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04/23/2008 11:01:00 AM · #1
Ok, so I have a HORRIBLE habit of cropping my photos in too tight when I shoot. Now I am working on a print order and obviously I am losing part of my photos. Does anyone have any advice other than, shoot wider? I think I'm going to put a note on my camera next time I am shooting portraits. I do fine outdoors, or weddings, I just forget or have brain freeze or something when I am doing indoor portraits.

Is there anything I can do with my current photos to not lose so much of the photo? I have added canvas in photoshop before the accomodate but I'm looking for something else I can do. A resizing I'm not aware of or something.
Any help would be very appreciated.
04/23/2008 11:04:34 AM · #2
Shoot wider. ;-)
04/23/2008 11:11:25 AM · #3
What ratio is native for your camera?
04/23/2008 11:15:04 AM · #4
Originally posted by picturesbykim:

Ok, so I have a HORRIBLE habit of cropping my photos in too tight when I shoot. Now I am working on a print order and obviously I am losing part of my photos. Does anyone have any advice other than, shoot wider? I think I'm going to put a note on my camera next time I am shooting portraits. I do fine outdoors, or weddings, I just forget or have brain freeze or something when I am doing indoor portraits.

Is there anything I can do with my current photos to not lose so much of the photo? I have added canvas in photoshop before the accomodate but I'm looking for something else I can do. A resizing I'm not aware of or something.
Any help would be very appreciated.


Since using a dslr, I've been running into the same thing. I do remember at one point the place I was using for prints had a shrink to fit option, but I've tried out so many places and for the life of me I can't remember who it was. If anyone remembers seeing that option, please remind me. But I've also been adding canvas for my mistakes.
04/23/2008 11:28:11 AM · #5
Originally posted by strangeghost:

Shoot wider. ;-)


Seconded!
Since your native aspect ratio is 3:2, you'll have to crop from the short ends for most of your final print aspect ratios. You therefore want to allow room at top & bottom when shooting in portrait orientation. I know some folks have gone as far as to scribe "8x10 framing" lines into their focus screens.
04/23/2008 12:21:27 PM · #6
Abandon widely acceptable print ratios like 8x10 and provide only specialty framing options with your packages that include 10x15 or 8x12 large images.

... just a random thought from someone who loves the 'widescreen' format of the Nikon sensors.
04/23/2008 02:34:30 PM · #7
The D300 has the ability to view on-demand grid lines "for reference when composing photographs." I've never seen it in action though, so I'm not sure exactly how it works. See page 281 of the D300 Manual to see how to use it. Hope that helps. For me, I've just gotten used to leaving the extra room on either end to allow for cropping.

Edit to add: Granted, the grid probably won't say specifically 8x10 crop or whatever, but shouldn't be too hard to figure out through trial and error where the corresponding lines are or how many "blocks" wide an 8x10 would be.

Message edited by author 2008-04-23 14:44:31.
04/23/2008 03:45:17 PM · #8
Originally posted by Arcanist:

Abandon widely acceptable print ratios like 8x10 and provide only specialty framing options with your packages that include 10x15 or 8x12 large images.

10x15 has become my personal favorite size for prints. Not easy to find off the shelf frames and mattes in this size though. Grrr.
04/23/2008 03:56:49 PM · #9
Here is link to crop lines they will scribe, different ratios into the focusing screen.

//www.croplines.com/

Shooting and printing to the new ratios can be a real money maker. Instead of offering your clients and 8x10, you sell them on bigger 8x12 print, you then offer them a framing option, if they don't accept the framing option be sure to tell them that you'll give a discount if they order the frame now, if they still refuse make sure you tell them that you have framing options available and give them a card. 8 out of 10 time they will come back when they can't find a frame,
Just some ideas.
04/28/2008 11:24:00 PM · #10
I love www.croplines.com in my camera. I'm such a tight shooter and it has made a world of difference in my work. I can understand the money that can be made to special order prints and frames.... But that can be time consuming as well. Not to mention batching at different sizes and also showing the different proofs as different file names and sizes. Make sense? lol
04/29/2008 12:32:38 AM · #11
Thank you every one for your feedback, I appreciate it!!! I did another shoot later in the week and made sure to leave PLENTY of room!
05/02/2008 01:16:25 PM · #12
How does that Crop Lines thing work? You install it in the viewfinder or something?
05/02/2008 04:44:30 PM · #13
Originally posted by Arcanist:

Abandon widely acceptable print ratios like 8x10 and provide only specialty framing options with your packages that include 10x15 or 8x12 large images.

... just a random thought from someone who loves the 'widescreen' format of the Nikon sensors.


I second this. It's not just Nikon, it's most SLRs and dSLRs--they shoot full frame pictures. I can't figure out why people still offer 8x10, 11x14, and so on. When I shoot for clients, I push the full frame prints.
05/02/2008 04:46:39 PM · #14
Originally posted by strangeghost:

Originally posted by Arcanist:

Abandon widely acceptable print ratios like 8x10 and provide only specialty framing options with your packages that include 10x15 or 8x12 large images.

10x15 has become my personal favorite size for prints. Not easy to find off the shelf frames and mattes in this size though. Grrr.


And I hate that. Stores and frame-makers need to get on the ball and ditch this cropped size nonsense. If 4x6 is going to be a standard, then 8x12, 10x15, 12x18, and so on need to be a standard to keep with the flow of things. There's no reason to use 8x10 or 11x14.
05/02/2008 04:51:33 PM · #15
Shoot with enough room to crop to whatever ratio you'll need later. Crop lines and such are useless to a pro - a client will inevitable want wallets and and an 8x10. Wallets are 5x7 ratio. Online I offer wallets, 4x6, 5x7 and 8x10 - 3 different crop ratios but they are the standards. You can do 4x5 (8x10) easily enough, but too many sales are 5x7 / wallets to abandon that size.
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