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10/03/2012 03:24:44 AM · #1
I am sorry to be a jerk, but how on earth can this get a 6+ score? Can someone tell me, why they score it that high? It's just... I don't understand.

I could pick many other pictures, this only serves as an example.

Message edited by author 2012-10-03 03:30:41.
10/03/2012 03:36:13 AM · #2
I don't know if you're a "jerk" but it's not really cool calling out a specific photo in that way. I gave it a 7, so you're kind of calling me out as well. If you are trying to understand how and why different people vote differently - give it up. Let it go. Go have a beer.

That said, I don't mind telling you that I gave it a 7 because I found it very appealing. Not knockout eye-candy, but well done, IMO. I can go take a look at your portfolio and look at what scores I gave you (if any) and let you know why (if I didn't already) - would that help you?
10/03/2012 03:44:31 AM · #3
<-- I gave this an 8. Well above the average of all other voters. Good lighting, composition, a little edgy - and tells a story- even if I made one up in my head when I looked at it.

<-- Gave it a 7, like the majority of voters did. Would have ribboned in an appropriate topical challenge.

<-- gave it a 5. Apparently I didn't like it as much as most others. Frankly, this defines "boring" moreso than the image you called out. Just my opinion though.
10/03/2012 03:45:37 AM · #4
I only thought it could be somewhat justified, because Paul wrote himself

Expected this to totally flop and was was close to not entering it as it was a quick snap while walking the dogs last night.


I am much more interested in hearing what makes it appeal to some. Thaks a lot for your reply, though!

Message edited by author 2012-10-03 03:46:54.
10/03/2012 03:49:31 AM · #5
Originally posted by pederlol:

I am much more interested in hearing what makes it appeal to some.

Ok - you have to put it in context - Metal on Metal - if you put ANY of the entries in a Free Study, my guess is they would all be 4's & 5's. So compared to all the other pics in that challenge, it deserved a 7 from me. ...and a 2 from someone else and a 10 from a couple other voters, etc etc.
10/03/2012 03:51:59 AM · #6
By the way, I have entered things I totally expected to flop or that I didn't put much effort into and they fared surprisingly well. It doesn't much matter what the person who enters it thinks of it or thinks it will score - the voters are the ones that count and there are a myriad of things that influence voters nad influence them differently at different times.
10/03/2012 04:13:45 AM · #7
Thanks Art:)

To be honest, I was surprised it did so well. It did match the brief well as there are several metal elements on top of each other and I thought the processing was OK however I was totally shocked to see if at one point have 6.9. I am certainly not complaining! Strangely my scoring for this challenge was spot on in terms of which other entries were in the top 10.

It is comforting to know that voters often think differently to ones own opinion and in future I will not hesitate to enter photos that I am unsure about. It is more fun having a photo in a challenge than none at all::)

10/03/2012 04:40:05 AM · #8
Originally posted by paulsteven:

It is more fun having a photo in a challenge than none at all::)

+1 and I currently have two "meh" shots in: Sep FS (5.1 currently) and candid portrait (4.6 currently)
10/03/2012 04:43:09 AM · #9
I used to get persecuted for HDR 5 years ago but now it is accepted, personally I like the shot.
10/03/2012 04:51:41 AM · #10
I should have said, when I seen this thread title I did immediately think it was going to be referring to my photo:)
10/03/2012 04:53:25 AM · #11
Its called an opinion,and everyone has one.
10/03/2012 05:21:23 AM · #12
Exactly Tiny; I am asking what that opinion is, not that you are not entitled to your own.
10/03/2012 06:00:57 AM · #13
it is what it is, personally i cant stand that style of processing, but many do.
10/03/2012 06:15:51 AM · #14
Originally posted by mike_311:

it is what it is, personally i cant stand that style of processing, but many do.


Without the processing, it was even more boring:)

10/03/2012 06:44:14 AM · #15
Originally posted by paulsteven:

Originally posted by mike_311:

it is what it is, personally i cant stand that style of processing, but many do.


Without the processing, it was even more boring:)


That sure is, Paul!

Congrats on the top 10. Fitting the challenge explicitly sure helps the score, and warm colors and HDR sure don't hurt here in DPCland.
10/03/2012 06:49:35 AM · #16
Originally posted by bassbone:

... and warm colors and HDR sure don't hurt here in DPCland.

That's it, I'm going to HDR everything.
10/03/2012 07:02:19 AM · #17
I was really drawn to it, although I didn't vote in this challenge, I would have given it a good score because something about it had the "wow" factor for me. But the original did absolutely nothing for me - which goes to show that my "newbie" mind still loved the HDR and the light rings and the steel wool and the fancy things I'm just learning to do.

But it was a lovely photo - intriguing and full of potential "story", which I made up in my head as Art does.

10/03/2012 08:13:22 AM · #18
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by pederlol:

I am much more interested in hearing what makes it appeal to some.

Ok - you have to put it in context - Metal on Metal - if you put ANY of the entries in a Free Study, my guess is they would all be 4's & 5's. So compared to all the other pics in that challenge, it deserved a 7 from me. ...and a 2 from someone else and a 10 from a couple other voters, etc etc.


Ugh...

A 7 photo is a 7 photo no matter what the theme as long as it applies to the theme. Free Study is essentially "No Theme, Anything Goes (within editing rules). If a photo doesn't fit the theme, it should be penalized, but if it fits the theme, it should score the same no matter what.

That photo in question could fit: Metal on Metal, Locks, Chains, Rust, and yes Free Study. And should be scored the same way IMO in each.
10/03/2012 08:31:16 AM · #19
Originally posted by Venser:

That's it, I'm going to HDR everything.

I'm sure you mean tonemapping, because HDR is a specific technique involving multiple exposures. Well done HDR does not always have the distinctive look that most people associate with it.
10/03/2012 08:35:28 AM · #20
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

it's not really cool calling out a specific photo in that way.


However, it IS cool to wear a leather jacket and give everyone the thumbs up.

10/03/2012 08:48:17 AM · #21
Why do boring threads like this get so many responses?

Oh shit, I guess I'm contributing to the problem. Sorry.
10/03/2012 08:57:09 AM · #22
That's it then. From now on all flower shots get a 3.
10/03/2012 09:04:49 AM · #23
I think you'll find your problem, as well as everyone else's, I'm the form of a"5". I say we boycott to get rid of just the "5" button :) some people also abuse the lower numbers. In fact a few people in this forum with well below a 5 voting average and tons of votes cast which means 1,2,3,4 abuse! Staying at or above a 5 average would be a healthy voter IMO.
10/03/2012 09:11:44 AM · #24
Originally posted by klkitchens:

A 7 photo is a 7 photo no matter what the theme as long as it applies to the theme. Free Study is essentially "No Theme, Anything Goes (within editing rules). If a photo doesn't fit the theme, it should be penalized, but if it fits the theme, it should score the same no matter what.

I disagree. I think the quality of the other entries in a challenge should affect the score of a particular image. If I used your logic, very few images would get 8, 9, or 10. As it is, I make sure there's at least one in each category in every challenge.
10/03/2012 09:13:47 AM · #25
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

That's it then. From now on all flower shots get a 3.


Let's include bugs with green BG, buildings from ofd street angle views, wineglasses, waterdrops, B&W portraits of old people, B&W portraits of young people, B&W portraits of people, ........
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