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 04/08/2005 07:04:37 PM · #1
Not a very good photo -- but hoping someone knows what type of bird this is.
04/08/2005 07:09:09 PM · #2
Its just a Hawk isn't it?
 04/08/2005 07:12:51 PM · #3
The pic is a lil too small for a positive id, but if it looked anything like this



it would be an immature bald eagle.

It may be a red tailed hawk...

Message edited by author 2005-04-08 19:13:55.
 04/08/2005 07:15:49 PM · #4
No the beak on my photo looks to small. Might be a red tailed hawk.
 04/08/2005 08:30:50 PM · #5
Red tailed Hawk
04/08/2005 08:44:19 PM · #6

The wings and body look to long for a redtail to me! I really don`t know what it is?

Message edited by author 2005-04-08 20:45:13.
 04/08/2005 08:55:49 PM · #7
Originally posted by buzzrock:
Its just a Hawk isn't it?


You know I used to think that before until I started taking pictures of the birds we have at work.

My work is right on the edge of an open area on top of a mesa...every day a fellow IT guy and I go out back for about an hour and shoot the local birds of prey... Every day we get to see (2) White Tailed kites, several Red Tailed Hawks and just in the past week a Kestrel has come in...So far he has had better luck with his Sigma Bigma, but when I get that perfect shot (they need to be a little closer for my 70-200mm 4L + 1.4x TC) I will post it here.

I used to think they were all just hawks...then again I used to call all small birds chickadees...
 04/08/2005 09:07:29 PM · #8
I also think pirds of prey are much more interesting!! There are quite a few merlins where I live in Ottawa at the moment.

Message edited by author 2005-04-09 19:18:12.
 04/09/2005 11:00:51 AM · #9
Well this bird keeps showing up around the house late afternoon. I will try and get a better pic today.
 04/09/2005 11:18:54 AM · #10
It is a small pic, but I'll send it down to my mother who used to rehabilitate birds of prey, and mention that it's in Louisiana and see if she can come up with anything. Definitely not a red-tailed.
 04/09/2005 12:25:11 PM · #11
Here's her reply:

My guess is a juvenile harrier (marsh hawk). The wings are in dihedral (shallow V) like a turkey vulture - most hawks hold wings flat like eagles. Juvies are brown. What habitat was the bird near?

Immature eagles don't have any barring on the tails or wings like that, and actually have a lot of white on the underparts..so no, sorry, not an immature eagle. Wings at the dihedral on a hawk are pretty conclusive...Also notice the tail is long and 'closed' - not fanned. Harrier.
04/09/2005 03:24:05 PM · #12
Mom knows her stuff. LOL

Robt.
 04/09/2005 04:14:40 PM · #13
Its not a harrier (white rump would show), bald eagle (have massive bills an their heads stick out way beyond the wings), golden eagle (do not occur in LA), Red-shouldered is possible, but the tail looks to long. So, to me looks like a red-tailed. Broad-winged is also possible. Ya may have to look at its tail in good light to see if it is rusty. Red-shouldered and broad winged have banded tails. Van
 04/09/2005 06:51:29 PM · #14
Originally posted by rscorp:
Here's her reply:

My guess is a juvenile harrier (marsh hawk). The wings are in dihedral (shallow V) like a turkey vulture - most hawks hold wings flat like eagles. Juvies are brown. What habitat was the bird near?

Immature eagles don't have any barring on the tails or wings like that, and actually have a lot of white on the underparts..so no, sorry, not an immature eagle. Wings at the dihedral on a hawk are pretty conclusive...Also notice the tail is long and 'closed' - not fanned. Harrier.


There is no way that is a redtailed!!!It looks like it could be a Zone-tailed Hawk(mature)or second a common black(mature)!If the picture is from California then that would definetly be my guess with the position of the stripe on the tail and colors match!
Neil
I see your in Louisiana. I agree with Van (Broad winged)

Message edited by author 2005-04-09 19:05:47.
 04/09/2005 06:55:02 PM · #15
Immature Mississippi Kite?
 04/09/2005 07:06:04 PM · #16
If that's a Red Tailed, I'll eat nothing but Haggis for a year. Given the shape of the tail, the brown color and the V position of the wings, if it's a Hawk then I think my mother is right for an immature Marsh. If not, then it's some other bird from Louisiana she knows nothing about. I assume the shot is from that state anyway, if not that could change things.

I guess it could be a broad wing but they are tiny little things and their underside from what I know is very light. Juvies aren't brown either I think.

Message edited by author 2005-04-09 19:09:41.
 04/09/2005 07:13:28 PM · #17
Originally posted by rscorp:
If that's a Red Tailed, I'll eat nothing but Haggis for a year. Given the shape of the tail, the brown color and the V position of the wings, if it's a Hawk then I think my mother is right for an immature Marsh. If not, then it's some other bird from Louisiana she knows nothing about. I assume the shot is from that state anyway, if not that could change things.

I guess it could be a broad wing but they are tiny little things and their underside from what I know is very light. Juvies aren't brown either I think.

Rob your Mom is probably correct,I have two bird books but they don`t have a Marsh Hawk in Them!!&^*%. So I will agree with the experts!LOL
;-)
The long tail would indicate Harrier and the broad winged does have a light underside.

Message edited by author 2005-04-09 19:23:05.
 04/09/2005 07:38:45 PM · #18
The second shot certainly is a bald eagle..the first one is too blurred to get a good look.

Message edited by author 2005-04-09 19:39:44.
 04/09/2005 09:33:17 PM · #19
Well of course, no sight of him today. And yes I am in Louisiana along a small river called the Vermillion. This is just one of many things I like about photography, not only am I learning how to take photos I also have to learn about birds of pray now. Photography -- new insight into new thinks.
 04/10/2005 12:12:34 AM · #20
After looking at the photo again and re-thinking it. The hawk appears more Red-shouldered than Red-tailed. Its barred tail and wing tips look very much correct. Broad-wing is out, tail to long and wings too narrow, Red-tailed is still possible, especially if the tail is closed a bit. Marsh Hawk(No. Harrier)wings are more bent toward primary flight feathers and they have an owl-like face, nothing like this hawk. Zone-tailed have a much more verticle lift in wings. (Tail banding in Zone-tailed is more distinct and way out of range for this species to be in LA). All Louisiana kites have pointed wing tips (except Snail & Hook-billed, which would be very rare), like falcons.

Here is a Golden eagle and red-tailed I took last Wednsday. Look at long wings and size of the eagle. red-tail is typical adult form.


04/10/2005 12:30:27 AM · #21
After looking a other pic. of red tailed and harris I would be leaning toward the harris. Again I am no bird expert by any means. I see a longer lens coming my way. Again I have seen this bird several times and WILL get another shot.
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