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12/27/2014 09:59:07 PM · #1
Hello... I need quick help from the community... I just sold my Canon T2i, with the thought of getting the 70d. I am apprehensive about that camera because I'm not sure I'll get better photos... with it only has 19 focus points. Am I making an error in judgment based on that thinking, or is it in fact a good camera? Is it an decent upgrade from the T2i?

Assuming I do buy it, (the 70d) I am wondering what to do about a lens? After selling my T2i the lenses I still own are the Canon 15-85, the 50mm 1.8, and a 70-300 EF IS. I was wondering which lens should I get with it... or would you get any at all.. but just use what I have? I am not terribly concerned with video. If YOU already had a 70-300 would it make sense to get the 55-250? If YOU already had a 15-85 would you get a 18-135? What to do... What to do? I need to know soon if I'm going to beat a year end price deal. Thanks

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12/27/2014 10:27:10 PM · #2
For the moment you're fine for lenses. Get to know the camera first.

In nearly every respect the 70D is a significant upgrade to the T2i. Image quality, maybe no significant change except better high-ISO/low light performance, but otherwise it has a host of improvements. Don't worry about the 19 focus points; all of them are "cross-type", which are the most efficient type; your Rebel only has one of those, the center one. Autofocus accuracy will be much improved. Build quality is better. You'll have a tilt-out, rotatable LCD screen which will allow you to easily take pictures over your head, down low, or around corners :-)

7 frames per second vs 3.7: much better for action shots. Much, much better viewfinder, brighter and crisper. It's weather-sealed, so you can shoot in the damp. Better battery life. More dynamic range on the sensor. It's a REALLY nice camera, I quite like it. We have one around here right now (we traded bodies with someone) and though we're not using it much, I'm very impressed with it.
12/27/2014 10:51:39 PM · #3
I think the lenses you have are all just fine and they will all work with the 70D. The most important piece of equipment is the 10 inches behind the viewfinder.

I have a 50D and a T2i. The T2i actually has slightly better IQ than the 50D. I don't feel either one holds me back any, though nicer gear does remove some limitations.

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12/28/2014 04:51:00 PM · #4
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

For the moment you're fine for lenses. Get to know the camera first.

In nearly every respect the 70D is a significant upgrade to the T2i. Image quality, maybe no significant change except better high-ISO/low light performance, but otherwise it has a host of improvements. Don't worry about the 19 focus points; all of them are "cross-type", which are the most efficient type; your Rebel only has one of those, the center one. Autofocus accuracy will be much improved. Build quality is better. You'll have a tilt-out, rotatable LCD screen which will allow you to easily take pictures over your head, down low, or around corners :-)

7 frames per second vs 3.7: much better for action shots. Much, much better viewfinder, brighter and crisper. It's weather-sealed, so you can shoot in the damp. Better battery life. More dynamic range on the sensor. It's a REALLY nice camera, I quite like it. We have one around here right now (we traded bodies with someone) and though we're not using it much, I'm very impressed with it.


Bear_Music, ... do you think I would get better shots with the 7D Mkii.... is it a better camera with all those focus points, ... or am I just spending money I don't have, in comparison to the 70d?
12/28/2014 05:26:49 PM · #5
The only way you might suffer from lack of focus points is if you do a lot of action shots that require tracking focus, like bird photography, sports photography, stuff like that. I've never suffered, personally, for lack of such focusing capabilities.
12/28/2014 05:53:39 PM · #6
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

The only way you might suffer from lack of focus points is if you do a lot of action shots that require tracking focus, like bird photography, sports photography, stuff like that. I've never suffered, personally, for lack of such focusing capabilities.


It is pretty close to the original 7D though, so I would think it would still be good for these types of photography, just not as good as the upgraded version.
12/28/2014 06:55:31 PM · #7
Like they said, you are going to have no problems fitting and shooting with those lenses.

It sounds like autofocus effectiveness is your primary concern - to get a taste of what the camera (any Canon really) can do with autofocus, I highly recommend renting a 70-200 Canon lens - the 2.8 will focus the best, but the 4.0 isn't too bad (I owned one and shot a lot of sports with it, it wasn't that the focus was off just that the extra 1 stop of aperture helps for sports)

I used my 40D with that lens and compared to a lower end 70-300 (don't recall the brand), the L series 70-200, even the 4.0, has a worlds better AF system. A lot of times money is better spend on a good telephoto lens rather than a different body if you are having autofocus issues.
12/29/2014 07:47:01 AM · #8
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Don't worry about the 19 focus points; all of them are "cross-type", which are the most efficient type; your Rebel only has one of those, the center one. Autofocus accuracy will be much improved.


just pointing out that the cross type AF only works with a lens thats 2.8 or wider, which would be the 50/1.8 in the OP's case. If AF sensitivity is important than lens selection should be considered.

To add I wouldn't base my decision on considering if a 70D is a worthy upgrade on the quantity of focus points alone, its a much better camera overall than the t2i. the physical features alone are worth the upgrade as the handling between a rebel and prostyle layout are two different animals considering the top lcd and dedicated buttons, the XXD series is a much better experience if you can afford the luxury over a rebel added to what Robert listed.

if you are still hesitant, what other cameras are you considering?

12/29/2014 11:19:37 AM · #9
Sounds like you're pretty well covered in the lens department. I'd suggest you go body only, and keep the savings back to get a lens you really want / need.
I absolutely love my 70D - was a very nice, significant upgrade from the 60D (a move I'd resisted because I didn't see any real advantage in the specs; then I accidentally killed the 60D...).
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