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10/24/2012 09:12:31 AM · #51
Ok everyone should have a comment now, hope I didn't offend anyone, I was pretty blunt with some of them, but never rude.

Have to admit, it was hard to comment on every photo, I've never done that before, so to those who do it often I salute you!!
10/24/2012 09:19:43 AM · #52
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

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Or maybe the point is NOT to make the distractions work with the image, but rather, to illustrate the kinds of things we normally want to avoid in our photos.



That's how I interpret the challenge. If it works with the image or enhances it, it's not distracting. To make that clearer, imagine a photo of a parking lot, full with white Porsche 911, except for one car placed on the rule of thirds grid, that one is a red Jetta. Not a distraction for me, I'd assume the photographer shot that crop on purpose and the unusual element makes this image. Now, think of that parking lot again, but the red Jetta is parked at the edge of the photo - clearly a distraction. It doesn't matter if the photo is stock quality or blurred or tilted or if there's some sensor dust left in.
10/24/2012 09:26:49 AM · #53
Originally posted by h2:

Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

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Or maybe the point is NOT to make the distractions work with the image, but rather, to illustrate the kinds of things we normally want to avoid in our photos.



That's how I interpret the challenge. If it works with the image or enhances it, it's not distracting. To make that clearer, imagine a photo of a parking lot, full with white Porsche 911, except for one car placed on the rule of thirds grid, that one is a red Jetta. Not a distraction for me, I'd assume the photographer shot that crop on purpose and the unusual element makes this image. Now, think of that parking lot again, but the red Jetta is parked at the edge of the photo - clearly a distraction. It doesn't matter if the photo is stock quality or blurred or tilted or if there's some sensor dust left in.


Very good example! The photographers intention can be clearly recognized, but some things just don´t serve the purpose - technically or within the composition...
10/24/2012 09:45:56 AM · #54
Per the rules, do not post outtakes during the challenge voting period (I've removed the offending post and reply). After the challenge ends is fine.

Also, while perhaps a gray area, I think better not to call out a subgroup of the images during the voting period. It would make a great discussion afterwards though.

Message edited by author 2012-10-24 09:46:48.
10/24/2012 09:47:25 AM · #55
Isn't this all a moot point because you aren't supposed to vote down for DNMC anyway?? Hmmm? :P

The one rule that everyone takes as a light suggestion, to be sure.
10/24/2012 09:52:13 AM · #56
Originally posted by escapetooz:

Isn't this all a moot point because you aren't supposed to vote down for DNMC anyway?? Hmmm? :P

The one rule that everyone takes as a light suggestion, to be sure.


Why not vote down DNMC?
10/24/2012 09:52:19 AM · #57
That being said I have to agree. I'm seeing a lot of shots that I don't really think fit the challenge.
10/24/2012 09:54:39 AM · #58
Originally posted by albrix:

Originally posted by escapetooz:

Isn't this all a moot point because you aren't supposed to vote down for DNMC anyway?? Hmmm? :P

The one rule that everyone takes as a light suggestion, to be sure.


Why not vote down DNMC?


Neeevermind. My brain mushed two rules together. XP

Voting rules:

"You may not:

give an entry a lower score because you believe it violates the Challenge Rules.
recommend an entry for disqualification for not meeting the challenge"
10/24/2012 09:55:10 AM · #59
We could take a page out of Facebook; LIKE/UNLIKE/DISLIKE. LOL!
10/24/2012 09:59:33 AM · #60
Originally posted by albrix:

Originally posted by h2:

Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

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Or maybe the point is NOT to make the distractions work with the image, but rather, to illustrate the kinds of things we normally want to avoid in our photos.



That's how I interpret the challenge. If it works with the image or enhances it, it's not distracting. To make that clearer, imagine a photo of a parking lot, full with white Porsche 911, except for one car placed on the rule of thirds grid, that one is a red Jetta. Not a distraction for me, I'd assume the photographer shot that crop on purpose and the unusual element makes this image. Now, think of that parking lot again, but the red Jetta is parked at the edge of the photo - clearly a distraction. It doesn't matter if the photo is stock quality or blurred or tilted or if there's some sensor dust left in.


Very good example! The photographers intention can be clearly recognized, but some things just don´t serve the purpose - technically or within the composition...


It's funny the interpretations. I mean... to me when I thought of the challenge, I was trying to think of a way to have distracting elements that DID add to the photo. It seems silly to me to add distracting elements that make a photo worse, don't you think?

But as per the example, yes I think I agree there. Unusual does not equate distracting. But say two people walked into your unusual car scene, and distract from it, but they are somewhat interesting in their own right. To me that would add to the photo AND meet the challenge.

I think these challenges that are open to vastly differing interpretations generally tend to be lower scoring for the reasons we're seeing here...
10/24/2012 10:03:56 AM · #61
Haven't voted yet but this is a very intrestring challenge.. There are tack sharp eye candy, (nothing wrong with that in my book) artsy views, shots that have stuff that really distract you ... gonna be fun to vote.. I like to group mine then go back and maybe adjust some scores then comment..

BTY Love my comments!! and yes I got one from neat hehehe... I know she didn't nail this one as me!! little stinker has nailed my shot way too often, but I GOT HER this time!!! LOL
10/24/2012 10:06:44 AM · #62
Stats: You have rated 78 of 78 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 22 images (28%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 5.4615.

Embedded in my votes are:
2 - 10s
4 - 9s
6 - 8s
6 - 7s
10/24/2012 10:23:57 AM · #63
Meeting a challege shall not be a distraction from creting a good image. Neither is ignoring the challenge description a way to post anything we produce.
This particular challenge has more interpretative elements so we have to use a wider way of analysing the images.
10/24/2012 10:27:03 AM · #64
Originally posted by Neil:

Per the rules, do not post outtakes during the challenge voting period (I've removed the offending post and reply). After the challenge ends is fine.

Also, while perhaps a gray area, I think better not to call out a subgroup of the images during the voting period. It would make a great discussion afterwards though.


mea culpa
10/24/2012 10:47:57 AM · #65
sigh... I blame photoshop touch. Seriously. It's so very limiting it's like trying to cut a steak with nail clippers. I can't even process RAW.

Now I know how the other half lives... ;) (The non-photoshoppers)

Votes: 34
Views: 75
Avg Vote: 5.5294
Comments: 2
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 10/24/12 10:29 am

Message edited by author 2012-10-24 10:49:23.
10/24/2012 11:11:35 AM · #66
Originally posted by escapetooz:

Originally posted by albrix:

Originally posted by h2:

Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

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Or maybe the point is NOT to make the distractions work with the image, but rather, to illustrate the kinds of things we normally want to avoid in our photos.



That's how I interpret the challenge. If it works with the image or enhances it, it's not distracting. To make that clearer, imagine a photo of a parking lot, full with white Porsche 911, except for one car placed on the rule of thirds grid, that one is a red Jetta. Not a distraction for me, I'd assume the photographer shot that crop on purpose and the unusual element makes this image. Now, think of that parking lot again, but the red Jetta is parked at the edge of the photo - clearly a distraction. It doesn't matter if the photo is stock quality or blurred or tilted or if there's some sensor dust left in.


Very good example! The photographers intention can be clearly recognized, but some things just don´t serve the purpose - technically or within the composition...


It's funny the interpretations. I mean... to me when I thought of the challenge, I was trying to think of a way to have distracting elements that DID add to the photo. It seems silly to me to add distracting elements that make a photo worse, don't you think?



I actually thought the same thing -- It didn't say that a distraction had to be a negative or a bad thing. I think there were a number of people that tried to work in distractions in a positive way.

Seemed kind of dumb to try to purposely ruin a good photo -- what's the point?

edited to add: a good photographer will either know how to deal with the distracting elements to make the picture stronger, or purposely add in distracting elements to split the eye and add intrigue. That's what I figured was the purpose of the challenge.

Message edited by author 2012-10-24 11:14:24.
10/24/2012 11:26:00 AM · #67
Originally posted by Neil:

Per the rules, do not post outtakes during the challenge voting period (I've removed the offending post and reply). After the challenge ends is fine.

Also, while perhaps a gray area, I think better not to call out a subgroup of the images during the voting period. It would make a great discussion afterwards though.

Thanks for this clarification and reiteration of the rules.
10/24/2012 11:37:33 AM · #68
I don't even know if I'm going to vote on this one. I only voted on 5 images, and only one of those even somewhat met the challenge. I'm very disapointed so far. I didn't hit the 20% mark where my votes would actually count, so I might just leave it at that.
10/24/2012 11:45:17 AM · #69
Yep, not voting. (I looked through a few others.) What a shame. I really don't feel you should have to search for something to be distracting. If you do, it's not actually distracting.
10/24/2012 11:49:08 AM · #70
Originally posted by lilysmom:

Yep, not voting. (I looked through a few others.) What a shame. I really don't feel you should have to search for something to be distracting. If you do, it's not actually distracting.

I think you should reconsider. Analyzing and inspecting images in this challenge can be very helpful in identifying what people consider to be distractions. It will improve your "eye". (Almost all the images in this challenge have distractions.)
10/24/2012 11:54:52 AM · #71
Originally posted by lilysmom:

Yep, not voting. (I looked through a few others.) What a shame. I really don't feel you should have to search for something to be distracting. If you do, it's not actually distracting.


I think throughout this thread there are a lot of helpful hints, how to look at the pictures to find distractions. It´s kind of a challenge itself. But I learned a lot...Final decision not to vote?
10/24/2012 11:55:33 AM · #72
Originally posted by lilysmom:

Yep, not voting. (I looked through a few others.) What a shame. I really don't feel you should have to search for something to be distracting. If you do, it's not actually distracting.


I'm sure I agree with this. Many photos take time to view them to appreciate them. As you are viewing them, your eyes move through the scene (hopefully in the direction the photographer intended). As you move through the scene you see more details, then it hits you, there is something that just doesn't belong. If only that something wasn't there, this photo would be even better. This is one definition of a distracting element to me.
10/24/2012 12:03:35 PM · #73
Originally posted by albrix:

Originally posted by lilysmom:

Yep, not voting. (I looked through a few others.) What a shame. I really don't feel you should have to search for something to be distracting. If you do, it's not actually distracting.


I think throughout this thread there are a lot of helpful hints, how to look at the pictures to find distractions. It´s kind of a challenge itself. But I learned a lot...Final decision not to vote?


I do see your point, but even if you search and find something in the photo that is distracting (which is totally up to the viewer what they consider distracting), that doesn't make it an element.

I guess maybe that's part of my problem (and this could be just me). I don't consider something tiny, like say one leave on a whole tree that's a slightly different color or a loose thread on a sleeve, an element. (And I'm not referring to any particular picture in the challenge.) Maybe that's wrong of me, maybe not. I am going to still comment in the challenge, but I don't think it's fair for me to vote.
10/24/2012 12:05:36 PM · #74
Originally posted by lilysmom:

I am going to still comment in the challenge, but I don't think it's fair for me to vote.

It's always fair for you to vote. If you don't see something distracting in the photo, that's the failure of the photographer, not yours as the viewer/voter.
10/24/2012 12:08:19 PM · #75
Originally posted by Venser:

Originally posted by lilysmom:

I am going to still comment in the challenge, but I don't think it's fair for me to vote.

It's always fair for you to vote. If you don't see something distracting in the photo, that's the failure of the photographer, not yours as the viewer/voter.


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