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04/04/2014 01:12:51 PM · #276
I'm rather amazed that this thread hasn't been assigned to the Rant Forum. I suspect had the thread been started by someone with a more conservative philosophy, it would already be in Rant. I've seen such conservative threads moved to Rant in just a few hours.
04/04/2014 01:21:47 PM · #277
Originally posted by Erastus:

I'm rather amazed that this thread hasn't been assigned to the Rant Forum. I suspect had the thread been started by someone with a more conservative philosophy, it would already be in Rant. I've seen such conservative threads moved to Rant in just a few hours.

That's a good point, actually. It's certainly gotten a tad testy now and then hasn't it? Since I started it (pre-SC days) now I'll move it (new SC powers) :-)
04/04/2014 01:25:25 PM · #278
Originally posted by Spork99:

AWESOME. So if I get really sick, my best bet for not going bankrupt is to relinquish my citizenship.

Nah, cuz you have to met the financial guidelines. FIRST you go broke, THEN you get CAVEM (if you're not a citizen).
04/04/2014 02:02:43 PM · #279
Originally posted by AbeSapien2:

... At my hospital, we commonly write off charges over $50K ...

Write off, as in deduct from your income for tax-reporting purposes? I think that would shift at least a percentage of those costs to the rest of us taxpayers.

BTW, how much does the CEO of your hospital make?
04/04/2014 07:40:49 PM · #280
The Hospital writes off the charges out of the operating budget and the person who receives the care does not have to pay anything out of pocket - I do not get to do this personally and yes, it most definitely DOES shift the cost to other taxpayers. In answer to your question,Paul,the CEO at my hospital earns $620K Base Pay Only - not counting any outside perks or benefits.

Thank you, Bear Music for the explanation of CAWEM which stands for Citizen-Alien Waived Emergency Medical. It is meant to cover emergency situations only and it is being very much abused and I see this daily. One of the reasons that healthcare costs are so high for all the rest of us and I do not believe it is sustainable in the long run.
04/05/2014 10:58:47 AM · #281
Originally posted by AbeSapien2:

... One of the reasons that healthcare costs are so high for all the rest of us and I do not believe it is sustainable in the long run.


...and as you indicate, it is one of the reasons that costs are so high.

The population in the USA might be better served if a serious study was done relative to the reasons why costs are so high and work on reducing those.

One might think that with some serious streamlining in a variety of non medical processes, a serious reduction in malpractice litigation and a review of other factors that perhaps, just perhaps you could develop a package that all could participate in.

Ray
04/08/2014 10:36:31 AM · #282
Originally posted by RayEthier:


The population in the USA might be better served if a serious study was done relative to the reasons why costs are so high and work on reducing those.

Ray


When the ACA was in congress, a Wash Post reporter did a long, fairly well researched article on exactly this topic. About once a year since then, I've looked for it, but it's disappeared into the internet ether.

Anyway, what it said was that the three major reasons that healthcare costs in the US are so much higher here than everywhere else...

* doctors (especially specialists) make about twice as much money as they would in the rest of the industrialized world.
* hospitals, because they compete, must all have the best buildings and latest equipment. Instead of one hospital having some fancy million dollar MRIPETRAHRAH scanner that only a few people really need, all five hospitals do. This means that costs for hospitalization and medical tests and procedures are about twice what they would be otherwise.
* then there's prescription drug costs, which are the highest in the world. By a lot.

Beyond that, there were some other smaller things they found, but the first three things were the bulk of the total.
04/11/2014 02:21:51 PM · #283
I think that article falls into the "too obvious to be helpful" category. There really are only three categories of expenditures in medicine: paying for doctors, paying for hospitals, and paying for drugs. His conclusion was we spend too much on all three. I'm not sure that's too helpful aside from the anecdote about the hospitals wanting to keep up with each other. Good luck regulating that though...
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