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01/21/2011 01:22:13 AM · #226
Corners please ladies and gentleman ! This thread has gone on long enough.
It is a photography site. What we all agree on - is we all like to take photos. What we argue about - is how we do it and what camera/ equipment we use.
Now back to our ordinary programming.
01/21/2011 01:54:58 AM · #227
I like your choice of weapon, Tajhad. I, too, shoot the 7D. I don't carry it everywhere - can't have it at work and it can get heavy sometimes, but I do like taking it out when I can.

Message edited by author 2011-01-21 02:06:29.
01/21/2011 03:10:58 AM · #228
Hey! I shoot the 7D, too. Pretty capable tool in the right hands. I've also got a 40D for home deployment and I've trained my son in it's use. Came in useful - he shot a fox in the garden the other day!

Tajhad, you're right, it is a photography forum and not suited to a gun rights debate, so I'll retire from the discussion. Too bad that a shared love of photography wasn't enough to solve this problem.

Message edited by author 2011-01-21 03:36:03.
01/21/2011 09:24:30 AM · #229
I'm an oddball, I shoot with an Olympus E-30. I do love it. What can I say, I'm a nonconformist.
01/21/2011 09:47:56 AM · #230
Maybe we should all just destroy our guns and keep our cameras handy in case we have an incident with criminals. That way we can shoot pix just before they jump us and swallow the card so that the cops will have evidence if they find it when they arrive to clean up the mess.

We have gun crimes here in the small town where I live, one homicide a couple of weeks ago in fact, but usually it is just the drug dealing bunch and other low life types keeping it among themselves. I don't remember ever hearing any stories of hunters going to someone's home in this area, and robbing them with a gun.
Guns and alcohol / drugs are a dangerous mix. I used to play music in barrooms, and have seen things get rowdy both inside and in the parking lots. We had bullet holes in our PA speakers. The danger would be there, even without guns. Knives and razors are just as dangerous in close quarter fights.
I used to hunt, because my grandfather and father were both hunting and fishing guides, but now my shooting is with a Nikon. I do keep a couple of pistols and a few long guns, not because I have to have them now. I keep them because I want them, and they are beautifully crafted pieces of equipment. I still enjoy target plinking once in a while with my son and grandson. My grandson, 10 now, is pretty good at skeet shooting with his 410 ga.
01/21/2011 01:31:11 PM · #231
Anyone else had this lesson drilled into them ...

"This is your rifle, this is your gun!"
01/21/2011 01:52:30 PM · #232
Originally posted by Dr.Confuser:

Anyone else had this lesson drilled into them ...

"This is your rifle, this is your gun!"


You betcha... over and over at Ft Dix and again at Ft Benning. I'm qualified on pistol (.45 cal), Rifle (M14 and M16), 106mm recoiless rifle, M81 mortar, and 105mm Howitzer at Ft Sill.

I was company champion on the M14 and love handling "guns" and rifles too... but I would never have one in my house, much less carry one into a bar or even a residential environment. They are dangerous and deserve proper respect and safety regulations.
01/21/2011 02:22:29 PM · #233
Isn't it time for this to go to Rant? I'm tired of seeing it on the front page.
01/21/2011 03:21:58 PM · #234
Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by Spork99:


ETA: I also know several families that provide the entirety of their meat supply by hunting...mostly with a gun.


He DID say "someone or someTHING else" and that covers hunting.

R.


And if he's going to condemn guns for that, I suppose he's backing that up with veganism?

I'm not "condemning" guns, and I'm not opposed to responsible, law-abiding competent adults owning and using guns for sport, hunting for food, or self-defense within the constraints of the law. I'm neither vegan nor vegetarian, though I eat less meat than the average American for health and financial reasons. Clear enough?

I am for having adequate, effective regulation to ensure that those who obtain firearms are responsible, law-abiding competent adults. As I said before, I'm open to hearing alternatives to today's gun laws which will more effectively obtain such a condition -- got a practical suggestion?
Originally posted by David Ey:

Did you mean to imply the NRA's answer to any of these is yes?

Since I'm not a member of the NRA, I don't know whether the answer would be yes or no -- that's why I asked. I then just stated what my response would be in either case, without stating which answer I thought would be forthcoming.

Message edited by author 2011-01-21 15:25:59.
01/21/2011 03:25:20 PM · #235
Originally posted by GeneralE:

[ got a practical suggestion?


Certainly: Anyone who is pro-gun is by definition ruled not fit to have one.

Message edited by author 2011-01-21 15:26:00.
01/21/2011 04:09:47 PM · #236
A related aside ... :-)

Museum recovers $50K Civil War gun stolen in 1975
01/21/2011 05:14:54 PM · #237
Originally posted by GeneralE:


. Does the NRA want criminals to be able to buy guns?
• Does the NRA want people with a history of unstable mental illness to be able to buy guns?
• Does the NRA want children (you pick the cut-off age) to be able to buy guns?
• Does the NRA want people associated with terrorist organizations to be able to buy guns?
• Does the NRA want people who would sell guns to any of the above to be able to buy guns?

If the answer to any of these is no, I await your suggestion as to how to accomplish such a condition.


The answer to all of the above is NO. Only a fool would think the NRA would think any of the above should be allowed. There are already laws that make these illegal, just like there are other laws criminalizing other activities. Now, how do you stop anyone from braking any law? Well, when caught, without spending a bunch of money defending them, you kill the perpetrator. Do I think all laws should be punishable by death? Don't be silly.

01/21/2011 06:20:00 PM · #238
Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by Kelli:

Originally posted by Spork99:


The problem with your argument is that you assume that a high rate of handgun ownership is the cause of a high rate of gun crime. It's not.



I post this in the other gun thread. You might want to check it out...

Here's a really good article about which states you're more likely to get killed by a gun in. It ranks the states by order of gun deaths and level of gun restriction laws... //www.rr.com/news/topic/article/rr/10374903/31871399/20_Deadliest_Gun_States


That chart is misleading since it doesn't specify that those gun deaths are or are not related to crime. They may be people shooting in self defense, suicides, accidents etc. It follows that high rates of gun ownership would lead to higher rates of gun deaths, just as higher rates of automobile ownership will mean more automobile related deaths.


Interesting thread, I enjoyed my Friday evening reading it.

The linked chart and Spork99's comment summarize my view on the topic.

Would you prefer to walk barefoot in a lawn with a spike hidden behind each grass straw or in a lawn with a spike hidden in every hundred square yards?

I don't care if the spikes were put there by bad men, by accident, by good men: I am happy to live in a country with a low rate of firearms per population!
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