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 09/08/2013 12:28:02 AM · #1
Check out Haakon's blue in rain!



Go. Read the photographers notes. I put some work into shoots sometimes, but this is exceptional.
 09/08/2013 03:15:00 AM · #2
Indeed.
 09/08/2013 03:18:55 AM · #3
This is a great well thought out and executed shot. Clearly some planning and thought went it this setup and the great finish is justified. Nice comeback after 6 years off from DPC.
I suspect this is the kind of planning execution that will need to grab the top spots in the upcoming TPL2...
 09/08/2013 10:44:49 AM · #4
Note that 13 voters rated this one "below average." REALLY?
 09/08/2013 10:51:35 AM · #5
Originally posted by scalvert:
Note that 13 voters rated this one "below average." REALLY?


What do you figure that says?
09/08/2013 11:03:06 AM · #6
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by scalvert:
Note that 13 voters rated this one "below average." REALLY?

What do you figure that says?

It wasn't at or near the top of my voting scale. Yes, it's a pretty photo, but it felt overly contrived to me ... after reading the photographers notes it appears I was correct; lots of smoke and mirrors to make this happen.

For this challenge I was looking more for found "rain" photos, something naturally occurring. I also preferred to see rain as it was happening, not the before or after it rained capture.

And, for the record, I was not the sole "1" voter on this, but I was "below average".
 09/08/2013 11:07:43 AM · #7
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by scalvert:
Note that 13 voters rated this one "below average." REALLY?

What do you figure that says?

It wasn't at or near the top of my voting scale. Yes, it's a pretty photo, but it felt overly contrived to me ... after reading the photographers notes it appears I was correct; lots of smoke and mirrors to make this happen.

For this challenge I was looking more for found "rain" photos, something naturally occurring. I also preferred to see rain as it was happening, not the before or after it rained capture.

And, for the record, I was not the sole "1" voter on this, but I was "below average".


I figure that's a very valid line of reasoning - and I do appreciate you standing up to explain.

..

With that being said - contrived or not, did you really find it to be below average?

I suppose, and forgive me for saying so, but I suppose that the disconnect here is that you had a rather narrower description in mind than that which was provided in the challenge.

I think this probably happens quite a bit more than we generally suspect. I'm sure some people will vote down any shape in 'shapes' that isn't a classical geometric shape, and it's their right to do so I suppose.

09/08/2013 11:18:28 AM · #8
I generally vote with what I like getting higher scores and those I like less getting lower scores.

These are what worked for me in the challenge. Below these were a large pile of "6's" and a huge bucket of "5's". In retrospect, there are a few 6's that I should have bumped to a 7 and one of the 7's could have gone higher. Didn't go back and review this time as I sometimes do before rollover.

I gave out two 9's
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One 8


Seven 7's
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09/08/2013 11:19:23 AM · #9
If there's more "banter" I'm not ignoring you. I have something on the afternoon schedule that I need to attend. L8R.
 09/08/2013 11:19:48 AM · #10
Originally posted by scalvert:
Note that 13 voters rated this one "below average." REALLY?


I share your opinion, on a visceral level... but then again, we have to recognize that statistically, it's just expected. The votes tend to follow, approximately, a Gaussian distribution, so there will be tails, on both ends. In this case, the "low" tail is neither larger, nor smaller than expected. The "fit" to normality is not all that great, but that's as much do to the limited sample size as anything.
 09/08/2013 11:20:59 AM · #11
I gave this a 9, I thought it was well thought out and executed.

Message edited by author 2013-09-08 11:22:26.
 09/08/2013 11:25:15 AM · #12
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by scalvert:
Note that 13 voters rated this one "below average." REALLY?

What do you figure that says?

It says you can't please everyone. If you had the top 10 photographers in the world entering a challenge they would each get votes below 6 as a small subset of voters find reasons to disparage the effort. Likewise, a dog with a crittercam snapping random pics would inevitably get votes above 5. Some people don't like chocolate either.
 09/08/2013 11:42:21 AM · #13
that goddess is all wet... obviously ovines rule.
and chocolate is overrated.
 09/08/2013 11:53:19 AM · #14
Originally posted by skewsme:
that goddess is all wet... obviously ovines rule.
and chocolate is overrated.


That may well be the case.
 09/08/2013 12:04:30 PM · #15
Originally posted by kirbic:
we have to recognize that statistically, it's just expected.

Of course. A difference of opinion can still be a valid opinion, but repeatedly going against the grain tends to diminish credibility as a good judge of quality. A film critic with a long record of panning the Oscar winners while favoring poorly rated indie films may fancy himself at the cutting edge of cinema genius, but after a while people who don't share that particular view stop paying any attention because it's "just that guy." In a subjective field there's nothing wrong with the opinion of a voter whose tastes don't track with the crowd, but trading conform with the masses for conform with a tiny minority is ultimately meaningless as a gauge of value.
 09/08/2013 12:15:02 PM · #16
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by scalvert:
Note that 13 voters rated this one "below average." REALLY?

What do you figure that says?

It says you can't please everyone. If you had the top 10 photographers in the world entering a challenge they would each get votes below 6 as a small subset of voters find reasons to disparage the effort. Likewise, a dog with a crittercam snapping random pics would inevitably get votes above 5. Some people don't like chocolate either.


Here you give yourself away. The top 10 photographers in the world would not win ribbons at DPC. Unless by top 10 you mean "top 10 potential DPC scorers in the world," which you might very well mean since your opinions are quite circular in this matter.

btw, I gave the photo a 6, because I enjoy campiness if it's imaginative, and umbrella-as-dress while not a huge leap is fun and I don't know that I've ever seen it before.
 09/08/2013 12:16:03 PM · #17
I also think it humorous that Cory thinks we are somehow going to miss a blue ribbon.

Perhaps we should have a running thread for neglected blue ribbons.
 09/08/2013 12:33:01 PM · #18
Originally posted by posthumous:
Here you give yourself away. The top 10 photographers in the world would not win ribbons at DPC.

Our opinions differ, but you're entitled to your crazy one.
 09/08/2013 12:35:07 PM · #19
Originally posted by posthumous:
I also think it humorous that Cory thinks we are somehow going to miss a blue ribbon.

He was calling attention to the background story for people who might not otherwise read it. Maybe you missed that?
 09/08/2013 12:38:35 PM · #20
I liked this shot. Perhaps because it had sharply and dramatically framed person in it, not just a subtle rainy landscape, like my shot.
 09/08/2013 02:18:27 PM · #21
Maybe we should have a challenge where we can vote ONLY one or ten. People could really shape up then.
 09/08/2013 02:28:33 PM · #22
I was one of the below-the-middle votes. The image feels overly-contrived to me, in pose and in styling both, and it just did not float my boat. I enjoyed the long description of how it was made, though, and it's really good to see Haakon back :-)
 09/08/2013 03:40:46 PM · #23
Great effort put into this shot. Whilst it is very good, I rewarded the images that I thought captured real rain as per the challenge description.

Take the month (minus a day) to find and photograph some rain. Be careful with your electronic bits, and good luck!

I gave it a six but it could be possible that many of the lower scores also thought it wasn't a great example of the challenge description.
 09/08/2013 10:05:43 PM · #24
Originally posted by Stagolee:
Great effort put into this shot. Whilst it is very good, I rewarded the images that I thought captured real rain as per the challenge description.

Take the month (minus a day) to find and photograph some rain. Be careful with your electronic bits, and good luck!


Not likely that someone in LA was going to find rain in August, so if he wanted to enter, he was going to have to make his own rain. Heck, we didn't get rain in Seattle until the last couple of days of the month.
 09/08/2013 10:13:37 PM · #25
That's just it -- many times when it rains during the day here, it's a piddling, spitting type of rain that just doesn't show up in a picture. Nothing you can do can really make it interesting if it's just not going to show.

So my husband, son and I made mine. I learned a lot more doing it, and I'll remember it a lot more. I would have love to have gotten a real shot, but I love rain, and if it wasn't going to happen, I wasn't going to sit it out. I made the shot at 10:45PM on the last day of the challenge. :)

I thought the OP was a fun shot, by the way. :)

Message edited by author 2013-09-08 22:14:14.
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