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02/21/2010 09:58:59 PM · #1 |
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02/21/2010 10:01:44 PM · #2 |
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02/21/2010 10:02:51 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by VitaminB:
BOOOOOOO |
Sore loser, eh? |
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02/21/2010 10:03:41 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by franktheyank:
Originally posted by VitaminB:
BOOOOOOO |
Sore loser, eh? |
Oh yeah.... the game wasnt as fun to watch this side of the border :( |
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02/21/2010 10:13:50 PM · #5 |
| Wooot!!!! That had to sting for the home crowd. |
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02/21/2010 10:41:59 PM · #6 |
Miller time. Might as well nailed the US goal shut with plywood. With a three inch hole in it, our chances would have been just about equal.
What really got me were the CBC commentators with their statistics. Sure enough, ice 5:3, statistics 3:5. |
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02/21/2010 10:55:28 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by zeuszen:
Miller time. Might as well nailed the US goal shut with plywood. With a three inch hole in it, our chances would have been just about equal.
What really got me were the CBC commentators with their statistics. Sure enough, ice 5:3, statistics 3:5. |
I wonder what the record is for teams that outshoot their opponents by a 2-1 margin. I'm guessing not as great as the shots would imply.
Message edited by author 2010-02-21 22:56:07.
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02/21/2010 11:00:37 PM · #8 |
| What now? Canada has to beat Germany to be in the quarters or something... |
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02/21/2010 11:04:38 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by zeuszen:
Miller time. Might as well nailed the US goal shut with plywood. With a three inch hole in it, our chances would have been just about equal.
What really got me were the CBC commentators with their statistics. Sure enough, ice 5:3, statistics 3:5. |
I wonder what the record is for teams that outshoot their opponents by a 2-1 margin. I'm guessing not as great as the shots would imply. |
I don't have a clue. I can't even skate. Just couldn't get out of the armchair. |
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02/21/2010 11:30:19 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by Louis:
What now? Canada has to beat Germany to be in the quarters or something... |
They now have to win 4 games instead of 3 in order to win the gold and they will most likely be forced to face Russia before a medal game. Being how they barely got past the Swiss and couldn't solve the Americans, the chances of a medal has taken a serious hit. Better order a few more cases of Molson.
Message edited by author 2010-02-21 23:31:05.
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02/22/2010 03:09:01 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by Louis:
What now? Canada has to beat Germany to be in the quarters or something... |
They now have to win 4 games instead of 3 in order to win the gold and they will most likely be forced to face Russia before a medal game. Being how they barely got past the Swiss and couldn't solve the Americans, the chances of a medal has taken a serious hit. Better order a few more cases of Molson. |
The only way they get past Russia (I can't see them losing to Germany, even if Brodeur pulls an idiot like he did tonight), is if Russia brings the game they did against the Slovaks, and NOT the one they did against the Czechs.
I hate to say it, but Canada's roster is too full of big-name chokers. Thornton should have NEVER been chosen. Any team with Thornton on it will never win anything important. Ever. |
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02/22/2010 07:49:34 AM · #12 |
| It's all Harper's fault. :) |
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02/22/2010 09:08:11 AM · #13 |
I haven't been in the States since last July so I haven't heard much hype about the Olympics until they started last week. Was the USA Hockey Team expected to be any good this time around... All I heard at the opening of the Olympics is how Canada was supposed to be the high card and dominate the show. So far it looks like the USA is holding their own against some pretty good teams... Was it supposed to be like this or is it a surprise?
There is not much mention of Hockey here in New Zealand. I believe it has to do with the lack of Cold Weather and Ice. Hell they don't even put ice cubes in drinks at alot of places down here. Nothing like a warm glass of coke to wash down your lunch. |
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02/22/2010 01:20:50 PM · #14 |
| Brian, it was a bit of a shock. They are referring to it as the "mini" Miracle on Ice. |
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02/22/2010 01:28:28 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Bugzeye:
There is not much mention of Hockey here in New Zealand. I believe it has to do with the lack of Cold Weather and Ice. |
The NHL has franchises in Florida, Phoenix, Los Angeles, Anaheim, and San Jose -- not exactly known for their Arctic climate. And I though NZ was known as a world-class skiing destination site ...? |
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02/22/2010 01:34:55 PM · #16 |
hard to build an ice rink on a mountain side - the puck would always be sliding one way ;)
though i am sure it's not impossible.
Originally posted by GeneralE:
And I though NZ was known as a world-class skiing destination site ...? |
Message edited by author 2010-02-22 13:35:27.
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02/22/2010 01:53:56 PM · #17 |
There were a few reasons Canada lost (in my opinion):
The first 2 minutes they came out flat as a pancake. Had they played anything like they did in the second period and at the end of the third period? It would have been a different game
Ryan Miller: Canada came up against a hot goalie. Miller must be the son a plumber because he stopped everything INCLUDING the kitchen sink last night. If anyone other than Miller was in net, Canada would have filled the net with rubber and burnt out the goal light.
Dumb penalties: Canada got frustrated in the third and it showed. And they paid for it.
Sid the Kid factor? -3 in the game I believe. He needed to be better. And um...not deflect the puck into his own net.
In the end Canada didn't get outplayed by the Americans. They got outscored.
As for the opinion that beating Germany is a foregone conclusion? A wouldn't bet on it. The Germans have a better team than the Swiss and Canada almost lost to the Swiss. (And DID in Turino). I think Canada needs to stomp Germany to get its mojo back.
Its an uphill climb from here but hopefully they can learn from this experience and build from here.
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02/22/2010 02:19:42 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by soup:
hard to build an ice rink on a mountain side - the puck would always be sliding one way ;)
though i am sure it's not impossible. |
It's been possible for at least fifty years: Olympic Ice Pavilion
"Perched at the crest of Squaw Valley's upper mountain, the rink offers unmatched panoramic views of the Squaw Valley Meadow, beautiful Lake Tahoe and the surrounding Sierra Nevada." |
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02/22/2010 05:09:48 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by Citadel:
There were a few reasons Canada lost (in my opinion):
The first 2 minutes they came out flat as a pancake. Had they played anything like they did in the second period and at the end of the third period? It would have been a different game
Ryan Miller: Canada came up against a hot goalie. Miller must be the son a plumber because he stopped everything INCLUDING the kitchen sink last night. If anyone other than Miller was in net, Canada would have filled the net with rubber and burnt out the goal light.
Dumb penalties: Canada got frustrated in the third and it showed. And they paid for it.
Sid the Kid factor? -3 in the game I believe. He needed to be better. And um...not deflect the puck into his own net.
In the end Canada didn't get outplayed by the Americans. They got outscored.
As for the opinion that beating Germany is a foregone conclusion? A wouldn't bet on it. The Germans have a better team than the Swiss and Canada almost lost to the Swiss. (And DID in Turino). I think Canada needs to stomp Germany to get its mojo back.
Its an uphill climb from here but hopefully they can learn from this experience and build from here. |
Well, I wouldn't simply dismiss Miller as a hot goalie. He's elite and more than capable of continuing that performance throughout the tournament. Canada's problem is one of ego and pressure. Luongo should have been the starter. Brodeur may think he's Patrick Roy but he's not. He's simply not a good fit for this team and how they want to play. As for pressure it's only going to increase and so far few up front have shown an ability to handle it. K10Dguy mentioned Thornton but he's not the only forward who has a poor track record in big games. This was never the case with the elite Canadien teams of the past.
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02/22/2010 06:00:25 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by Citadel:
There were a few reasons Canada lost (in my opinion):
The first 2 minutes they came out flat as a pancake. Had they played anything like they did in the second period and at the end of the third period? It would have been a different game
Ryan Miller: Canada came up against a hot goalie. Miller must be the son a plumber because he stopped everything INCLUDING the kitchen sink last night. If anyone other than Miller was in net, Canada would have filled the net with rubber and burnt out the goal light.
Dumb penalties: Canada got frustrated in the third and it showed. And they paid for it.
Sid the Kid factor? -3 in the game I believe. He needed to be better. And um...not deflect the puck into his own net.
In the end Canada didn't get outplayed by the Americans. They got outscored.
As for the opinion that beating Germany is a foregone conclusion? A wouldn't bet on it. The Germans have a better team than the Swiss and Canada almost lost to the Swiss. (And DID in Turino). I think Canada needs to stomp Germany to get its mojo back.
Its an uphill climb from here but hopefully they can learn from this experience and build from here. |
Well, I wouldn't simply dismiss Miller as a hot goalie. He's elite and more than capable of continuing that performance throughout the tournament. Canada's problem is one of ego and pressure. Luongo should have been the starter. Brodeur may think he's Patrick Roy but he's not. He's simply not a good fit for this team and how they want to play. As for pressure it's only going to increase and so far few up front have shown an ability to handle it. K10Dguy mentioned Thornton but he's not the only forward who has a poor track record in big games. This was never the case with the elite Canadien teams of the past. |
I can't blame any Canadian hockey fan for listing the reasons that their team lost to the Americans. I assume the same would be said from our side of the border if we had lost.
It boils down to heart. The Americans out hustled and played more like a team than did their more talented opponents. It will be surprising to see Brodeur in the net against Germany. He has struggled through a lot of this season (NHL) as has Luongo recently so there is no hot hand to go to. If Canada is to continue to the medal round they will need to live up to their potential. First beat undermanned Germany then take on Russia. As for the Americans, they are enjoying the role of underdog. I am looking forward to the rest of the tourney. |
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02/22/2010 06:13:45 PM · #21 |
Main reason Canada lost: goaltending
Brodeur was making a lot of mistakes and should have been pulled after period 1.
Ryan Miller was excellent in the US net.
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02/22/2010 06:20:16 PM · #22 |
| I see very little as far as the challenge Germany will pose. But there are two negative downsides to Canada's loss last night: The obvious extra game they'll have to play (not that they'll lose it, but it's fatigue none the less), but more importantly the matchup with Russia in the quarter finals. People had predicted that to be the gold medal game, and now one of these heavyweights will be knocked out in a non-medal game. |
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02/22/2010 06:57:45 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by scooter97:
It boils down to heart. The Americans out hustled and played more like a team than did their more talented opponents. |
I bet Canada wishes they had Kesler instead of Perry on their team right about now. As a Stars fan it was nice to see him silence the Vancouver home crowd for a change. He's done that way too often against Dallas.
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02/22/2010 07:07:03 PM · #24 |
There is no established pro hockey league here, and with only 4 million people, The interest in Ice Skating is at a minimum. Alot of Skiiing down on the south island. Where they do have mountains full of snow. But up here on the north island it doesn't snow very often and hardly ever gets cold enough to sustain ice.
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Bugzeye:
There is not much mention of Hockey here in New Zealand. I believe it has to do with the lack of Cold Weather and Ice. |
The NHL has franchises in Florida, Phoenix, Los Angeles, Anaheim, and San Jose -- not exactly known for their Arctic climate. And I though NZ was known as a world-class skiing destination site ...? |
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02/22/2010 07:33:17 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by Bugzeye:
I haven't been in the States since last July so I haven't heard much hype about the Olympics until they started last week. Was the USA Hockey Team expected to be any good this time around... All I heard at the opening of the Olympics is how Canada was supposed to be the high card and dominate the show. So far it looks like the USA is holding their own against some pretty good teams... Was it supposed to be like this or is it a surprise?
There is not much mention of Hockey here in New Zealand. I believe it has to do with the lack of Cold Weather and Ice. Hell they don't even put ice cubes in drinks at alot of places down here. Nothing like a warm glass of coke to wash down your lunch. |
I think they may have been referring to the Canadian Women's Hockey team. I wasn't holding out much for the mens team especially after their performance agains Switzerland. |
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