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01/07/2007 10:04:36 AM · #1 |
Wow, I've only received 134 votes on my Free Study entry which finishes voting tonight. I think that's got to be the lowest number of votes ever. I see from the Free Study thread that at least one person has 154 votes so far, but even that seems really low.
I think the first couple of days of voting (back when DPC was running really slow) really hurt us on this one. So I'm just urging everyone to get out and vote on Free Study! :-)
P.S.
And could you please vote a little higher?!? ;-)
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01/07/2007 10:06:59 AM · #2 |
Exactly the same from me.
(Especially the vote higher bit, :P)
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01/07/2007 10:20:06 AM · #3 |
Well, the problem is not a lack of voting. There are too many contests running at the same time. It cuts down on the number of votes and comments. There is a limited amount of time each individual has for their hobby.
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01/07/2007 10:21:31 AM · #4 |
| 146 votes on mine, so, yeah, pretty low, but there's so many images to vote on just now. I voted and commented on 100 images in the free study but it took a fine amount of time, and there's also masses of entries in the other challenges, too. |
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01/07/2007 11:01:27 AM · #5 |
Hi all, I've received 143 votes on free study. I think it's the large number of photos in that challenge that is holding people back. However, I can say from experience ... it may be numbing to vote on all, but pure perseverence sometimes wins out. Of course, DH thought I should be doing something other than voting on 400+ photos LOL.
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01/07/2007 11:12:55 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by David Ey:
Well, the problem is not a lack of voting. There are too many contests running at the same time. It cuts down on the number of votes and comments. There is a limited amount of time each individual has for their hobby. |
This will probably settle down after the first month of 2007. I always wonder how a person votes when they elect to only vote for 20 percent. Do they select by the thumbnail? I would assume so since if you're gonna open the photo you could just as well vote. So in large challenges I guess how good your photo looks as a thumbnail is all important.
(yes cheeseman the horse is catching hell again)
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01/07/2007 11:15:09 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by fir3bird:
Originally posted by David Ey:
Well, the problem is not a lack of voting. There are too many contests running at the same time. It cuts down on the number of votes and comments. There is a limited amount of time each individual has for their hobby. |
This will probably settle down after the first month of 2007. I always wonder how a person votes when they elect to only vote for 20 percent. Do they select by the thumbnail? I would assume so since if you're gonna open the photo you could just as well vote. So in large challenges I guess how good your photo looks as a thumbnail is all important.
(yes cheeseman the horse is catching hell again) |
People do vote by thumbnail, I think, but really if you are only going to vote 20%, then you should vote on your first randomly assigned 20%, to avoid skewing. |
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01/07/2007 11:16:23 AM · #8 |
If we ALL spent as much time voting as we spent complaining about voting or beating the proverbial "dead horse" in these threads, we would have 100% in each challenge.
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01/07/2007 11:17:50 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by JamesKW:
If we ALL spent as much time voting as we spent complaining about voting or beating the proverbial "dead horse" in these threads, we would have 100% in each challenge. |
Bravo!
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01/07/2007 11:19:52 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by JamesKW:
If we ALL spent as much time voting as we spent complaining about voting or beating the proverbial "dead horse" in these threads, we would have 100% in each challenge. |
I haven't done either, I took a short break from DPC at all after WPL3 was over for the Llamas.
Between Christmas/new years and many of the most active on the site being less active than usual, this is probably to be expected.
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01/07/2007 11:36:56 AM · #11 |
| I'll be happy when the number of things to vote on gets back to a sane level, and when at least one of the ten challenges on the front page says Basic Editing. Ahhhh. |
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01/07/2007 11:46:43 AM · #12 |
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01/07/2007 12:41:34 PM · #13 |
I've voted. Will go back an comment if time allows.
Some wonderful photos and a lot of high votes this challenge.
I think some might feel over-whelmed with so much to vote on. I find it not only fun but really informative to see how the photog chose to shoot the image. I don't always agree, but I see with new eyes often. |
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01/07/2007 12:44:49 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by fir3bird:
I always wonder how a person votes when they elect to only vote for 20 percent. Do they select by the thumbnail? I would assume so since if you're gonna open the photo you could just as well vote. So in large challenges I guess how good your photo looks as a thumbnail is all important. |
From the Voting Rules:
You May Not:
• vote on an entry based on its server-generated thumbnail.
The random assignment of image slots on each voting page is there for a reason. If a significant number of people cherry-pick thumbs to vote on, the results would become seriously skewed. To wit: if people only voted on entries that catch their eye in the first place, then all votes would be higher votes, more or less. In the extreme case, if only a handful of people were motivated to click my thumbnail, and all gave me a 10, I'd have DPC's first perfect score, but the average would be generated off of only 5-10 votes. This is ridiculous of course, it wouldn't happen, but it's the fallacy of cherry-picking.
R.
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01/07/2007 12:45:50 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by routerguy666:
...and when at least one of the ten challenges on the front page says Basic Editing. Ahhhh. |
I'm with you on this - more basic please :)
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01/07/2007 01:11:59 PM · #16 |
If there are 450 entries in Free Study and only 150 vote on your image, that means that 300 entrants don't even vote. They take the easy way out and just enter an image and let everyone else do the work.
Why not say: From now on, FREE STUDIES are ONLY for people that have given more comments than they have recieved. If you want to enter a free study, get your comments up.
The image that I am entering in BO 2006 is being entered now because the free study back in April was that way and I didn't give more comments than I received. I got my comments up because I didn't want that to happen again.
Edit: And while you're commenting, you might as well vote!
Message edited by author 2007-01-07 13:15:09. |
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01/07/2007 03:53:58 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by bmartuch:
If there are 450 entries in Free Study and only 150 vote on your image, that means that 300 entrants don't even vote. They take the easy way out and just enter an image and let everyone else do the work. |
This is because there are many people who don't think they can be fair when voting on challenges that they enter, not because they're being lazy.
I however, am being lazy.
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01/07/2007 04:16:10 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by bmartuch:
If there are 450 entries in Free Study and only 150 vote on your image, that means that 300 entrants don't even vote. They take the easy way out and just enter an image and let everyone else do the work. |
Or 450 entrants only managed to vote on 150 entries each.
150 votes when you take your time is not the easy way out believe me!
Besides, my score hasn't moved more than 0.1 from where it was 100 votes ago. |
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01/07/2007 04:31:38 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by bod:
Or 450 entrants only managed to vote on 150 entries each.
150 votes when you take your time is not the easy way out believe me!
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Another reason why I believe it would be a good idea to have a rule saying that you HAVE to vote on all pictures in the challenges you participate in...
This would probably result in fewer entries and more votes
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01/07/2007 04:33:58 PM · #20 |
| Okay, I'm outside, been round the neighbourhood...no-one wants to vote! They think I am a nutter, two have threatened to call the Police and three have invited me in! |
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01/07/2007 04:36:50 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by silverscreen:
Originally posted by bod:
Or 450 entrants only managed to vote on 150 entries each.
150 votes when you take your time is not the easy way out believe me!
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Another reason why I believe it would be a good idea to have a rule saying that you HAVE to vote on all pictures in the challenges you participate in...
This would probably result in fewer entries and more votes |
Not everyone has the time to vote EVERY image in a challenge, especially when there are 450 or more of them. Myself for example, the weekends are the only time I'm able to vote right now. I got through 55% of the Free Study today, but I'm at the point now where I'm more concerned about being able to go back and comment on some of my votes than try to cram the other 200+ images in. FORCING us to vote would make a lot of people stop entering, which defeats the entire purpose of the site!
The 20% rule is fine the way it is, IMO.
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01/07/2007 04:48:06 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by silverscreen:
Originally posted by routerguy666:
...and when at least one of the ten challenges on the front page says Basic Editing. Ahhhh. |
I'm with you on this - more basic please :) |
I also agree. Pretty soon there will be 20 contests and they will all be expert editing.
Okay...not likley, but I remember when an extra contest was a real treat...now it blah, who cares. |
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01/07/2007 04:49:43 PM · #23 |
| Ignore this thread - stop voting. Since reading this thread I've got 6,5,3,1...I don't like this trend! |
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01/07/2007 04:49:46 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by silverscreen:
Originally posted by bod:
Or 450 entrants only managed to vote on 150 entries each.
150 votes when you take your time is not the easy way out believe me!
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Another reason why I believe it would be a good idea to have a rule saying that you HAVE to vote on all pictures in the challenges you participate in...
This would probably result in fewer entries and more votes |
Re-read the part of my post you chose not to quote. |
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01/07/2007 04:55:47 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by silverscreen:
Originally posted by bod:
Or 450 entrants only managed to vote on 150 entries each.
150 votes when you take your time is not the easy way out believe me!
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Another reason why I believe it would be a good idea to have a rule saying that you HAVE to vote on all pictures in the challenges you participate in...
This would probably result in fewer entries and more votes |
I have an instinctual reaction against having to do anything. Sure you can say i can choose to enter these challenges or not, and that is true. But i for one don't believe in voting when you have entered yourself. So in short i wouldn't enter anymore because i simply don't agree to vote when i have entered myself. |
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