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06/20/2011 10:30:04 PM
May
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Comment by GinaRothfels:
Congratulations. Now you're starting to see what you're capable of.
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May
06/20/2011 01:23:39 PM
May
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Comment by SEG:
Nice score. Congrats on the PB. Keep up the good ones coming!
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May
06/19/2011 08:47:45 PM
May
by Tolt

Comment by mbrutus2009:
Not sure if the background is something I like.. Might be because it is not as out of focus as I like. Then again this is only my opinion!
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May
06/17/2011 11:58:16 AM
May
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Comment by blindjustice:
great placement; awesome color. I like this one to go far. top 10 at least.
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May
06/16/2011 11:17:12 AM
May
by Tolt

Comment by LoVi:
Best flower shot in a long time. Perfect composition, DOF, colors......makes me smile.....widely ear to ear! I want a print of this.
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Nobody's Making Honey Here...
06/16/2011 04:11:32 AM
Nobody's Making Honey Here...
by Tolt

Comment by spiritualspatula:
I'm going to separate my comment into two parts- one discussing the idea of DNMC and one about the photo itself, separate of that.
You mentioned that you would like closer guidelines, but the idea of DNMC has nothing to do with guidelines themselves and everything to do with how they are interpreted. It has to do with what voters think of when they consider a subject. Consider the challenge "Coffee." If somebody were to enter a shot of a container of creamer, sure, it's related, but when you first think Coffee, is creamer the summation of the thought? Even if it is, you need to consider what everybody else would conjure up from the prompt, and it's not very likely that the majority of people, when given the prompt "Coffee" would think of creamer. If you extend this to your photo, sure, flowers are necessary to the prompt, but you don't depict things that are integral to the concept in people's minds (namely, honey or bees). I certainly understand where you're going with this, and idea-wise, it's good, but if it weren't for your title, this shot has very limited relation to the subject. A strong piece will speak for itself, it won't need to be explained by your caption. It's like a joke- a good joke shouldn't need to be broken down. But, people thinking things are DNMC is very fickle. Sometimes you'll see obviously DNMC photos take top honors in challenges, so you never really know. Sometimes people ignore DNMC when they feel the photo is THAT good.
As for the actual photo itself-
I like the lighting, and the fashion that it is lighter on one half of the frame and darker on the other, it pulls me to the focal point. But, the photo itself feels sorta static, as I'm pulled into the dead center of the photo visually, and then my eye stays there, and that's it. There isn't much else to draw me, or to add to things. Overall, there isn't a whole lot wrong with this as a photo of a flower beyond the fact that we've all seen lots of photos of flowers and this blends into those and feels unremarkable. Flower shots really have to wow to stand out. Often this is achieved by stunning or strange flowers (like this entry of mine, for instance, which surely scored higher out of peculiarity Copyrighted_Image_Reuse_Prohibited_806833.jpg). Another way is to portray the subject in a way we haven't seen, giving us something unusual and unique, a refreshing change of pace. For your image, we have have a view of lilacs which we are most all acutely familiar with.
So, it's not so much as what you did wrong, so much as what you didn't do to make this stand out, and particularly coupled with many feeling your entry was DNMC. Keep at things and don't worry about the scores too much. Starting out here can be pretty hard, but once you get a little used to things it's a great place to learn.
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Nobody's Making Honey Here...
06/16/2011 04:11:21 AM
Nobody's Making Honey Here...
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Comment by spiritualspatula:
sorry for the double post... it didn't want to send....

Message edited by author 2011-06-16 04:12:42.
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May
06/15/2011 04:51:17 PM
May
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Comment by geinafets:
The green is a little oversaturated for me, but the placement of all the flowers worked out so well! Great composition.
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Nobody's Making Honey Here...
06/15/2011 02:00:02 PM
Nobody's Making Honey Here...
by Tolt

Comment by JuliBoc:
You asked for help understanding why this didn't fit the challenge. I think I was a little abrupt in my first comment, but that really explains all those low votes.

It is a very nice photo of the lilac, and judging by the number of high votes you received, many people thought your way of interpreting the challenge was valid.

There is a group of members here that sometimes reward photos like this with an OOBie. It stands for Out Of the Box. It's for good photos that meet the challenge, but with a different approach or way of thinking than the majority of the entries. This should definitely be an OOBie contender, if the group is still awarding them.

If you care about getting a higher score, which many people don't, you need to be more obvious in your choice of subject. Many voters don't even read the description of the challenge, just the title, and they only view the photo for an instant (not enough time to follow out-of-the-box logic). This is always a problem for participants who are competing for the ribbons. For me, I use the challenges as challenges -- to take the best shot I can on a specific topic. I don't care about the competition, but of course I like getting high scores -- it gives me a little validation. And I have received a couple of OOBies myself. I proudly display them on my profile page. :)
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Nobody's Making Honey Here...
06/15/2011 12:46:59 PM
Nobody's Making Honey Here...
by Tolt

Comment by PennyStreet:
I got it - gave the flowers a great score. And I love your thinking (no brain warp there that I can tell)
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