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10/27/2016 11:11:07 PM · #1
In terms of dynamic range. Anyone else feel like cellphone cams giving DSLR's a good ru. Specially Canon.
10/28/2016 12:07:58 AM · #2
I don't know about Canon, but in terms of comparing cell phone cameras with DSLRs, no, not really. Cell phones cameras have certainly gotten a lot better, especially with dynamic range. But they are still notoriously terribly in low light, producing either very noisy or very blurry shots. They do not really have shutter speed control, nor can you adjust the dof very well. Also, they do not handle high contrast very well at all, although some have an HDR feature which helps.

Task-specific tools (such as DSLRs) will likely always be ahead of hybrids (phone/camera) because the latter must always seek a compromise.

That being said, the best camera is the one you have with you :)
10/28/2016 12:18:45 AM · #3
Originally posted by tanguera:

I don't know about Canon, but in terms of comparing cell phone cameras with DSLRs, no, not really. Cell phones cameras have certainly gotten a lot better, especially with dynamic range. But they are still notoriously terribly in low light, producing either very noisy or very blurry shots. They do not really have shutter speed control, nor can you adjust the dof very well. Also, they do not handle high contrast very well at all, although some have an HDR feature which helps.

Task-specific tools (such as DSLRs) will likely always be ahead of hybrids (phone/camera) because the latter must always seek a compromise.

That being said, the best camera is the one you have with you :)


True on all of that. Certainly not ISO performance, IS etc. Thinking more in terms of dynamic range. Its getting really close. Maybe not for Sony but Canon I think just addressed dynamic range in the 80d and 5d mkiv
10/28/2016 07:20:52 AM · #4
I have the Sony Xperia Z3 and it's not quite what I thought it would be in terms of camera quality (although Tiberius does well with it).

My wife has a Samsung 7 (I think that's what it is), and DANG, that thing really handles low light very well. I'm amazed at some of the shots she's able to get with that thing. Seriously.

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10/28/2016 07:22:39 AM · #5
i'd guess a dslr was better but its hard to tell how much since raw capture isn't widely available in phone cameras.

10/28/2016 07:32:24 AM · #6
Originally posted by glad2badad:

I have the Sony Xperia Z3 and it's not quite what I thought it would be in terms of camera quality (although Tiberius does well with it).

My wife has a Samsung 7 (I think that's what it is), and DANG, that thing really handles low light very well. I'm amazed at some of the shots she's able to get with that thing. Seriously.


Samsung S7 is my current camera hehe phone. Very pleased with it.
10/28/2016 07:34:40 AM · #7
DSLR and mirrorless will always have a bigger sensor. Cellphones cameras dramatically improved (I have a stunning LG G5 and it takes incredible photos) but in most cases bigger sensor makes the difference. If you take a portrait with a 50 1.4 wide open on a full frame and compare with what you can get with cellphone camera you will see a HUGE difference.
10/28/2016 07:34:55 AM · #8
Originally posted by Mike:

i'd guess a dslr was better but its hard to tell how much since raw capture isn't widely available in phone cameras.


Samsung S7 does it. However I rarely use it...

10/28/2016 07:35:44 AM · #9
Like a couple others, my 'phone is the S7, and yes, as 'phone cameras go it is outstanding. But comparing the output (even the RAW output, it does shoot RAW) with a DSLR is not a close race.
10/28/2016 08:32:15 AM · #10
I don't think my iPhone 7+ will ever replace the capabilities of my dslr. But, it does have potential to come closer. One of my first challenge entries with my iPhone 7+ camera made the front page of a regular challenge (minimal ruleset).

It does seem likely the newest generation of iPhones will replace consumer point&shoots. But, as far as exposure control, bokeh, telephoto lens use.... the DSLRs have the edge for the foreseeable future.

The ease and speed of file transfer will be a key factor. Connectivity and display on social media is a driving force. DSLRs will need to become more Internet savvy in the future to hold their market share. It will someday seem prehistoric and anachronistic to save images on a compact flash card or SD card and then transfer files to a computer, rather than instantaneously have images exist in the cloud.
10/28/2016 10:15:04 AM · #11
Originally posted by hahn23:

... The ease and speed of file transfer will be a key factor. Connectivity and display on social media is a driving force. DSLRs will need to become more Internet savvy in the future to hold their market share. It will someday seem prehistoric and anachronistic to save images on a compact flash card or SD card and then transfer files to a computer, rather than instantaneously have images exist in the cloud.

Yep. Two of my cameras (Sony 7II and Sony HX90V) use NFC and I can transfer from the camera directly to the phone for social media, etc ... it's quite fast and efficient.
10/28/2016 02:13:51 PM · #12
Though I only had my phone for 2 weeks (it was stolen on the metro, right out of my pocket...never felt a thing). I will say that I was just starting to experiment around with various photo's...and what I got I was really liking...will it replace it...not yet...

can I show you some pictures...well..their gone. I'll loose what I did on the trip...oh, well
10/28/2016 04:06:54 PM · #13
Originally posted by Ja-9:

can I show you some pictures...well..they're gone. I'll loose what I did on the trip...oh, well

Was it an iPhone? You may have had it set to back up your photos to iCloud...
10/28/2016 04:50:46 PM · #14
Originally posted by markwiley:

Originally posted by Ja-9:

can I show you some pictures...well..they're gone. I'll loose what I did on the trip...oh, well

Was it an iPhone? You may have had it set to back up your photos to iCloud...


yes it was, but I'm not sure if it got my last days...on the other hand the replacement is already waiting for me at home....(darned bugger that stole my phone...the pox on him and all his children to come)
10/28/2016 05:52:53 PM · #15
Originally posted by Ja-9:

....(darned bugger that stole my phone...the pox on him and all his children to come)

Given the apparent fragility of phone batteries it shouldn't be too hard to develop some code you can send to your (stolen) phone so it will burn a hole in his pocket ...
10/28/2016 09:44:42 PM · #16
The phones definitely not as good, but looking back at the dynamic range comparison. Under good conditions, the range is way up there for some cellphones. Like my nexus 5x, does ver well. And goes even further with handheld HDR.
11/01/2016 07:48:44 AM · #17
the issue with cellphones for me isn't just the sensor technology, its large crop factor and the superwide lens causing infinite depth of field and distortion. It seems that iphone is going "Lytro" to attempt to alleviate some of that.

the physical restrictions limit their use to really create something special, which sucks because their portability and functionality is perfect.
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