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05/15/2006 04:56:57 PM · #1 |
Good morning all,
I would like to remind those, who are like myself and doing critiques, that you do need to email people once you have critiqued their image. I recently found a number of my images had been critiqued, but I had not gone back to them and noticed.
This alerts people to the critque and gets them to look at it quickly rather than weeks later.
I have a standard PM I send which bascially says the following:
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Critique Club
Hi
I am Kari from the critique club. I have completed a critique on your image "blah blah".
Cheers
Kari
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Just a thought....
Kari
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05/15/2006 09:22:26 PM · #2 |
I found the same ... i t seems such a pity that somebody does the Critique and the user doesn't know and therefore doesn't respond.
I believe many new Critiquers think that the notification is automatic
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05/16/2006 12:53:00 AM · #3 |
Why is it such a hard thing for a person to check back to see if they have received what they asked for?
David
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05/16/2006 12:56:32 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by David.C:
Why is it such a hard thing for a person to check back to see if they have received what they asked for?
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I know. I just got started in the critique club and most haven't noticed I don't think. I have been PMing each person after I leave them.
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05/16/2006 01:31:11 AM · #5 |
Here is my little form letter...
"Hi there. Per your request, you have received an in depth critique from the Critique Club on your XX challenge entry titled XX. I hope you find this helpful. ~Heather~"
Here is the reasoning behind my letter.
'per your request, you have received an in depth critique'- Some people may be confused as to why they are receiving this critique. I have seen where people thought that they had to check the box in order to receive comments during voting. By adding this little line, they know that they ASKED for the critique, and I gave it to them.
'From the Critique Club'- so they don't think I'm just some random person who decided to leave an after the challenge comment.
'on your xx challenge entry titled xx'- In case they have more than one entry with the same title, they will know what challenge the crit was on. I will also make the title a clickable link directly to the image I have critiqued. This makes it easy for the photographer to access the crit and makes it more likely that they wont forget to go look at it later.
'I hope you find this helpful'- a subtle reminder that checking that helpful box is appreciated. Maybe they wouldn't think to check the box, but after just reading this line, they are reminded that the box is there to check.
Anyway, those are all really just assumptions, however, if it works on just one person, then I was successful.
I have gotten more than a few compliments on the fact that I include a link to the photo.
Also, in the past, I had noticed that one person was including the critique in the email. I'd think that this would deter people from going to the image to read the critique, and much lessen the chance of getting a helpful mark. So I wouldn't recommend that.
But yea, emails are good.
~Heather~
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05/16/2006 01:48:02 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by David.C:
Why is it such a hard thing for a person to check back to see if they have received what they asked for? |
I dont see it as the photographer's fault for not noticing newly added comments on their not-so-recent photos. I think something could have been done about the whole comment-notification system. |
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05/16/2006 02:09:05 AM · #7 |
| on a more general note, is there any way to have a notice sent to your email when you get a new comment? I only have 2 photos right now, but I could imagine if you had a whole portfolio, etc. - you couldn't check every photo every day to see if someone made a comment. Would it be an "easy" possibility to add this feature to the site if it's not available? |
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05/16/2006 02:40:36 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by amandalore:
but I could imagine if you had a whole portfolio, etc. - you couldn't check every photo every day to see if someone made a comment. |
It's easy, click the link next to comments received at the top left of your profile. The comments are in chronological order, newest first.
EDIT: For example... yours is 59.
Message edited by author 2006-05-16 02:42:00. |
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05/16/2006 04:22:47 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by crayon:
Originally posted by David.C:
Why is it such a hard thing for a person to check back to see if they have received what they asked for? |
I dont see it as the photographer's fault for not noticing newly added comments on their not-so-recent photos. I think something could have been done about the whole comment-notification system. |
I couldn't agree more -- I have asked for more emphasis to be placed on the interchange of comments for a couple of years (link).
But this discussion isn't about comments -- it's about Critique Club Critiques which are an entirely different animal. The person requesting the critique need only check back once at the end of the week following voting to see if they have received one. Not too much to ask of them, I think.
MK, I understand what you are saying -- there is a learning curve that has to be overcome in any activity. But in this instance I feel a link on the submission page (in the form of a '?' or "what's this?" button) that opens a fly-out window with a more information. This would be a perfect place to describe in detail what the Critique Club is, and what clicking the checkbox does. It would also be a good place to notify the photographer they need to add their own comments and fill in the information before the critique request will be honored. As it stands, there isn't any explaination at all what that checkbox is actually for.
As I see it, this is a classic example of introverting on a problem instead of handling the cause of the problem. I'm very interested in building the participation of the users of this site, even if all I can encourage is their participation in receiving what they are asked for. Spoon feeding does not encourage participation, but it does encourage leeching.
David
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05/16/2006 04:34:52 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by David.C:
I couldn't agree more -- I have asked for more emphasis to be placed on the interchange of comments for a couple of years (link).
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Thanks. Yes, I was merely commenting on the comments system, not directly towards the CC. But frankly, the CC would benefit from whatever improvements made to the comments system, dont you think? Imagine each time a member logins to his DPC account and fire up the homepage, he is greeted by a large orange ribbon (example) on the upper left corner of the screen - clearly notifying the member that someone has just left a new comment (or updated a previous comment) on one of his photo. Wouldn't that be sweet?
Back to the CC issue. If the above can be implemented, the CC no longer has to PM or email that person that a new comment is there - the "orange ribbon" is already doing that. of course, just an example. It could be a blinking flag or anything. |
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05/16/2006 01:05:03 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:
Originally posted by amandalore:
but I could imagine if you had a whole portfolio, etc. - you couldn't check every photo every day to see if someone made a comment. |
It's easy, click the link next to comments received at the top left of your profile. The comments are in chronological order, newest first.
EDIT: For example... yours is 59. |
Thanx, that would help a bunch... |
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05/16/2006 02:43:28 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:
Originally posted by amandalore:
but I could imagine if you had a whole portfolio, etc. - you couldn't check every photo every day to see if someone made a comment. |
It's easy, click the link next to comments received at the top left of your profile. The comments are in chronological order, newest first.
EDIT: For example... yours is 59. |
The problem with this method is that when a challenge ends your queue gets flooded with comments from that challenge, potentially hiding unread comments.
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05/17/2006 03:07:53 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
The problem with this method is that when a challenge ends your queue gets flooded with comments from that challenge, potentially hiding unread comments. |
To work around this, just check your comments right before the rollover. That reduces the probability of new comments getting in front of the existing ones.
ps. I've rarely had a problem with huge amount of comments on my challenge entries. Those numbers aren't huge, for me at least;) |
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