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12/15/2006 12:56:02 AM · #26 |
I thought it was a nice holiday gift not only for the eye candy and variations it gives the viewer, but for the "no holes barred" for those photogs who really wanted to extend their editing abilities.
I didn't enter, but sure had fun voting.
Will comment more tomorrow.
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12/15/2006 12:57:18 AM · #27 |
| I don't see how it is cutting edge to copy/paste. I too don't care for the result, nice eye candy though it is. That said, the composites got a fair vote same as the rest. Can't bash on something for using what is allowed in the editing rules. |
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12/15/2006 12:57:18 AM · #28 |
Originally posted by ericwoo:
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by ericwoo:
it is official. I hate the results that this challeng yielded. |
Why is that? |
While there are some nice entries, this just isn't photography to me. I am just not a big composite fan. |
But they are beautifull!!! I think every kind of work has it`s own grace... Take them as they are, I guess this challenge is for that, and I am enjoying it very very much! |
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12/15/2006 12:57:26 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by ericwoo:
Let's put this rule set to rest and never speak of it again. |
There are some exceptional "photographic" images in this challenge that could not have been achieved, I suspect, without this ruleset. I know that's the case with mine (couldn't be done in advanced, I mean), and I am grateful for the opportunity to use more cutting-edge processing techniques.
Let's see how the voters handle this before we slam the ruleset, maybe? If these very, very fine images don't score well, as a group, I'll have a problem with that. But I don't think it's gonna happen.
R. |
I am pretty sure that your image is one of the excepetions here. I agree that there are some nice creations, and a variance on the rule set could be nice, I just think that too much has been allowed. I guess that it honestly does not effect me, I am just disappointed with the results. That's all. |
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12/15/2006 01:01:23 AM · #30 |
I'm with Gaby... take them for what they are and what they're meant to be. I see some high scores coming and everyone should be praised for the imagination and effort. Great job!
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12/15/2006 01:02:11 AM · #31 |
I am proud to say I used a single exposure and minimal advanced editing for this challenge. Other than a little selective editing to remove some artifacts, everything else was basic editing rule set. No Cut and Paste etc..... I did have bigger ideas about what I would do for this challenge earlier in the week, Then I got a shot that worked with out the extras... So if it were up to me, I would say keep this rule set around for at least one more challenge so I can actually try it out.
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12/15/2006 01:02:36 AM · #32 |
| I think the problem eric and routerguy are having is that many entries are digital art, and far removed from the pure photography that many people love. I enjoy both, so I think it's a fun change. I appreciate creativity in any venue, so bring it on folks, bring it on. |
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12/15/2006 01:02:36 AM · #33 |
What a challenge! I had to spread my votes out in a dramatic fashion to reward those those produced a good result that still felt like it was a photo. I apologise for those that got low scores for the obvious "digital art" entries - I'm sure others will compensate for my trolling ;)
> 6 = 45
6 = 54
< 6 = 23
I support this rule set in the future on an irregular basis
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12/15/2006 01:03:23 AM · #34 |
Originally posted by routerguy666:
I don't see how it is cutting edge to copy/paste. I too don't care for the result, nice eye candy though it is. That said, the composites got a fair vote same as the rest. Can't bash on something for using what is allowed in the editing rules. |
I'm not referring to cut 'n paste as "cutting edge". I'm specifically referring to the freedom to use true HDRI imaging to capture a full range of tones from multiple RAW exposures of the same scene. That's a "true" photographic technique we can't use in advanced editing.
R.
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12/15/2006 01:05:13 AM · #35 |
| I love it as a change of pace - it's great to see what people do when the sky's the limit ;-) |
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12/15/2006 01:06:05 AM · #36 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by routerguy666:
I don't see how it is cutting edge to copy/paste. I too don't care for the result, nice eye candy though it is. That said, the composites got a fair vote same as the rest. Can't bash on something for using what is allowed in the editing rules. |
I'm not referring to cut 'n paste as "cutting edge". I'm specifically referring to the freedom to use true HDRI imaging to capture a full range of tones from multiple RAW exposures of the same scene. That's a "true" photographic technique we can't use in advanced editing.
R. |
Of course a simple change to Adv Editing could accomodate this true HDR technique as well as eliminate the multiple exposure advantage certain cameras offer... But I digress. ;) |
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12/15/2006 01:07:16 AM · #37 |
I agree with Robert. The voters will determine how far people can take it. Even the purist should welcome this rule set as it allows for more flexibility in getting the shot "right" such as the use of bracketed shots/true HDR.
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12/15/2006 01:07:21 AM · #38 |
Originally posted by Jutilda:
I think the problem eric and routerguy are having is that many entries are digital art, and far removed from the pure photography that many people love. I enjoy both, so I think it's a fun change. I appreciate creativity in any venue, so bring it on folks, bring it on. |
Yup.
And Bear, I'd like to see a change to allow HDR on a regular basis, but I just don't dig the digital art stuff. |
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12/15/2006 01:12:40 AM · #39 |
The expert rule set allows more traditional stuff than just the use of bracketed shots/HDR. For one thing you can remove/move anything you want something not allowed under advance editing.
Message edited by author 2006-12-15 01:13:30.
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12/15/2006 01:13:44 AM · #40 |
Originally posted by yanko:
The expert rule set allows more traditional stuff than just the use of bracketed shots/HDR. For one thing you can remove anything you want something not allowed under advance editing. |
Just don't include it in the first place. |
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12/15/2006 01:15:47 AM · #41 |
Originally posted by ericwoo:
Originally posted by yanko:
The expert rule set allows more traditional stuff than just the use of bracketed shots/HDR. For one thing you can remove anything you want something not allowed under advance editing. |
Just don't include it in the first place. |
And what's the reason to do that? I'm not talking about anything introduced in the digital era.
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12/15/2006 01:16:58 AM · #42 |
Originally posted by Qart:
I'm with Gaby... take them for what they are and what they're meant to be. I see some high scores coming and everyone should be praised for the imagination and effort. Great job! |
Yey Rudy!!!, butI am literally getting sick of this... It just amazes me how convenient can tastes be when theres competition... Some of the top photographers in the site have gain their reputation for their DIGITAL ART and editing skills... Have tons of faves on their "expert editing" non challenge pictures... But just make them competition and people will suddendly don`t like that kind of stuff... I am sorry, but it is truly sad that instead of trying to learn of it, you just have to vanish what you THINK you can`t achieve... (and yep... I will gain some "enemies" in here, but I don`t care...) |
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12/15/2006 01:17:09 AM · #43 |
Originally posted by ericwoo:
Originally posted by yanko:
The expert rule set allows more traditional stuff than just the use of bracketed shots/HDR. For one thing you can remove anything you want something not allowed under advance editing. |
Just don't include it in the first place. |
Sometimes that is not possible. Sometimes there are wonderful pictures out there that are marred by immovable objects you can't work around. It's nice to be able to remove them, since that's what we do in the real world. It is, of course, better not to have them in at all, but if it can't be helped, I'm not gonna give up on an otherwise great shot; I'm just not gonna enter it in a basic or advanced challenge :-)
R.
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12/15/2006 01:17:26 AM · #44 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by ericwoo:
Originally posted by yanko:
The expert rule set allows more traditional stuff than just the use of bracketed shots/HDR. For one thing you can remove anything you want something not allowed under advance editing. |
Just don't include it in the first place. |
And what's the reason to do that? I'm not talking about anything introduced in the digital era. |
I was taking about removing anything you want. Just don't include it in the shot, then you don't have to remove it. |
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12/15/2006 01:21:03 AM · #45 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Why is that? |
Damn you Leroy for opening that can of worms :-)
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12/15/2006 01:21:06 AM · #46 |
| I've decided not to vote on the digital art entries because I am leaning toward giving most of them a "1" and I don't know if that is fair given the rules for this challenge. I just wouldn't be able to compare a photograph (even one that has been really worked) against an image of a unicorn jumping over a leprechaun. I'm not against digital art....I quite like it.........but it has its place and in my opinion that isn't DPC. It isn't photography and this, as far as I can tell, is a photography website. |
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12/15/2006 01:21:20 AM · #47 |
Originally posted by Gaby_G:
Yey Rudy!!!, butI am literally getting sick of this... It just amazes me how convenient can tastes be when theres competition... Some of the top photographers in the site have gain their reputation for their DIGITAL ART and editing skills... Have tons of faves on their "expert editing" non challenge pictures... But just make them competition and people will suddendly don`t like that kind of stuff... I am sorry, but it is truly sad that instead of trying to learn of it, you just have to vanish what you THINK you can`t achieve... (and yep... I will gain some "enemies" in here, but I don`t care...) |
Personally, I'm live-and-let-live on this. Some of my top scores in this challenge went to obviously composited or otherwise morphed images. If they are well done I like 'em :-) Not what I usually do myself, but so what?
I'm enjoying the challenge, the variety of images. I'm just hoping the top scores don't fall exclusively in one camp or the other when the results are posted.
R.
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12/15/2006 01:21:25 AM · #48 |
Originally posted by ericwoo:
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by ericwoo:
Originally posted by yanko:
The expert rule set allows more traditional stuff than just the use of bracketed shots/HDR. For one thing you can remove anything you want something not allowed under advance editing. |
Just don't include it in the first place. |
And what's the reason to do that? I'm not talking about anything introduced in the digital era. |
I was taking about removing anything you want. Just don't include it in the shot, then you don't have to remove it. |
Ok but I'm talking about things that you could do in a traditional darkroom and I'm not referring to studio shots where you can move anything you want before hand.
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12/15/2006 01:25:42 AM · #49 |
Originally posted by jaxsond:
It isn't photography and this, as far as I can tell, is a photography website. |
Were we, or were we not required to take all the photos included in the entry ourselves? If so, how is that not photography?
To the contrary, I believe it is harder to match lighting and perspective on a comp (even if it is just adding a sky to a landscape) than it is to take a single shot.
Message edited by author 2006-12-15 01:26:42.
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12/15/2006 01:27:35 AM · #50 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Ok but I'm talking about things that you could do in a traditional darkroom and I'm not referring to studio shots where you can move anything you want before hand. |
I'd be sold on that type of editing, and those all got nice scores from me. I like HDR, and I think its a valuable tool. I just don't like adding parts of other images that obviously don't belong there. I am by no stretch, but some of the entries in this challenge really S T R E T C H the idea of photography. I just don't like it. Not that my opinion is right, or even very valuable for that matter, but that's it. |
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