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11/19/2013 08:34:47 PM · #1
Art you won't believe aren't photographs
11/19/2013 08:40:59 PM · #2
Amazing work! My first thought is someone get them a camera... I'm joking - well sort of.
11/19/2013 09:12:51 PM · #3
umm...let me think now...who needs a camera to create photographs...hold on...I almost got it...oh, oh...oooooh, oh...a Photographer! Yes! That's it! A photographer! That is who needs a camera to create photographs.
11/19/2013 09:18:36 PM · #4
On a side note...great artwork. Nice find! Thanks for sharing.
11/19/2013 09:21:32 PM · #5
Shut the front door!! Holy crap they're good.
11/19/2013 09:22:14 PM · #6
We've discussed this in other posts about photo-realistic painting and my response is always "Why???" - sure it is an impressive skill, but you have to tell someone it's a painting to impress them.

That said, I still enjoy looking at them. :)
11/19/2013 09:26:01 PM · #7
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

We've discussed this in other posts about photo-realistic painting and my response is always "Why???"


Because they can of course. Certainly not because they have better things to do with their time. And to quote a recently deceased rock legend, "Other people like us, we gotta work!"

Message edited by author 2013-11-19 21:27:48.
11/19/2013 09:34:03 PM · #8
Not to say I don't appreciate photo-realism, but if I could paint, I'd want to paint stuff that doesn't exist outside of my mind. To each his own, though.

Certainly those lifelike sculptures are impressive. ...at least until we all have 3D printers that can reproduce them. ;-)
11/19/2013 09:55:41 PM · #9
But wait, we have 3D printers that can make guns. And if then we take those guns and photograph them...can we then kill with our photographs? As in 'that is a killer shot!'?

Message edited by author 2013-11-19 21:57:46.
11/19/2013 10:17:43 PM · #10
Sad. I know a portrait painter who paints the flash shadow in what she copies. I really don't get it.
11/19/2013 10:40:48 PM · #11
Get the frock out of town!!! Seriously? I wish my camera could product images this realistic and sharp. They are all off the hook. I especially liked Thomas Arvid.
11/20/2013 12:03:52 AM · #12
Awesome! So we (or me) Strive to make my photo's look painterly, and those artists make their paints look like photos... OH the madness of it all!.....

Move over Norman, there's a new illustrator in town!
11/20/2013 12:22:17 AM · #13
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Not to say I don't appreciate photo-realism, but if I could paint, I'd want to paint stuff that doesn't exist outside of my mind. To each his own, though.

Certainly those lifelike sculptures are impressive. ...at least until we all have 3D printers that can reproduce them. ;-)


Just because you can do photo-realistic pieces doesn't mean you are confined to scenes already seen. Obviously, this isn't to say that isn't predominantly true, but you can certainly make a hyper-realist portrayal of something not seen, not known.
11/20/2013 01:14:57 AM · #14
I just find it extraordinary that people can paint by hand what we do by pushing a button.
11/20/2013 01:26:49 AM · #15
Originally posted by tanguera:

I just find it extraordinary that people can paint by hand what we do by pushing a button.

It's not like it doesn't take talent. I push the button with a pinky in the air.
11/20/2013 04:02:31 AM · #16
thanks
11/20/2013 06:31:03 AM · #17
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Not to say I don't appreciate photo-realism, but if I could paint, I'd want to paint stuff that doesn't exist outside of my mind. ...

So no real change then? ;)
11/20/2013 06:56:50 AM · #18
those are really nice.

two other photorealists i really like...robert bechtle and ralph goings.
11/20/2013 10:14:54 AM · #19
Originally posted by Cuttooth:

those are really nice.

two other photorealists i really like...robert bechtle and ralph goings.


That Ralph is something else!
11/20/2013 10:35:18 AM · #20
I'd be willing to bet that most (or all) of those painters used a camera to create one or more photographs which they then painted. So they still need the camera, what they're really doing is replacing the printer.
11/20/2013 11:01:04 AM · #21
Originally posted by Spork99:

I'd be willing to bet that most (or all) of those painters used a camera to create one or more photographs which they then painted. So they still need the camera, what they're really doing is replacing the printer.

Of course! And that's been true, to some extent, all the way back to the time of Vermeer, at least.
11/20/2013 11:51:44 AM · #22
and some spend time desperately trying to make the photograph seem like a painting, so that others will be impressed after asking, "that's a photograph?"
11/20/2013 12:22:58 PM · #23
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by Spork99:

I'd be willing to bet that most (or all) of those painters used a camera to create one or more photographs which they then painted. So they still need the camera, what they're really doing is replacing the printer.

Of course! And that's been true, to some extent, all the way back to the time of Vermeer, at least.


Exactly. You need a photograph to paint them. A camera is an absolute need. And a photographer's eye. Lee Price is quite a great photographer taking a special delight in painting. There is the intense pleasure when painting, very much like cooking, that taking pictures with a the camera does not give you. If we look at the great food pics that Art Roflmao did, we realize that someone can use them for paintings. A lot of them have a wonderful painterly quality.
When I looked at the Christine W drawing of an eye, I noticed how beautiful the intermediate phases were. But she needed to show all her virtuosity, the vibrato, the tremolo, the bravura ... couldn't make just a drawing; she lacks the gift that takes the skill beyond reality.
11/20/2013 12:58:15 PM · #24
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by Spork99:

I'd be willing to bet that most (or all) of those painters used a camera to create one or more photographs which they then painted. So they still need the camera, what they're really doing is replacing the printer.

Of course! And that's been true, to some extent, all the way back to the time of Vermeer, at least.


Hockney-Falco Thesis
11/20/2013 02:09:16 PM · #25
Roman Photography?
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