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12/18/2005 05:47:15 PM · #1 |
| Is it legal for a normal citizen, not a company, to ship a bottle of wine from one state to another? No website will give me a flat out yes or no answer and it's starting to get pretty confusing. |
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12/18/2005 05:52:52 PM · #2 |
Generally speaking, no. The major shipping carriers won't take it anyway.
~Terry
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12/18/2005 05:56:57 PM · #3 |
| check out wine.com- it depends on what state, county etc. |
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12/18/2005 05:57:58 PM · #4 |
| In this community of geniuses (seriously!) can anyone think of a way for me (my parents I mean) to ship wine to friends in Wyoming? I'm driving out there, and want to get them a gift of wine, but I aslo can't drive with it in my car because I'm only 19.... |
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12/18/2005 06:01:55 PM · #5 |
Uhm, I think you can drive with it as long as it isn't open
I suppose it depends on the state, but some places you can have alcohol, you just can't purchase it if you're under 21. Could be wrong.
I don't see why you can't gift wrap it and take it across state borders. Between countries is different, but between states? I flew and drove with booze between states all the time... |
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12/18/2005 06:08:02 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by pidge: Uhm, I think you can drive with it as long as it isn't open
I suppose it depends on the state, but some places you can have alcohol, you just can't purchase it if you're under 21. Could be wrong.
I don't see why you can't gift wrap it and take it across state borders. Between countries is different, but between states? I flew and drove with booze between states all the time... |
If he's under 21, he can't legally posess, transport or consume in ANY state.
Technically it's illegal for ANYONE to transport alcoholic beverages across state lines, but that restriction is rarely enforced.
It looks like wine.com will ship to Wyoming. Perhaps you can have someone over 21 order from them and have it shipped? Someone over 21 will probably need to sign for it at delivery.
~Terry
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12/18/2005 06:09:54 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
If he's under 21, he can't legally posess, transport or consume in ANY state.
Technically it's illegal for ANYONE to transport alcoholic beverages across state lines, but that restriction is rarely enforced.
~Terry |
Well I'll be. Had no idea. Good thing I was never caught. :D |
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12/18/2005 06:37:59 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by Tom: In this community of geniuses (seriously!) can anyone think of a way for me (my parents I mean) to ship wine to friends in Wyoming? I'm driving out there, and want to get them a gift of wine, but I aslo can't drive with it in my car because I'm only 19.... |
Put it in a box. Seal it up. Wrap it. Take it in the car.
If you're not doing any crazy driving or anything suspicious, chances are you aren't getting pulled over. If you do get pulled over, I don't imagine there's much chance they'll want to search the vehicle. I'm not sure what the law is there, but I'd think they'd need a warrant or at least reasonable grounds to search the vehicle. In any case, tearing apart people's cars and ripping open Christmas presents probably isn't a terribly popular activity for cops unless they have a real good reason.
Message edited by author 2005-12-18 18:40:12. |
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12/18/2005 06:39:34 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by pidge: Uhm, I think you can drive with it as long as it isn't open
I suppose it depends on the state, but some places you can have alcohol, you just can't purchase it if you're under 21. Could be wrong.
I don't see why you can't gift wrap it and take it across state borders. Between countries is different, but between states? I flew and drove with booze between states all the time... |
Been there done that and dumped it out while the ociffer stood by. Oh but it wasn't wine though.
Message edited by author 2005-12-18 18:40:58. |
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12/18/2005 07:02:35 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Technically it's illegal for ANYONE to transport alcoholic beverages across state lines, but that restriction is rarely enforced.
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If it's illegal, why are you allowed to carry sealed containers on to a plane flying across state lines ? |
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12/18/2005 07:07:19 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by Gordon: Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Technically it's illegal for ANYONE to transport alcoholic beverages across state lines, but that restriction is rarely enforced.
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If it's illegal, why are you allowed to carry sealed containers on to a plane flying across state lines ? |
Yes, that is quite legal. It is also legal to bring in sealed bottles from most overseas countries. I have brought quite a few bottles in through customs. I think the legality lies in the quantity.
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12/18/2005 07:11:55 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by nsbca7: Originally posted by Gordon: Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Technically it's illegal for ANYONE to transport alcoholic beverages across state lines, but that restriction is rarely enforced.
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If it's illegal, why are you allowed to carry sealed containers on to a plane flying across state lines ? |
Yes, that is quite legal. It is also legal to bring in sealed bottles from most overseas countries. I have brought quite a few bottles in through customs. I think the legality lies in the quantity. |
Right, so 'Technically it's illegal for ANYONE to transport alcoholic beverages across state lines, but that restriction is rarely enforced.' is unlikely to be true.
Message edited by author 2005-12-18 19:12:06. |
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12/18/2005 07:14:28 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Technically it's illegal for ANYONE to transport alcoholic beverages across state lines, but that restriction is rarely enforced.
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When I have been in Kansas City, I have parked in Kansas, walked across the street to a liquor store in Missouri, made my purchase, walked back across the street to Kansas, gotten in my car and driven off. All under the watchful eye of a policeman. No hassles. Thousands of people do it every day.
I have also shipped wine/beer and liquor as gifts across state lines and no shipper has ever refused when told what the contents were. Commercially, states can regulate the shipping of alchoholic beverages directly to customers in their states, but not between two private citizens.
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12/18/2005 07:16:59 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99: Commercially, states can regulate the shipping of alchoholic beverages directly to customers in their states, but not between two private citizens. |
Is this 100% true? That'd be awesome if it is! |
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12/18/2005 07:20:12 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99: Commercially, states can regulate the shipping of alchoholic beverages directly to customers in their states ... |
I believe a recent Supreme Court ruling struck down most of these restrictions as well.
Message edited by author 2005-12-18 19:21:52. |
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12/18/2005 07:22:55 PM · #16 |
| Ok guys, so if I go and do this, and get caught and have to pay a huge fine, can we collectivly as a group raise my bail money and the fine payment? |
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12/18/2005 07:29:19 PM · #17 |
Shipping restrictions by state
This is for shipping only. Every state has a limit on how much you may legally transport across state lines. For wine, it is usually in the area of 4 gallons. Hard alcohol may be limited to as little as 2 bottles.
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12/18/2005 07:29:49 PM · #18 |
I work for a MAJOR carrier and a customer (big company) shipped a bottle to one of their customers as a thank you about 4 years ago. The bottle broke and the Fed's contacted my company and they um.....notified me that it was not legal to do that. I don't know if any penalties were involved, but I imagine there were.
Check here for local laws.
P.S. I got $1.00 for your fine if you need 
Message edited by author 2005-12-18 19:32:03.
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12/18/2005 07:35:08 PM · #19 |
Justice Kennedyâs majority opinion clearly spells out that states cannot allow in-state wineries to ship to their consumers, and deny that same privilege to out-of-state wineries. âWe hold that the laws of both states [New York and Michigan] discriminate against interstate commerce in violation of the Commerce Clause, and that discrimination is neither authorized nor permitted by the Twenty-first Amendment.â
But this does not directly address shipment from private citizen to citizen.
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12/18/2005 07:36:46 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by MrEd: Check here for local laws.
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These are the people who are lobbying to restrict shippment.
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12/18/2005 08:25:25 PM · #21 |
| The US is just so screwed up about this (living most of my life in Australia). I love the fact that the grog shops are closed here (Mass) on Sundays for "religious" reasons except around Christmas when they make a temp exemption - go figure. |
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12/18/2005 08:31:15 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by nsbca7: Originally posted by MrEd: Check here for local laws.
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These are the people who are lobbying to restrict shippment. |
But, the laws don't change no matter who posts the links for the states.
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12/18/2005 09:51:50 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by GeneralE: Originally posted by Spazmo99: Commercially, states can regulate the shipping of alchoholic beverages directly to customers in their states ... |
I believe a recent Supreme Court ruling struck down most of these restrictions as well. |
The ruling was that a state can't prevent out of state wineries from shipping to state residents while allowing in-state wineries to do so. A state can either allow all shipments of wine to it's residents or ban them all, but it can't give preferential treatment to in-state wineries.
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12/18/2005 10:01:04 PM · #24 |
in customs its generally 2 bottles of hard liquor that's the limit.
I'm not sure about the driving laws...never had to deal with that myself really.
This is just yet another example where the United States legal sensibility (read utter stupidity and lack of common sense) of making the drinking age higher than the voting (and fighting for our country) age compounds simple daily tasks. I'm not a big drinker but man I think the 21 law is inane...just be 18 like the rest of the places...it works out fine.
rant done. |
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