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11/09/2004 08:56:53 PM · #1
Hey All Adam Here,

I just experienced a miracle in the printing world. At the Associated Press San Francisco we all had are Epson printers replaced overnight with Canon i9900. Turns out Canon cut a major deal with the AP on cameras and printers in return for an endorsement from the AP. No wonder the photo pool was just given D1s Mark II cameras along with a memo stating that it should become our prime camera.

On to the miracle. The Epson printers have been dreams. Except for a few print head problems, the 2200 was our main proofing workhorse. Now, without any input from photography, I have to use the Canon i9900. I was a little pissed off, to say the least. Your telling me in the middle of a proof I have to switch printers? I get this idea that I would print out a job that I had proofed on the Epson, march up to management, and through a fit. The photo came off my D1x. I wanted to make a point so I loaded up a sheet of 17"x11" Hammermill photo white 60lb, and pressed print.

Oh, I did not even up res the file, just sized it to 17 x 11 and the photo came out to be 175ppi. Usually, when we go to tabloid or bigger, we have to do the fractal up res, and I was to be assured of a crappie print at 175dpi. News Papers print at 150 dpi screen and we send the press images over 300 ppi through fractal enlargement.

First though about the print. OMG this printer is too fast! Max quality, photo paper setting, and I have a print in two and a half minutes. The Epson would take 10 minutes. Next thought, as I turn to check the colors on my monitor, the color profile is perfect. The Epson had always printed way to dark. Third, and I am not kidding around here, the print looked great from less than one foot. A 175 ppi file at 17x11 looks good? Yep! Well on the way home I bought a i9900, and started printing 13x19 prints on Canon paper all with out interpolation. I tried all my cameras and even some stuff off the drum scanner at work. It all came out better than I could ever think.

After using Epson printers for a decade, I am now moving to a 100% canon print flow, and color sync even comes from the factory with proper profiles its even turned on by default. If your in the market for a printer, save some cash and buy the i9900. You will not be disappointed at least on the mac side.

This is my true an honest opinion. If anyone has used the i9900, or any other printer that has just blown them away, please comment.

Adam
11/09/2004 09:56:21 PM · #2
I have heard lots of great things about that printer. Now if Canon could tackle that print longevity problem, printing Nirvana would be ours!
11/09/2004 09:56:50 PM · #3
how fast you go through cartriges on that thing and how much do they cost?
11/09/2004 10:05:52 PM · #4
well i have done 12 13x19 prints at max settings and the cartridges read above 85% across the board. They are all $9.99 each at my compusa. 8 cartridges.
11/09/2004 10:06:30 PM · #5
Originally posted by hsteg:

how fast you go through cartriges on that thing and how much do they cost?


i9900 cartridges are $12 USD as singles, and I think $85 as a whole set.

As far as longeivty, 25 years is plenty long for me. If my image fades after 25 years, I'll show them prints from a lab that faded after 5 years. And if they want their money back, I'll spend the 1.50 and reprint it lol.

This printer is AWESOME.
Fast, Efficient, and just flat out awesome.

Message edited by author 2004-11-09 22:08:24.
11/09/2004 10:16:53 PM · #6
I have the i9900's older brother, the i9100, and little cousins i950 (who's a bit slow in comparison so he's semi-retired) and (3) i960's, and I love them all. I have had some issues with the smaller printers in terms of print heads clogging, but everytime I have had any problem and called customer service, they help me fix it or they fix it pronto. Of course, I take these printers on the road with me and they handle a much larger workload than the average owner would ask of them.

Paper's pretty reasonable and you can sometimes get a full set of cartridges on ebay for roughly $50. I don't reccommend generic ink - I tried several different brands and had color and fading issues.
11/09/2004 10:44:01 PM · #7
Originally posted by jmlelii:

Originally posted by hsteg:

how fast you go through cartriges on that thing and how much do they cost?


i9900 cartridges are $12 USD as singles, and I think $85 as a whole set.

As far as longeivty, 25 years is plenty long for me. If my image fades after 25 years, I'll show them prints from a lab that faded after 5 years. And if they want their money back, I'll spend the 1.50 and reprint it lol.

This printer is AWESOME.
Fast, Efficient, and just flat out awesome.


Who's "them"? Just curious...

11/09/2004 10:44:49 PM · #8
Im not really in the industry but i have the canon i950 for about 2 years now and it has never failed to produce perfect prints for me even on A4... canon do make great printers no doubt, my friend has an Epsom and the ink is expensive its slow and big and noisey..

now if they could only make a decent $999 camera they'de be laughing..

*braces himself ready for the verbal onslaught*
11/09/2004 10:49:45 PM · #9
Originally posted by digistoune:

Originally posted by jmlelii:

Originally posted by hsteg:

how fast you go through cartriges on that thing and how much do they cost?


i9900 cartridges are $12 USD as singles, and I think $85 as a whole set.

As far as longeivty, 25 years is plenty long for me. If my image fades after 25 years, I'll show them prints from a lab that faded after 5 years. And if they want their money back, I'll spend the 1.50 and reprint it lol.

This printer is AWESOME.
Fast, Efficient, and just flat out awesome.


Who's "them"? Just curious...


"them" are people who purchase my prints at Art shows. I always carry around a few photos from a few years ago printed from Film, and show them what it looks like as a comparison.
11/09/2004 11:36:53 PM · #10
Thanks for the review, Adam. I'm still running an ancient Epson 880 printer and I've been thinking of upgrading. Now I have a candidate to focus on.
11/10/2004 01:18:31 AM · #11
Thought I would add my two cents. I use the little brother to the i9900, the i960. It is great and have had no problems and get terrific quality 8x10's, even with a 2MP camera. Wish I would have sprung for the i9900. Maybe next time.
11/10/2004 05:58:54 AM · #12
I'm considereing it! Thanks for the tips.

What's the real difference between i9900 and i9950?

Terje
11/10/2004 07:47:26 AM · #13
Originally posted by terje:


What's the real difference between i9900 and i9950?


For prints up to 13x19, the i9900 is the newest and has 8 ink tanks (Red, Green, Yellow, Cyan, Photo Cyan, Magenta, Photo Magenta, Black) while the i9000 is a few months older and has 6 ink tanks (no red or green). For prints up to 8.5 x 11, the i960 is newer than the i950 and a bit faster as well. Both smaller printers (960 and 950) have six ink tanks.
11/10/2004 08:01:26 AM · #14
Question was for i9900 and i9950, two different models.
11/10/2004 08:22:30 AM · #15
ah..

i9900 is without CD print option, and costs a little less. Only sold in the US. while the i9950 has CD print option and is sold in Europe. ;-)
11/10/2004 10:08:13 AM · #16
Can anybody point me to the best deal they've found on an i9900? I've got the i960, and love it. But if the price is right on the i9900, I wouldn't mind being able to print bigger... :-) Thanks for any pointers!

Doug
11/10/2004 10:15:51 AM · #17
Cheapest on pricegrabber is $415 at newegg.com.
11/10/2004 10:22:20 AM · #18
Originally posted by terje:

Question was for i9900 and i9950, two different models.


Laugh! I checked canonusa.com before answering your question and they didn't have a i9950 listed, so I figured it was a misprint. Sorry. :)
11/10/2004 10:52:45 AM · #19
While surfing about, I found the Niagara III Continuous Ink System offered at Mediastreet.com for the i9900. Wonder if they're gonna start offering some of their plug-n-play inks any time soon? Anyway, just thought I'd pass the info along :-)
11/10/2004 11:17:39 AM · #20
can you put a roll of paper in there to print a panoramic?
11/10/2004 09:08:25 PM · #21


The i9900 = USA and JP
The i9950 = The rest of the world.
Same printer except that the i9950 has permanent print heads that are not replaceable due to the shortage of canon retailers world wide to provide the heads (canon supposedly overbuilt the heads on the '50). The i9900 has user installed and replaced heads, and the heads can be found at most computer/office stores.

Question was for i9900 and i9950, two different models.
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Message edited by author 2004-11-10 21:09:37.
11/10/2004 09:17:43 PM · #22
Originally posted by hsteg:

can you put a roll of paper in there to print a panoramic?


Although it is not supported by cannon, in fact you can use long roll paper. A couple of tips; unroll the paper first and let it sit for an hour to unroll, cut it to the length of the print + 2", set up a custom paper size, and make sure that you have at least 20% left on your inks. I have been known to print 8.5" x 120" prints on a i560. I will run a test on the i9900 and get back to you.

PS: life with the i9900 is so much more productive. I have run over 30 different papers today, and they all came out within 5% without custom settings or profiles up to 60lbs. I have run over 100 square feet and the ink tanks are still virtually full. I will write a full review in the next few days.
adam

Message edited by author 2004-11-11 00:38:37.
11/10/2004 09:29:15 PM · #23
Damn Adam, you're making one heck of a case for this machine!
11/10/2004 09:49:57 PM · #24
I had a 1280 Epson for a number of years and struggled with it to get good colors. Undoubtedly somewhere in that machine there is a magic word that, when said, would give me great pictures, but I was never able to find that magic word.

The Canon i9900 that replaced it about two months ago prints what I want it to, in the colors I want, faster, and so far is trouble free.
11/10/2004 10:14:12 PM · #25
Originally posted by sfalice:

I had a 1280 Epson for a number of years and struggled with it to get good colors. Undoubtedly somewhere in that machine there is a magic word that, when said, would give me great pictures, but I was never able to find that magic word.

The Canon i9900 that replaced it about two months ago prints what I want it to, in the colors I want, faster, and so far is trouble free.


I had the same problem many years back with a epson 1200 photo. Ended up having to make custom icc profiles for the damn thing. The Canon is so much better. Running CMYK vs. RGB print tests as we speak.

Adam
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