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05/13/2002 07:47:50 PM · #1 |
...they put a 1 on which photo?
Wich photo's in this week's challenge are simply beyond a 1 and that a voter who puts a 1 on that photo should have their account terminated?
Heheheh........... |
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05/13/2002 08:04:18 PM · #2 |
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05/13/2002 08:06:33 PM · #3 |
| heheh...clay..well..I didn't vote 1 on that so..although I ain't no genius I'm avoiding stupidity for a very brief moment...nanoseconds........ |
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05/14/2002 06:51:44 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by hokie:
...they put a 1 on which photo?
You know the poster is stupid if...
they think that art is agreed upon by all.
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05/14/2002 06:53:26 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by iban:
You know the poster is stupid if...
they think that art is agreed upon by all.
or they try starting stuff on the dpchallenge forums daily.
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05/14/2002 07:56:44 AM · #6 |
Guys...It's a rant section.
Starting "stuff" is sorta what a rant is all about.
But if it bothers you guys, I'll refrain. |
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05/14/2002 08:23:08 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by hokie:
Guys...It's a rant section.
Starting "stuff" is sorta what a rant is all about.
But if it bothers you guys, I'll refrain.
That really wasn't even close to being directed at you. Check the quoteed part.
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05/14/2002 08:48:45 AM · #8 |
you know the photographers are elitist if ..
hehe, just messin' around ;)
* This message has been edited by the author on 5/14/2002 8:49:12 AM.
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05/14/2002 08:49:46 AM · #9 |
I see that now.
My apology was a result of my own guilt at times at being torn between wanting to rant and trying to hear others speaking their peace.
And iban, if you think my desire to hear some reasonable discussion of why a person puts a 1 on a photo is some attempt to make everyone into a clone then you are either just baiting or are truly ignorant.
I am not looking for "agreement by all". But a 1 denotes a total lack of technical, artistic and or aesthetic skill. Actually a 0 denotes that but simply not voting would be asking too much I suppose.
There are photos receiving 1's that at the very least meet one of the criteria.
Now, stupidity is the inability to recognize or distinguish any of those merits listed above. Yes, of course you can, in your own little emotional world give a 1 to anything your heart desires.
But, if your skill, your intelligence, your artistic eye is so keen as to be able to distinguish the dreck of photography where others have been totally fooled, please, vote a 1 and point out to the rest of us the incredible infallibility of your genius. Clear up our illusions. What are you afraid of? That someone might call you on your interpretation and retort with something more than a snappy witicism?
But slapping a 1 on photo and running away to watch is obtuse and brutish at the least. ( if stupid is too broad a term for you).
I'm not speaking to anyone in particular iban. As a matter of fact, I have not run across too many people on this forum willing to discuss their 1's. So I guess even the brave souls that think they are so enlightened don't feel strongly enough about their convictions to talk about them.
I'm not frustrated at the 1's, I'm frustrated that on a learning site people who have such a strong conviction will not participate in open discussion.
Reminds me of the kids I work with at the highschool when you ask them to support their argument they say "whatever".
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05/14/2002 09:05:40 AM · #10 |
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05/14/2002 09:29:49 AM · #11 |
Hokie,
Let's discuss 1 votes back in the other thread... I'm ready to comment on it myself...
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05/14/2002 09:46:11 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by irae:
There's this one.
This photo was one of the photos I had in mind.
It's level of quality is so high on any measure I would love to see the person willing to vote 1 on this. To marvel at their genius.
The kid on the toilet is another one and is probably my favorites.
See, that being said, there will probably be somebody that will vote a 1 on either of these photos just to see if it causes a stir.
I had this discussion among my daughters highschool art class. Why debate art if it's a subjective topic. Isn't it a moot point if, in the end, everyone is right in some way? My response to them will be the same here. It's human nature to see the world with different glasses. Rejoice in variety and all that.
But it's also important to human culture to communicate these differences of opinion in forums that are designed specifically for that. Debate clubs, art groups, political forums and even websites.
Apathy and hidden agendas infect cultures all over the world. Unwillingness to communicate has seperated and slowed the progess of mankind.
So, what I would ask here is. If that kind of thinking and philosophy is appropriate for the high schools and college why not beyond?
Why is it that we accept in everyday life (apathy, flame baiting, random destruction ) what, in a learning environment of any level would be considered a sign of stupidity?
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05/14/2002 09:48:25 AM · #13 |
I made some critical comments on that particular photo.. granted, it is a nice photo but I think it could have been better without a doubt... it's FAR from a 1 but it's not a 10 on my scale.. I voted it at an 8.
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05/14/2002 09:55:41 AM · #14 |
The kid on the john is well composed, focused, etc., but soooooo flat tonally. That's fixable (and perhaps debatable?), but that's not what we vote on. I certainly wouldn't give it a 1, but neither that nor the nude got a 10 from me. Now that nearly-all-black number...
Later... had another look at the reader photo, and I've got to apologize. Actually much better tonally than I remembered it.
* This message has been edited by the author on 5/14/2002 10:26:54 AM.
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05/14/2002 10:02:54 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by clay:
//www.dpchallenge.com/image.asp?IMAGE_ID=1253
I just spent a long weekend in downtown Chicago and happened to go the Ansel Adams @ 100 exhibit and also the Museum of Contempory Art. I have to say that most of clay's stuff should be in the MCA. It is better conceived and executed than a whole lot of the stuff people have paid a lot of money for.
Wait for me spitting in my entry 'my life as a fountain' in a future challenge |
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05/14/2002 10:04:54 AM · #16 |
Okay... and I really tried not to post this, but I slipped and fell down and hit the 'reply' button, then when pulling myself back up to the desk I accidentally typed all this. My most abject apologies.
You know the voter is {ahem} in need of guidance if...
- they say the word "blurry" when something is (apparently intentionally) out of focus
- they make the one-word comment, "perfect"
- their average vote is close to 2 or 8
- they ask for the camera of every photog they admire (it ain't the camera, stupid)
- they make up technical terms
- they write 'would of', 'funney',
- they ask about camera settings (you'll get them after, like everyone else)
- they insist that every element be completely within the frame
- they complain that people who don't visit dpchallenge might not 'get' the image (think about that)
- they think their photo might be worth $10,000
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05/14/2002 10:14:41 AM · #17 |
the answer to this is easy: because we're outnumbered!!!!
;)
Why is it that we accept in everyday life (apathy, flame baiting, random destruction ) what, in a learning environment of any level would be considered a sign of stupidity?
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05/14/2002 10:22:05 AM · #18 |
As I have said, emotion is half my vote.
I say the partial nude and the kid on the john got my @5 for emotion and about a 4 or 5 for the technical. (or a 10 for emotion and a 9 for tech..added..then divided..however you want to get a 10 scale figured out)
I round UP :-)
The pants around the ankles was also very nice and one of my 10's
* This message has been edited by the author on 5/14/2002 10:26:27 AM. |
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05/14/2002 12:50:22 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by hokie:
I see that now.
<SNIP>
I am not looking for "agreement by all". But a 1 denotes a total lack of technical, artistic and or aesthetic skill. Actually a 0 denotes that but simply not voting would be asking too much I suppose.
<SNIP>
Sorry, but a 1 does not denote a total lack of technical, artistic and aesthetic skill, a 1 denotes "Very Bad" according to the rating system. To be very bad is one thing, to another person very bad is something completely different. Look at the statue of David. To one person it is a great work of art which shows the human body in it's purest form (a 10). To another person it's horribly distasteful and ugly (a 1).
Just my 00000010 cents.
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05/14/2002 12:57:51 PM · #20 |
To another person it's horribly distasteful and ugly.
you mean like me, maaaster?! |
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05/14/2002 12:59:33 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by conceptgraphics:
[i]To another person it's horribly distasteful and ugly.
you mean like me, maaaster?![/i]
no, you aren't ugly, you are just fake ;P
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05/14/2002 01:03:28 PM · #22 |
| was the impression that bad? |
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05/14/2002 01:25:35 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by irae:
There's this one.
That girl is so hot!!! We should go out sometime. |
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05/14/2002 01:27:51 PM · #24 |
me first ;)
That girl is so hot!!! We should go out sometime.
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05/14/2002 01:40:04 PM · #25 |
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