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06/18/2009 11:04:58 PM · #1 |
| Having just completed an entry for a "basic rules" challenge, I was forced to change the crop and overall presentation because of the 640 pixel (longest dimension) constraint. In this day of bigger monitors and high definition, it seems odd to me that dpchallenge.com is stuck on an old standard. The 640 pixel constraint alters crops and subject selection. That selection is usually a more simplistic and less detailed subject. I'm certain this is a nod to those with less capable, lower resolution, smaller sensor equipment. My suggestion is to allow 720 pixels for the basic editing. Then, the subject could be well presented, while constraining the technique to best efforts at the image capture level. |
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06/18/2009 11:31:58 PM · #2 |
| It's been suggested before and it would be nice. On the other hand, it provides another reason for someone to upgrade to a paid membership. The move to 720 pixels for advanced only happened just after I joined in '07. |
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06/18/2009 11:34:29 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by hahn23:
Having just completed an entry for a "basic rules" challenge, I was forced to change the crop and overall presentation because of the 640 pixel (longest dimension) constraint. In this day of bigger monitors and high definition, it seems odd to me that dpchallenge.com is stuck on an old standard. The 640 pixel constraint alters crops and subject selection. That selection is usually a more simplistic and less detailed subject. I'm certain this is a nod to those with less capable, lower resolution, smaller sensor equipment. My suggestion is to allow 720 pixels for the basic editing. Then, the subject could be well presented, while constraining the technique to best efforts at the image capture level. |
Why stop at 720? Why not larger? |
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06/18/2009 11:36:42 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by bspurgeon:
Originally posted by hahn23:
Having just completed an entry for a "basic rules" challenge, I was forced to change the crop and overall presentation because of the 640 pixel (longest dimension) constraint. In this day of bigger monitors and high definition, it seems odd to me that dpchallenge.com is stuck on an old standard. The 640 pixel constraint alters crops and subject selection. That selection is usually a more simplistic and less detailed subject. I'm certain this is a nod to those with less capable, lower resolution, smaller sensor equipment. My suggestion is to allow 720 pixels for the basic editing. Then, the subject could be well presented, while constraining the technique to best efforts at the image capture level. |
Why stop at 720? Why not larger? |
Well, I think the ideal would be 720 pixel constraint on the vertical and 800 pixel constraint on the horizontal, if you press me for the optimal solution! Thanks for asking!
Message edited by author 2009-06-19 00:11:10. |
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06/19/2009 12:33:19 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by bspurgeon:
Why stop at 720? Why not larger? |
because the site evolve at a rate similar to the movement of the earth's plates |
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06/19/2009 12:59:30 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by crayon:
Originally posted by bspurgeon:
Why stop at 720? Why not larger? |
because the site evolve at a rate similar to the movement of the earth's plates |
No way, when did we get an upgrade in speed? I didn't see the post on the front page telling me we were going that much faster then before. :p
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06/19/2009 01:09:20 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by MattO:
Originally posted by crayon:
Originally posted by bspurgeon:
Why stop at 720? Why not larger? |
because the site evolve at a rate similar to the movement of the earth's plates |
No way, when did we get an upgrade in speed? I didn't see the post on the front page telling me we were going that much faster then before. :p
Matt |
It's being added to the front page at the same speed.
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06/19/2009 01:49:26 AM · #8 |
| I've said it before. I'll say it again, relax the file size constraint to say, 250, 500, or 1000 K and let pixel dimensions float. Voters will punish images that are too large with low votes, and quality of images will go up, in general! |
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06/19/2009 03:13:49 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by MattO:
Originally posted by crayon:
Originally posted by bspurgeon:
Why stop at 720? Why not larger? |
because the site evolve at a rate similar to the movement of the earth's plates |
No way, when did we get an upgrade in speed? I didn't see the post on the front page telling me we were going that much faster then before. :p
Matt |
It's being added to the front page at the same speed. |
ROTFLMAO! (you guys kills me) |
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06/19/2009 04:11:49 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by Dr.Confuser:
I've said it before. I'll say it again, relax the file size constraint to say, 250, 500, or 1000 K and let pixel dimensions float. Voters will punish images that are too large with low votes, and quality of images will go up, in general! |
This idea has a lot of merit! |
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06/19/2009 08:11:04 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by hahn23:
Originally posted by Dr.Confuser:
I've said it before. I'll say it again, relax the file size constraint to say, 250, 500, or 1000 K and let pixel dimensions float. Voters will punish images that are too large with low votes, and quality of images will go up, in general! |
This idea has a lot of merit! |
Floating pixel size seems like a bad idea in a contest where we are supposed to judge photos. New members get confused on creating the max file size often eneough, adding this wrinkle seems not to be in the site's best interest. I'd love to see the file size upped without an increase in pixel dimemnsions. Too many of my complicated compositions have to be at ~85% quality to fit in 150k or 200k, which really softens the image and makes me wonder why I bother submitting. |
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06/19/2009 08:25:41 AM · #12 |
I've always been in support of increasing photo & file sizes. The main impediments to doing so are:
- Accommodating those who view and vote on older monitors or laptops. The predominant laptop resolutions are 1024x768 and 1280x800 for wide-screen. Yes, I know higher resolution screens are available. Forcing users to scroll to vote is not a good idea
- File size requirements. Increase the max dimension by 10% and the file size needs to increase by 44% to maintain the same quality.
In the past, L has monitored the screen size of those connecting to the site, and the results were used to set the current 720px for Member Challenges. There was talk about re-visiting the resolution question. I'd submit that it is probably time for the subject to come up again. |
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06/19/2009 09:01:04 AM · #13 |
Maybe it is time for another vote. I believe last time it was favored by a fairly large margin however that is where the buck stopped.
can we access the poll history page? If so Id like to see it. Nevermind, I found it
Not sure if this is the most recent Poll or not but the numbers seem to be about what I remember them being so I think this is the last one taken.
Message edited by author 2009-06-19 09:05:36. |
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06/19/2009 09:15:18 AM · #14 |
1. I don't care for much of anything  hahn23 ever has to say, but I do agree that 640 pixels is pretty silly.
2. Since monitors are longer horizontally than vertically, logic might also set pixel limits that way.
3. Can the voting bar not be set to float above any photos too large for grandpa's screen to handle, always sitting in the same x-y position so he can easily vote 1 on every photo without moving his mouse?
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06/19/2009 09:19:38 AM · #15 |
I think that there are ways around the scrolling to vote. Providing the limit is kept with in the 720 range, one would be to shrink everything at the top of the page down to smaller dimensions on the view and vote pages, The DPC logo could be made smaller and the menu bar could be completely removed from the voting page, Not really a need to access it from that page when it is available on all other pages on the site. at least I have never had the need. Maybe others have but I still believe it could be left off during voting.
Originally posted by kirbic:
I've always been in support of increasing photo & file sizes. The main impediments to doing so are:
- Accommodating those who view and vote on older monitors or laptops. The predominant laptop resolutions are 1024x768 and 1280x800 for wide-screen. Yes, I know higher resolution screens are available. Forcing users to scroll to vote is not a good idea
- File size requirements. Increase the max dimension by 10% and the file size needs to increase by 44% to maintain the same quality.
In the past, L has monitored the screen size of those connecting to the site, and the results were used to set the current 720px for Member Challenges. There was talk about re-visiting the resolution question. I'd submit that it is probably time for the subject to come up again. |
Message edited by author 2009-06-19 09:21:05. |
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06/19/2009 09:30:18 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by Bugzeye:
... the menu bar could be completely removed from the voting page, Not really a need to access it from that page when it is available on all other pages on the site. at least I have never had the need. Maybe others have but I still believe it could be left off during voting. |
Then how would you get back to the DPC home page (or other pages for that matter)? |
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06/19/2009 09:33:04 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by Bugzeye:
... the menu bar could be completely removed from the voting page, Not really a need to access it from that page when it is available on all other pages on the site. at least I have never had the need. Maybe others have but I still believe it could be left off during voting. |
Then how would you get back to the DPC home page (or other pages for that matter)? |
Tabbed browsing is great for this sort of stuff.
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06/19/2009 09:36:42 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
Tabbed browsing is great for this sort of stuff. |
Except that DPC chastises me if I try to vote with two tabs open to the site at once. It's inconsistent, though. Sometimes it will let me do it, other times it will refuse to log a vote until I close the other tab. |
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06/19/2009 09:42:15 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
Tabbed browsing is great for this sort of stuff. |
Except that DPC chastises me if I try to vote with two tabs open to the site at once. It's inconsistent, though. Sometimes it will let me do it, other times it will refuse to log a vote until I close the other tab. |
Yep. |
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06/19/2009 09:45:51 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by Bugzeye:
... the menu bar could be completely removed from the voting page, Not really a need to access it from that page when it is available on all other pages on the site. at least I have never had the need. Maybe others have but I still believe it could be left off during voting. |
Then how would you get back to the DPC home page (or other pages for that matter)? |
A "Back to the site" button would do the trick.
Also, the voting panel could be placed to the left or right of the image. No need to have it below. Want to write a comment? Click the Comment button and get a comment panel. Bind it to a key (eg. 'C') and you won't have to touch the mouse.
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06/19/2009 10:02:30 AM · #21 |
you can click on the logo to get back to the home page. or you could scroll down to the bottom of the page where all the links are and click on one of those.
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by Bugzeye:
... the menu bar could be completely removed from the voting page, Not really a need to access it from that page when it is available on all other pages on the site. at least I have never had the need. Maybe others have but I still believe it could be left off during voting. |
Then how would you get back to the DPC home page (or other pages for that matter)? |
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06/19/2009 10:07:36 AM · #22 |
Originally posted by bugzeye:
... the menu bar could be completely removed from the voting page, Not really a need to access it from that page when it is available on all other pages on the site. at least I have never had the need. Maybe others have but I still believe it could be left off during voting. |
F11 does this already, makes a big difference in viewing and voting from the laptop... Why not a nice information panel on the current screen telling people in bold letters that they can hit F11 if they are having trouble viewing the entire image?
R.
Message edited by author 2009-06-19 10:09:01. |
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06/19/2009 10:15:02 AM · #23 |
I was refering to the DPC menu bar not the browser menu bar.
my home challenges community etc etc.... all those links for the DPC bar are also at the bottom of the page so there is room at the top of the page that could be freed up for larger photos.
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
... the menu bar could be completely removed from the voting page, Not really a need to access it from that page when it is available on all other pages on the site. at least I have never had the need. Maybe others have but I still believe it could be left off during voting. |
F11 does this already, makes a big difference in viewing and voting from the laptop... Why not a nice information panel on the current screen telling people in bold letters that they can hit F11 if they are having trouble viewing the entire image?
R. |
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08/20/2009 12:34:18 PM · #24 |
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Message edited by author 2009-08-21 09:41:04. |
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