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09/07/2007 09:19:22 AM · #1 |
Please help me to understand...while keeping a little dignity...how I can do an impressive job on the Impressionism II Challenge and still score (initially) in the low 4's, especially since I followed the instructions "to the letter?"
(I almost didn't enter the challenge because I told my wife that if I do impressionism well, then I will score poorly on DPC.)
I did my research on Google & Wikipedia. I refreshed my memories of Impressionist painters,  like Monet & Renoir, and Impressionist photographers, [thumb]583465[/thumb] like Steven L. van Dyke and Bob Cleary (both in 2002.) [thumb]583466[/thumb] [thumb]583467[/thumb]
I may not know digital photography as well as I would like, but few advanced amateurs know Fine ART better than I do...
Message edited by author 2007-09-07 09:31:42.
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09/07/2007 09:23:28 AM · #2 |
Impressionism (art), a movement in painting that originated in France in the late 19th century. Impressionist painters were considered radical in their time because they broke many of the rules of picture-making set by earlier generations.
Holds true on this site! I like you almost di not enter and not sure why I did now. |
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09/07/2007 09:25:11 AM · #3 |
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09/07/2007 10:05:06 AM · #4 |
I went out over a course of three separate days taking quite a few shots using different methods. I finally captured 2 or 3 that I felt "captured" the sense of color. play of light, movement and theme in-camera but I decided to sit this one out. I also looked at Freeman Patterson's book Photo Impressionism to get a better understanding of the general tecniques used.
Looking at the entries I feel a good chunk of them fail to capture the sense of impressionism (mind you that is my opinion). Having taken a class on how to teach on the art of the past masters I think my life experiences are coloring my view. But here is my take & analysis of what the Impressionists accomplished and what a photographer has to look for in order to capture that essence.
Impressionism was an attempt to accurately & objectively record visual reality in terms of transient effects of light and color. Impressionists generally used unmixed primary colors and small feathery strokes to represent reflected light. It is the color and the way the light falls on the subject that is a primary characteristic of impressionism. Soft lines and/or sense of movement and overall themes are the complimentary partners in an impressionistic painting (or photographs)
Think about how the way light plays upon a silk dress, the folds in a curtain, the greenery of a tree blowing in the wind, or a golden wheat field. There are variations of color depending on how the light plays off of it - certain times of the day give better light/color variations than others and that is certainly true with outdoor photography (mornings and late afternoons generally have the best light because it is scattered and not harsh).
If memory does not fail me I think it was Renoir who did scads of paintings just of water because he was trying (and studying) to capture how the light played on the water's surface. Soft lines also played a role in the impressionist movement. Generally speaking most impressionist paintings have an appealing theme that uses bright warm colors - Not all, for certainly Monet used blue (a cool color)to great effect in his water themed paintings. |
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09/07/2007 10:05:14 AM · #5 |
Its because everyone on this site has an opinion my good man. And as we all know. Opinions are like buttholes. Everyones got one, and all of em stink....
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09/07/2007 10:51:31 AM · #6 |
You know whats interesting about all these threads, very recently we were discussing about filling the frame, now its impressionism, tomorrow ....
Message edited by author 2007-09-07 10:51:42. |
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09/07/2007 11:02:11 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by zxaar:
You know whats interesting about all these threads, very recently we were discussing about filling the frame, now its impressionism, tomorrow .... |
... an open and closed case. :) |
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09/07/2007 11:17:46 AM · #8 |
| your opening looks like it is closing and your closing looks like it is opening :) |
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09/07/2007 05:03:25 PM · #9 |
Even though I had concerns about doing poorly, I still chose to create IMHO an homage to the classic masters and brilliant artists of true Impressionism.
Thank You, CNovack, for a very educational assessment!
The Impressionist examples that I saw in my research were consistently muted pastels with often (again IMHO) purposefully non-striking compositions created for the purpose of "giving impressions of life as actually lived, not life as often 'staged'."
The compositions are (third time IMHO) always brilliant nonetheless because they are masterfully TRUE to their purpose...as stated.
Finally, though the legalese and descriptive writing on DPC have improved markedly, there is still a consistent need for a high-functioning autistic/Asperger's Syndrome person, like me, to oversee the descriptions of upcoming challenges.
I know that I can screw-up just as easily as anybody else, and end up like the antagonist on the Back to the Future trilogy, "I HATE MANURE!"
However, if there is a "loop hole" to be plugged in the legalese, I can usually find it!
For example, Impressionism II states, "Learn about the techniques of impressionism, and incorporate them into a photograph." Now from what I have learned of NT thought, the term "incorporate" seems to hint at the inclusion of Impressionist characteristics to provide an acceptable background for the "as-always-CLEAR & NEVER-TO-BE-DEPARTED-FROM-CLEAR" subject.
It would be nice to have an Insider's Tip Footnote on each description that gives meaning to these concepts, "The Site Council has voted THIS to be our title, THIS to be our description, and THIS to be the main idea (clear subject, impressionist background) that will be given high scores."
O, by the way, about a month ago I spent two days serving on a Grand Jury. Though the sitting still for two days was a bit harsh, I found the whole experience rather refreshing with humans who spoke clearly expressing complete thoughts.
Message edited by author 2007-09-07 18:50:46.
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09/07/2007 05:22:27 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by 777STAN:
Even though I had concerns about doing poorly, I still chose to create IMHO an homage to the classic masters and brilliant artists of true Impressionism.
I first thought of using in-camera solarization to indicate impressionism, but the research showed differently![thumb]583566[/thumb] |
That's a wonderful image. I give it a 10!!! Oh wait, it's not IN the challenge being voted on right now is it? Shucks.
I've got a great photo I'd like to share also. [thumb]oops! wait for outtakes[/thumb].
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like Monet & Renoir, and Impressionist photographers, [thumb]583465[/thumb] like Steven L. van Dyke and Bob Cleary (both in 2002.) [thumb]583466[/thumb] [thumb]583467[/thumb]
