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10/25/2007 09:27:39 PM · #1


Frivolous lawsuit, or matter of principle?
10/25/2007 09:53:31 PM · #2
If everyone who walked through the store or shopped there took 'just one or two' (meaning a handful of whatever size)and ate them and didn't pay for them, then the store owner is losing money. Bottom line. Why should he tolerate that? Same thing when you go into a grocery store and eat that handful of grapes as you walk around and shop and then pay for the weight that is left. Then you can't understand why grapes are so expensive the next time you shop. So think about it. If those jelly beans are worth 6.99/lb. would you want to take a loss? How many jelly beans had to be 'taste tested' to drive the price of what is basically sugar to 6.99 a pound?












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10/25/2007 09:56:57 PM · #3

If those jelly beans are worth 6.99/lb. would you want to take a loss?

yes

Message edited by author 2007-10-25 22:04:42.
10/25/2007 10:00:25 PM · #4
Originally posted by article:

The jelly beans were priced at $6.99 a pound. The deputy estimated that the 10 jellybeans would have had a value of about $2.


Those are some heavy jelly beans. or expensive ones.

if it were a pack of jelly beans, and he had stuck it in his pocket, it would be shoplifting.

but, I guess when you steal little stuff, it is okay? (that question is more directed to the comments on the article.)
10/29/2007 11:11:27 AM · #5
wow,the way this area of the country(im down the road in panama) gets in the news...hang him high for driving jelly-beans up in price!
10/29/2007 12:57:38 PM · #6
Ha, the guy is going to fight it.

Question 1: did you eat them?
Question 2: did you pay for them?

No further questions.

But shame on the store, the guy has been shopping there for 30 years. They got a lot of business from him and would have got a lot of business from him in the future. A warning would have been a much wiser business decision as the loss of his business is worth much more then $2.
10/29/2007 01:05:25 PM · #7
Originally posted by LoudDog:

Ha, the guy is going to fight it.

Question 1: did you eat them?
Question 2: did you pay for them?

No further questions.

But shame on the store, the guy has been shopping there for 30 years. They got a lot of business from him and would have got a lot of business from him in the future. A warning would have been a much wiser business decision as the loss of his business is worth much more then $2.


Yeah, but if the guy is having trouble with this from many customers, someone gets picked at random to be the example.

Wiser would be to just charge him for the extra jelly-beans.

10/29/2007 01:05:31 PM · #8
Theft is theft, regardless of the amount, albeit the store can exercise their options in this scenario.

Let's say I visit a car dealership. Would it be OK for me to help myself to a few hubcaps... they represent only a small item on the vehicle.

I might be more inclined to be tolerant if we were dealing with a child, but considering that this man has been "shopping" at that establishment for 30 years, it makes one wonder what other items he conducted taste tests on.

Sorry, no sympathy from me on this one.

Ray
10/29/2007 01:16:11 PM · #9
A bit of both, IMO.

Yes, it is stealing, and as such, should be punished.

But a lawsuit for 2, or 10, jellybeans seems to be a waste of the courts time, and taxpayers money.

I can definitely see the viewpoint of the store manager and/or owner in wanting to pursue it.

Maybe he'll plea bargain and take community service.
10/29/2007 01:18:03 PM · #10
Originally posted by kashi:

A bit of both, IMO.

Yes, it is stealing, and as such, should be punished.

But a lawsuit for 2, or 10, jellybeans seems to be a waste of the courts time, and taxpayers money.

I can definitely see the viewpoint of the store manager and/or owner in wanting to pursue it.

Maybe he'll plea bargain and take community service.


Shouldn't be a lawsuit, but a criminal misdemeanor charge.
10/29/2007 01:41:49 PM · #11
(Sorry, I didn't read the article, so this is going off everyone's responses)

One persons way of doing business is different from another's. I personally taste test some things, such as fresh green beens... because often they LOOK good, but they are no good... if they are good, i will buy, but if they taste bad, i will be very sad if i pay for some thing gross. But i am very happy with paying for something that is delicious!

But, if the store owner wants to set a reputation of bad customer service, go ahead and sue the guy. He will lose customers from the bad publicity. I think a $3 loss is not worth it. Bad publicity spreads like wild fire!
10/29/2007 07:30:14 PM · #12
Originally posted by staticoy:

I think a $3 loss is not worth it. Bad publicity spreads like wild fire!


Point not being that it is a $3 loss.

Point being that it is a $3 loss, THIS time, for THIS customer.

Even 5 customers a day sneaking $3 worth of goods adds up :
$15 / day
$105 / week
$5460 / year


10/29/2007 08:11:53 PM · #13
Pricing calculations for almost every retail business (in the US, anyway) factors-in inventory "shrinkage" -- though typically more of it is due to employee theft than shoplifting. As has been pointed out, if no one ever stole the goods those jelly beans would be cheaper, like $6.89/pound.

My dad used to point out the applicability of the analogous situation when I wanted to take home an interesting rock from a State Park ...

Smart retailers (especially of fresh produce, as at farmers' markets) have tasting samples placed out there already. And I've seen candy racks (Brach's) which have a little slot where you can put a nickel to pay for samples.
10/29/2007 08:22:56 PM · #14
I think that their might be more to this story than just what we see


The store manager on duty told the deputy that he wanted charges brought against the suspect, who was also issued a trespass warning.

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