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08/20/2009 12:36:13 PM · #1
Discussion was raised back in 2005 and then all threads pertaining to it were eventually locked. It's now almost 5 years later. Isn't it time to upsize to 800 pixels? Or will it never happen? Will this thread also end up getting locked?
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08/20/2009 12:49:06 PM · #2
Yes I second that. Maybe there should be a survey to find out what percentage of dpc users do not have screens that can view 800 pixel shots without scrolling.
08/20/2009 12:53:21 PM · #3
Just remember, this is not a majority rule site. Even if only 1% of people are still using smaller monitors then that may trump any idea of increasing the size.
08/20/2009 12:58:55 PM · #4
You may have missed this recent thread:

Size increase for challenges?

08/20/2009 12:59:00 PM · #5
I would love to go to 800 and add a provision to water mark, without the water mark increasing the size makes them that much more likely to be stolen. As far as scrolling goes I do that now on some of the portrait configured images.
08/20/2009 01:00:40 PM · #6
Originally posted by Sangiro:

Discussion was raised back in 2005 and then all threads pertaining to it were eventually locked. It's now almost 5 years later. Isn't it time to upsize to 800 pixels? Or will it never happen? Will this thread also end up getting locked?

The member challenges were raised to 720px in 2007, and your insinuation that the issue was ignored by the admins is a very poor approach. Note that 800px would require scrolling for the many users with monitor resolutions of less than 968 pixels tall.
08/20/2009 01:22:02 PM · #7
I just put an image in my workshop with a height of 800pixels and indeed I would have to scroll in order to see the whole image on my macbook

Message edited by author 2009-08-20 13:22:21.
08/20/2009 01:27:20 PM · #8
I understand that it would be ridiculous if some viewers would have to scroll, but excuse my ignorance if this has been discussed before, but what is the reason for the smaller 640 pixel limit in the week challenges?
08/20/2009 01:53:38 PM · #9
I'd rather have 300k or 400k file size rather than extra pixels in length/width. Way too much compression going at 150k or 200k for my liking. Of course there may still be dial up users out there who would dread the larger size...
08/20/2009 01:58:48 PM · #10
Originally posted by prperold:

...what is the reason for the smaller 640 pixel limit in the week challenges?

Back when the site started in 2002, it was a practical matter of slow internet connections and smaller monitors. Now it's just a [free] teaser for the registered users.
08/20/2009 01:59:19 PM · #11
Originally posted by prperold:

I understand that it would be ridiculous if some viewers would have to scroll, but excuse my ignorance if this has been discussed before, but what is the reason for the smaller 640 pixel limit in the week challenges?


So there's some incentive to buy a membership and gain access to the challenges which allow the larger size? Just a thought.

On occasion there are challenges for non-paying users which allow the larger size.
08/20/2009 02:12:35 PM · #12
Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by prperold:

...what is the reason for the smaller 640 pixel limit in the week challenges?

Back when the site started in 2002, it was a practical matter of slow internet connections and smaller monitors. Now it's just a [free] teaser for the registered users.


Aaah, makes sense. Thanks for clearing it up.
08/20/2009 04:08:47 PM · #13
Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by prperold:

...what is the reason for the smaller 640 pixel limit in the week challenges?

Back when the site started in 2002, it was a practical matter of slow internet connections and smaller monitors. Now it's just a [free] teaser for the registered users.


And a pain in the arse for paid members :)
08/20/2009 04:26:36 PM · #14
Everybody is asking for more pixels, but nobody is asking for FEWER pixels.

I think the non-members should be punished by limiting entries to, say... 100 pixels. Eventually they will become accustomed to the 100 pixel limit, then, like gas companies, DPC can raise the limit to 200 pixels and all of the lowly registered users will rejoice and be happy while the elite Full Members chuckle over their cognac.




08/20/2009 04:33:29 PM · #15
Originally posted by prperold:

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by prperold:

...what is the reason for the smaller 640 pixel limit in the week challenges?

Back when the site started in 2002, it was a practical matter of slow internet connections and smaller monitors. Now it's just a [free] teaser for the registered users.

Aaah, makes sense. Thanks for clearing it up.

The real reason is that it's just too depressing to look at all those bad photos at a larger size.

Kidding!!!

08/20/2009 04:41:47 PM · #16
My camera won't shoot anything larger than 800 pixels!
08/20/2009 04:55:15 PM · #17
Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by prperold:

...what is the reason for the smaller 640 pixel limit in the week challenges?

Back when the site started in 2002, it was a practical matter of slow internet connections and smaller monitors. Now it's just a [free] teaser for the registered users.


A free teaser? Come on now. If that were the case, the open challenge option would be a single option every week and the member challenges would have two entry options. That, along with the 4 people that still have macbooks that can't see 800 px without scrolling, have become silly arguments...in my opinion. However, I am glad that someone else finally brought the problem up again. I betcha $1 it will again be ignored.
08/20/2009 05:31:09 PM · #18
Originally posted by ericwoo:

If that were the case, the open challenge option would be a single option every week and the member challenges would have two entry options.

The Open challenge WAS one option every week until their popularity resulted in having to vote on 400+ images on a regular basis. It was split to reduce the number of entries in a single challenge, and you've been around here long enough to know that. At last check, 43% of the members would have to scroll to see an 800px image. That's a lot of MacBooks.
08/20/2009 06:22:28 PM · #19
Well how about 800x720, Then everyone should be happy.
Would it hurt to do a trial at this size? Lets's face it, the number of entries is plummeting.
At this rate you will have to go back to a single open challenge.
08/20/2009 06:48:58 PM · #20
Originally posted by scalvert:

Note that 800px would require scrolling for the many users with monitor resolutions of less than 968 pixels tall.


F11 does the job for the landscape oriented photos.
08/20/2009 06:53:09 PM · #21
Make open challenges at least 720. I became a member before the switch to 720 for member challenges so it was not part of my consideration when I decided to pony up the dough. But I am a member for these reasons; Portfolio space, more challenge topics to shoot for, the chance to use advanced editing on a regular basis, and the update button. I assume anyone considering becoming a member would have the most interest in portfolio space than being able to enter at a 720 pixel image in a challenge. It just doesn't seem like a very good teaser. I don't see the point of 640 for registered users, I think it just hurts the site to have such small images for open challenge entries. Are there any other sites out there that still use 640 as a maximum image size? Why do I have to be teased by small open challenge entries, I already paid. If you want to keep it as a teaser for registered users, allow everyone to upload open challenge entries at 720 pixels, but registered users will see the images at 640 and vote that way and members will get to see the 720 version and vote that way. Just my two cents.
08/21/2009 02:56:17 AM · #22
Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by Sangiro:

Discussion was raised back in 2005 and then all threads pertaining to it were eventually locked. It's now almost 5 years later. Isn't it time to upsize to 800 pixels? Or will it never happen? Will this thread also end up getting locked?

The member challenges were raised to 720px in 2007, and your insinuation that the issue was ignored by the admins is a very poor approach. Note that 800px would require scrolling for the many users with monitor resolutions of less than 968 pixels tall.


I was not trying to insinuate that the issue was ignored by admin at all. It's unfortunate that you interpret it like that. Also I wasn't aware that such small monitors exist that you need to scroll to view a 800x600 pixel image. I have one of those mini netbooks for when I travel and I can view an 800x600 pixel image on it's small screen comfortably with space to spare.

You may have noticed that netbook screens tend to come in standard sizes with standard display resolutions. That’s because there are a handful of display panel makers that actually supply most computer makers with the screens that find their way into netbooks. Eee PC Italia put together a good list of existing screen sizes and resolutions for netbooks (as well as a few larger mini-notebooks).

Here are the results in a nutshell, but make sure to head on over to Eee PC Italia if you want more information about the exact dimensions of each screen size and which netbook models use which screens:

* 7 inch - 800 x 480 pixels
* 8.9 inch – 1024 x 600 pixels
* 10.1 inch – 1024 x 576 pixels or 1366 x 768 pixels
* 10.2 inch – 1024 x 600 pixels
* 11.6 inch – 1366 x 768 pixels
* 12.1 inch – 1280 x 800 pixels
//www.liliputing.com/2009/04/a-thorough-examination-of-netbook-screen-sizes.html
08/21/2009 10:13:05 AM · #23
This will probably never happen. Even after a Poll in which a large percentage of Members/Users favored 720 and 800 over the current 640 was conducted almost 2 years ago. Maybe it is time for another Poll and see where we stand on the issue?
08/21/2009 10:18:34 AM · #24
I would have to scroll to see 800 pixel images. And to be completely honest, I'd probably vote without scrolling, unless I really like the image. Which is unfortunate, because I'd probably miss something. But it's really obnoxious to have to scroll on each image.

I would like to see open challenges raised to 720. I keep all my photos at 720 in the vertical, but I'd love larger sizes allowed in the horizontal. (I know that seems wrong, but I like the idea!)
08/21/2009 10:24:55 AM · #25
ctrl+minus = make image smaller in your browser so you don't have to scroll. Digital Photography and Low Resolution just don't go together.. buy a bigger monitor/laptop=)
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