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07/03/2006 07:07:52 AM · #1
Does anyone else do that thing where you wake up in the middle of the night and start imagining things in the room? - You know, spiders on the pillow, hands coming out of the wall, holes in the ceiling, that kind of stuff.

Last night Zach was having trouble sleeping, so we put him in the bed with us for a while to settle him before putting him back into his cot. But it was obviously playing on my mind that he was in the bed and I might roll over onto him or something.

Some time later I woke up, and was convinced he was still in the bed and had somehow worked his way under the cover of the duvet.

I proceeded to try and rip the cover open to 'rescue' him, but couldn't do it with my fingers. So I ripped it open with my teeth.

This morning there's a sizeable rip across the middle of the duvet.

Am I going insane?
07/03/2006 07:23:49 AM · #2
Too much DPC time...

:P

Seriosuly, I don't know, I had to pop a joke about it though. Sorry :)
07/03/2006 07:29:22 AM · #3
Originally posted by focuspoint:

Too much DPC time...

You might be onto something there. You should have seen my antics after 9 or 10 hours playing counterstrike (which is the reason I gave up!)
07/03/2006 07:42:00 AM · #4
Originally posted by jhonan:

Originally posted by focuspoint:

Too much DPC time...

You might be onto something there. You should have seen my antics after 9 or 10 hours playing counterstrike (which is the reason I gave up!)


Being a huge ex-counterstrike player myself, please share some of those antics? I'm dying to find out!!

07/03/2006 08:22:53 AM · #5
Originally posted by Guyver:

Originally posted by jhonan:

Originally posted by focuspoint:

Too much DPC time...

You might be onto something there. You should have seen my antics after 9 or 10 hours playing counterstrike (which is the reason I gave up!)


Being a huge ex-counterstrike player myself, please share some of those antics? I'm dying to find out!!

Well, it was mostly the stuff I mentioned in my original post (hands coming out of the walls etc.) But the other problems I had were seeing shapes moving across the room and hiding behind doors etc. I used to get really nervous and jittery because I imagined people were hiding in the bedroom waiting to ambush me.

The best (worst?) one was when I woke up and imagined I saw torches shining on the wardrobe doors. I thought they were windows and someone was trying to break in (yes... through the wardrobe...) So I jumped out of bed and started banging on the wardrobe to stop them. That was after a 12-hour CS session.
07/03/2006 08:29:17 AM · #6
Originally posted by jhonan:



Well, it was mostly the stuff I mentioned in my original post (hands coming out of the walls etc.) But the other problems I had were seeing shapes moving across the room and hiding behind doors etc. I used to get really nervous and jittery because I imagined people were hiding in the bedroom waiting to ambush me.

The best (worst?) one was when I woke up and imagined I saw torches shining on the wardrobe doors. I thought they were windows and someone was trying to break in (yes... through the wardrobe...) So I jumped out of bed and started banging on the wardrobe to stop them. That was after a 12-hour CS session.


I can assure you ... while these actions may be normal for a 10-year-old kid, they are definately very abnormal for an adult. You don't list your age in your profile, but I'm assuming you're an adult...or at least are the age of an adult.

You're suffering from serious delirium and hallucinations. Have you done a lot of drugs in your life? That could explain it.

Anyway, I'm not a doctor, but I'd seek medical help if I were you...not just help on an internet from un-qualified people. This sounds serious.
07/03/2006 08:30:10 AM · #7
yes!
07/03/2006 08:31:35 AM · #8
This happened to me a long, long, long time ago... We had a cat who had kittens. She kept getting mad at us for touching them, so she went into the bedroom, clawed a hole into the boxspring of the bed and drug her kittens up into the hole. Sort of funny, but not! Anyway...cut to a couple months later, the kittens are gone. Mama's been fixed and is quite nice at this point. I wake up from a dream in the middle of the night convinced there's a kitten stuck in the bed. I get down on my hands and knees and light my zippo lighter "looking" for the kitten and SET THE BED ON FIRE! My husband is sound asleep in the bed, btw. I wake him up and we try dowsing it with water, no luck. We lived on a second floor apartment and the bedroom was on the third. We had to drag a flaming boxspring down three flights of steps outside and drench with a hose. I gave up smoking pot after that!
07/03/2006 08:41:21 AM · #9
Originally posted by deapee:

Originally posted by jhonan:



Well, it was mostly the stuff I mentioned in my original post (hands coming out of the walls etc.) But the other problems I had were seeing shapes moving across the room and hiding behind doors etc. I used to get really nervous and jittery because I imagined people were hiding in the bedroom waiting to ambush me.

The best (worst?) one was when I woke up and imagined I saw torches shining on the wardrobe doors. I thought they were windows and someone was trying to break in (yes... through the wardrobe...) So I jumped out of bed and started banging on the wardrobe to stop them. That was after a 12-hour CS session.


I can assure you ... while these actions may be normal for a 10-year-old kid, they are definately very abnormal for an adult. You don't list your age in your profile, but I'm assuming you're an adult...or at least are the age of an adult.

You're suffering from serious delirium and hallucinations. Have you done a lot of drugs in your life? That could explain it.

Anyway, I'm not a doctor, but I'd seek medical help if I were you...not just help on an internet from un-qualified people. This sounds serious.


I'm not a doctor either but he did punt "imagined I saw"

He never said saw?

I know that overdose on ssomething like video games expecially can cause these kind of dreams etc.

Hell, after I did a wedding shoot, I had taken so many shots that when someone spoke to me that evening I had to tilt my head and move around to "compose them" in a virtual viewfinder that wasnt there!

So too much of anything is bad.

Imagining something and actually seeing something is quite different.

If you see something that isnt there, especially in normal day-to-day activities... yes, that can be delusional.

But if it always happens after a deep sleep, I would say its just an overactive imagination.

Message edited by author 2006-07-03 08:43:27.
07/03/2006 08:44:38 AM · #10
LOL Yes I do... It's really scary!!!!
07/03/2006 08:45:58 AM · #11
Hey, at least I didn't set the bed on fire... :D
07/03/2006 08:55:22 AM · #12
Just thought I'd clarify something. What happens is that I wake up, but not fully. My brain is still dreaming.

Then I spot something in the room, and my brain mixes it up and turns it into something else. For example, a flower pattern on a pillow might turn into a spider. A lampshade on the ceiling turns into a hole. A dreamcatcher on the wall turns into a hand. And the 'torches' on the wardrobe was actually light shining under the curtain from the other side of the room.

It takes a few seconds for me to become fully awake, and then the thing I just imagined disappears.

And this doesn't happen all the time, only every few months. I'm not worried enough about it to go to a doctor or anything, I've learned to force myself to 'wake up' when I'm conscious of it happening. If I start jumping out of windows then I might reconsider.
07/03/2006 09:09:54 AM · #13
LOL there is a saying ... If you think you're crazy you can't be. Crazy people don't know they're nuts. Seriously though, sounds to me like you have a very overactive imagination and are probably hyperactive in which case overstimulating your mind in your daily activities is probably the cause. That and a healthy dose of adult Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder
07/03/2006 09:31:33 AM · #14
Originally posted by jhonan:

Just thought I'd clarify something. What happens is that I wake up, but not fully. My brain is still dreaming.


Sounds a bit like Sleep Paralysis. I have had this happen to me once before, where i was dreaming that i was breaking into my own apartment, then i was waking up and i was convinced that i was still being broken into (by myself), i fell asleep and woke up several times in sucession and my dream self was getting very close to my bed. I was convinced that i was actually standing in the room with myself. The parts that i was awake for, i was very frightened but i could not move. Trippy. I have heard that alot of people who claim they have been abducted by aliens actually suffer from sleep paralysis.

Now, my Counter strike story. Ok well Half Life, but same thing. I had been playing Half Life heavily for a few days right after school ended, and before summer job started. I walked into work on the road crew for the first day. As I was walking into the garage one of the CB's in the truck beside me 'squelched' just before someone talked on it. I instantly dropped to the ground and rolled under a truck thinking that combine soldiers were coming. Luckily no one saw me.

Message edited by author 2006-07-03 09:32:21.
07/03/2006 09:45:59 AM · #15
Do you suffer from sleep apnea? Most of the studies talk about the more common symptoms like snoring, morning headaches, restless sleep, etc. But, any changes in breathing patterns during sleep is cutting oxygen from your brain, and upon waking from a deep sleep it's easy to see why somebody might be "out of it" and not see things the way they really are.

If you have good health insurance, a doctor may refer you to an overnight sleep clinic to study you and your body while you sleep. They videotape you, monitor your vitals and brainwaves, etc while you sleep to get a better understanding on what you're doing while you sleep and how to help your situation. Even if you don't think you have sleep apnea, this is definitely something to discuss with your doctor. Best of luck.
07/03/2006 09:52:22 AM · #16
i get this over time when i don't get enough seep and a little stress. If that's the case just get enough sleep as you can, just don't sleep less than seven hours consecutively or you'll end up taking antidepressant like i do.
07/03/2006 10:07:12 AM · #17
Originally posted by cdownie:

Originally posted by jhonan:

Just thought I'd clarify something. What happens is that I wake up, but not fully. My brain is still dreaming.


Sounds a bit like Sleep Paralysis.


It's more like Hypnagogia
07/03/2006 10:10:23 AM · #18
Further research (since I have the same thing happen to me) gleans:

From //bjp.rcpsych.org/cgi/content/abstract/169/4/459
Hypnagogic and hypnopompic hallucinations are common in narcolepsy. However, the prevalence of these phenomena in the general population is uncertain. METHOD: A representative community sample of 4972 people in the UK, aged 15-100, was interviewed by telephone (79.6% of those contacted). Interviews were performed by lay interviewers using a computerised system that guided the interviewer through the interview process. RESULTS: Thirty-seven per cent of the sample reported experiencing hypnagogic hallucinations and 12.5% reported hypnopompic hallucinations. Both types of hallucinations were significantly more common among subjects with symptoms of insomnia, excessive daytime sleepiness or mental disorders. According to this study, the prevalence of narcolepsy in the UK is 0.04%. CONCLUSIONS: Hypnagogic and hypnopompic hallucinations were much more common than expected, with a prevalence that far exceeds that which can be explained by the association with narcolepsy. Hypnopompic hallucinations may be a better indicator of narcolepsy than hypnagogic hallucinations in subjects reporting excessive daytime sleepiness.
07/03/2006 10:48:22 AM · #19
It could definitely be a side effect of medicines you are taking. Antimalarials, for example, are famous for this. But other things can do it.
07/03/2006 05:00:35 PM · #20
ever done LSC/Acid in the past? maybe it was a flashback?

07/03/2006 05:13:44 PM · #21
I get this kind of thing occasionally, especially if I've had several days of too little sleep (not just a one-night-overtired kinda thing).

One that's not quite the same but probably in the same class still spooks me to remember. I dreamed I was being wrapped alive in some sort of wet gauze, maybe like they use for casts? I was lying in my bed, unable to move, while they worked from my legs up.
I woke and was relieved to find it was just the sheet twisted partway around my legs, and was lying there rethinking the dream and trying to relax again when I realised that the "sheet" was damp against my legs.... it wasn't a dream, I really WAS being mummified!
Then I woke for real... but I had to actually stand up and make sure I really was awake this time and not just in another stage of dream.
07/03/2006 05:15:18 PM · #22
i saw this on tv once..i know alot of people who have sleep paralysis experience this too. you should really seek a doctor, before someone gets hurt.

Originally posted by jhonan:

Just thought I'd clarify something. What happens is that I wake up, but not fully. My brain is still dreaming.

Then I spot something in the room, and my brain mixes it up and turns it into something else. For example, a flower pattern on a pillow might turn into a spider. A lampshade on the ceiling turns into a hole. A dreamcatcher on the wall turns into a hand. And the 'torches' on the wardrobe was actually light shining under the curtain from the other side of the room.

It takes a few seconds for me to become fully awake, and then the thing I just imagined disappears.

And this doesn't happen all the time, only every few months. I'm not worried enough about it to go to a doctor or anything, I've learned to force myself to 'wake up' when I'm conscious of it happening. If I start jumping out of windows then I might reconsider.

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