were “socialists,” redistributing tax dollars from hardworking white men to the undeserving.
Constantly, he hammered on the idea that the federal government threatened the freedom of white men, and he did so in a style that his listeners found entertaining and liberating.
By the end of the 1980s, Limbaugh’s show was carried on more than 650 radio stations, and in 1992, he briefly branched out into television with a show produced by Roger Ailes, who had packaged Richard Nixon in 1968 and would go on to become the head of the Fox News Channel. Before the 1994 midterm elections, Limbaugh was so effective in pushing the Republicans’ “Contract With America” that when the party won control of the House of Representatives for the first time since 1952, the Republican revolutionaries made him an honorary member of their group.
Limbaugh told them that, under House Speaker Newt Gingrich, the Republicans must “begin an emergency dismantling of the welfare system, which is shredding the social fabric,” bankrupting the country, and “gutting the work ethic, educational performance, and moral discipline of the poor.” Next, Congress should cut capital gains taxes, which would drive economic growth, create hundreds of thousands of jobs, and generate billions in federal revenue.
Limbaugh kept staff in Washington to make sure Republican positions got through to voters. At the same time, every congressman knew that taking a stand against Limbaugh would earn instant condemnation on radio channels across the country, and they acted accordingly.
Limbaugh saw politics as entertainment that pays well for the people who can rile up their base with compelling stories—Limbaugh’s net worth when he died was estimated at $600 million—but he sold the Movement Conservative narrative well. He laid the groundwork for the political career of Donald Trump, who awarded Limbaugh the Presidential Medal of Freedom in a made-for-tv moment at Trump’s 2020 State of the Union address. His influence runs deep in the current party: former Mayor Boyd, an elected official, began his diatribe with: “Let me hurt some feelings while I have a minute!!” |
Message edited by Bear_Music - parsed quote. |
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02/18/2021 09:11:51 AM · #5 |
Just curious, if Rush is a legend, did you teach your son this pearl of wisdom?
Originally posted by Rush:
How many of you guys in your own experience with women have learned that 'no' means 'yes' if you know how to spot it? |
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02/18/2021 09:50:31 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by Venser:
Just curious, if Rush is a legend, did you teach your son this pearl of wisdom?
Originally posted by Rush:
How many of you guys in your own experience with women have learned that 'no' means 'yes' if you know how to spot it? |
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Perfect!
A stellar, and typical example of the kind of misogynistic pig the man was.
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02/18/2021 10:00:53 AM · #7 |
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02/18/2021 10:30:47 AM · #8 |
| Thanks for your replies, you made my day. I just could not believe that the OP started this thread as a way of glorifying this vile man. |
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02/18/2021 10:43:49 AM · #9 |
Legend?!
I'm not going to respond simply to echo what has been said. The impact on this nation, and this world, resulting from his decades of spreading lies, fear, and hatred is immeasurable. An hour of Rush a day makes the sanity go away. Don't believe me? Think it's all hyperbole? Watch The Brainwashing of My Dad (free at this link) and then tell me.
And for the skeptical, this was released in 2015, so it avoids anything having to do with anything that's happened in the last 5 years.
Message edited by author 2021-02-18 10:49:35. |
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02/18/2021 11:03:39 AM · #10 |
I knew there was no way that some could let this man's death be the end of him. They'd have to drag him through the mud even when he's dead.
Let it go, people.
He's dead.
What's to gain by smashing him now?
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02/18/2021 11:06:21 AM · #11 |
Whatever you think of Mr. Limbaugh (if you must think of him at all) let's not sink to the level of verbal behavior so many here seem to decry.
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02/18/2021 11:15:02 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by Lydia:
I knew there was no way that some could let this man's death be the end of him. They'd have to drag him through the mud even when he's dead.
Let it go, people.
He's dead.
What's to gain by smashing him now? |
Not so sure that "smashing him now" is what's taking place here. My take on it is knee jerk reactions to the OP's (and I believe ... very tongue-in-cheek, bored this morning, let's get a reaction, sarcastic) mention of him being a "Legend".
Actually, the OP's statement is not far from the mark, in the technical definition of the word. Quick Google search on Legend ...
an extremely famous or notorious person, especially in a particular field.
"the man was a living legend"
In that framing, I guess he could be considered a "Legend". ... and FTR, I was not a fan of his. |
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02/18/2021 11:16:53 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by Lydia:
What's to gain by smashing him now? |
Unfortunately his legacy will permeate American politics and the world at large for a lot longer.
Without Rush you don't have Tucker, Sean, or most of the Fox News opinion hosts who spread mostly lies and vitriol.
So no, you don't let it go when it still lives on. It's like a hydra, you have to keep chopping off the new heads.
Message edited by author 2021-02-18 11:18:00. |
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02/18/2021 11:16:54 AM · #14 |
| Yes General, so easy to hate. I doubt those making hateful comments have spent much time listening to him. He was nothing like the hateful and lying media portrayed. |
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02/18/2021 11:18:12 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by Lydia:
I knew there was no way that some could let this man's death be the end of him. They'd have to drag him through the mud even when he's dead.
Let it go, people.
He's dead.
What's to gain by smashing him now? |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Whatever you think of Mr. Limbaugh (if you must think of him at all) let's not sink to the level of verbal behavior so many here seem to decry.
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Some of us have friends and family over the years that either fell under his spell or were cast into his spotlight.
It's not a bad thing to be relieved and glad that such an evil, destructive force is gone.
There is, unfortunately, an example of the worst example of humanity to come along once in a while.
It is best *not* to forget that can happen, and call it out.
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02/18/2021 11:31:43 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by cloudsme:
Yes General, so easy to hate. I doubt those making hateful comments have spent much time listening to him. He was nothing like the hateful and lying media portrayed. |
I'll play. Direct quotes from his mouth.
Originally posted by Rush:
Women should not be allowed on juries where the accused is a stud. |
Originally posted by Rush:
If any race of people should not have guilt about slavery, it's Caucasians. The white race has probably had fewer slaves and for a briefer period of time than any other in the history of the world. |
Originally posted by Rush:
Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson? |
Originally posted by Rush:
Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it. |
Originally posted by Rush:
What does it say about the college co-ed Susan Fluke [sic], who goes before a congressional committee and essentially says that she must be paid to have sex, what does that make her? It makes her a slut, right? It makes her a prostitute. She wants to be paid to have sex. She's having so much sex she can't afford the contraception. She wants you and me and the taxpayers to pay her to have sex. What does that make us? We're the pimps.......So, Ms. Fluke and the rest of you feminazis, here's the deal. If we are going to pay for your contraceptives, and thus pay for you to have sex, we want something for it, and I'll tell you what it is. We want you to post the videos online so we can all watch. |
Originally posted by Rush:
When a gay person turns his back on you, it is anything but an insult; it's an invitation. |
Originally posted by Rush:
I think it's time to get rid of this whole National Basketball Association. Call it the TBA, the Thug Basketball Association, and stop calling them teams. Call 'em gangs. |
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02/18/2021 11:38:52 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by Lydia:
I knew there was no way that some could let this man's death be the end of him. They'd have to drag him through the mud even when he's dead.
Let it go, people.
He's dead.
What's to gain by smashing him now? |
This thread was started by a Rush supporter. So you didn't "know" as much you claim. People didn't start a thread to drag him through the mud.
This is typical online discourse. Twitter on DPC. People reacting and then being accused of acting. Ignoring the assumptions and philosophies behind people's statements and reacting to them as if they are in the context of your own assumptions and philosophies. No attempt made to understand someone else's point of view, just scoring points.
A discourse, in fact, in which Rush excelled. Scoring points. Making reactions.
I think his death is tragic, because his life was tragic, because the way he viewed the world was tragic. But that's just my opinion, based on my assumptions and philosophies.
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02/18/2021 11:50:50 AM · #18 |
| This thread has hyper-boosted itself straight into rant... |
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02/18/2021 11:51:00 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
A discourse, in fact, in which Rush excelled. Scoring points. Making reactions. |
He made 600 mln $ doing that. |
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02/18/2021 11:52:48 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
This thread has hyper-boosted itself straight into rant... |
Why? Should everyone be gagged for trying to stop for this kind of man be glorified? |
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02/18/2021 11:56:43 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by MargaretNet:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
This thread has hyper-boosted itself straight into rant... |
Why? Should everyone be gagged for trying to stop for this kind of man be glorified? |
Nobody's been gagged, the thread has just been moved to the proper forum for heated/adversarial discourse. |
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02/18/2021 11:56:49 AM · #22 |
| Though my impulse is to refrain from speaking ill of the dead, Limbaugh was a public figure of his own choosing. And he spoke ill of so many, and being complicit with Trump, who has so much blood on his hands, he likewise has done tremendous damage to so many. Chris (Venser), Jeb (NikonJeb), and Jake (JakeKurdsjuk) have done a great job of providing background illustrating what a scumbag he was. It's one thing to hold varying opinions, but if the thrust of one's opinion is to degrade, deprive and visit violence on other people, respect for such an opinion is forfeited. His radio show was the media equivalent of salting the earth. There are so many people champing at the bit to gallop down the road of dictatorship, oppression and murder, meanly thinking it would be to their benefit. People on the q-anon shipwreck were hoping to the last minute on January 6th that Trump's institution of martial law was imminent, hoping, hoping. What??? Limbaugh kept pace on his self-righteous steamroller, face plastered with a gleeful grimace, laying down the necessary thoroughfare. Rightist extremists will attempt to slather Clearasil on the acne, but there just isn't enough to hide his suppurating character. |
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02/18/2021 12:05:12 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by MargaretNet:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
This thread has hyper-boosted itself straight into rant... |
Why? Should everyone be gagged for trying to stop for this kind of man be glorified? |
There was only one place this was going to end up. Let's be honest with ourselves. |
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02/18/2021 01:13:57 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by Venser:
Originally posted by MargaretNet:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
This thread has hyper-boosted itself straight into rant... |
Why? Should everyone be gagged for trying to stop for this kind of man be glorified? |
There was only one place this was going to end up. Let's be honest with ourselves. |
Yes but now the audience is small, what the bastard did lives on. Remember Hitler and the German moderates. They were never heard so, I believe, they were complicit in what happened.
God bless America. |
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02/18/2021 03:05:10 PM · #25 |
Here's Heather Cox Richardson, a widely-respected (albeit liberal-leaning) historian on the Texas Crisis and, through extension, the origins of Rush Limbaugh's philosophy:
Richardson's Latest Blog Post
First few Paragraphs follow:
Originally posted by Heather Cox Richardson:
The crisis in Texas continues, with almost 2 million people still without power in frigid temperatures. Pipes are bursting in homes, pulling down ceilings and flooding living spaces, while 7 million Texans are under a water boil advisory.
Tim Boyd, the mayor of Colorado City, Texas, put on Facebook: “The City and County, along with power providers or any other service owes you NOTHING! I’m sick and tired of people looking for a damn handout!... If you are sitting at home in the cold because you have no power and are sitting there waiting for someone to come rescue you because your lazy is direct result of your raising! [sic]…. This is sadly a product of a socialist government where they feed people to believe that the FEW will work and others will become dependent for handouts…. I’ll be damned if I’m going to provide for anyone that is capable of doing it themselves!... Bottom line quit crying and looking for a handout! Get off your ass and take care of your own family!” “Only the strong will survive and the weak will parish [sic],” he said.
After an outcry, Boyd resigned.
Boyd’s post was a fitting tribute to talk radio host Rush Limbaugh, who passed today from lung cancer at age 70. It was Limbaugh who popularized the idea that hardworking white men were under attack in America. According to him, minorities and feminists were too lazy to work, and instead expected a handout from the government, paid for by tax dollars levied from hardworking white men. This, he explained, was “socialism,” and it was destroying America.
Limbaugh didn’t invent this theory; it was the driving principle behind Movement Conservatism, which rose in the 1950s to combat the New Deal government that regulated business, provided a basic social safety net, and promoted infrastructure. But Movement Conservatives' efforts to get voters to reject the system that they credited for creating widespread prosperity had little success. |
ETA: Penny just pointed out that the above is a verbatim reposting of the first part of what Jeb put up a few hours ago, which I had not realized. I'm leaving it in place, though, because it's a lot easier to read when posted in Paragraph form :-) To that end, I've also parsed the quote in Jeb's original post so the whole article is more easily readable.
Message edited by author 2021-02-18 16:00:07. |
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