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10/18/2012 12:52:41 PM · #1
I'm working on a possible logo for a group I ride with. It's called the Night Riders. Well, we ride at night. Duh.

Here's the existing logo that they want to replace:


One of the main uses will be to have it on T-shirts (No jerseys, this isn't a spandex and skinny tires crowd.)


Here's my potential entry in the design contest, so far it is the only entry. I like my general idea. It says "bicycle", it says "Texas", it says "Fort Worth", it says "night riding" and it says "get a headlight".



It is based off a photo I shot earlier in the year, where the rider waved at me as he rode past on the hill. I put a cowboy hat in his hand and the skyline of the city in the headlight, taken from other photos of my own.


I think it needs some refinement though. I wanted to work the text into it in some clever way, like having it be the ground the rest of the scene is on top of. Not sure if I may need to put something else in that large empty area on the upper right. I posted it in the group on FB and haven't gotten any feedback other than people "liking" it. But I know this bunch on DPC is far more critical of my efforts.


10/18/2012 01:23:02 PM · #2
I thought I had an idea -- but it didn't work.



That was the only thought. I think it's pretty cool.
10/18/2012 01:23:59 PM · #3
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

I wanted to work the text into it in some clever way, like having it be the ground the rest of the scene is on top of. Not sure if I may need to put something else in that large empty area on the upper right.

What about widening/raising the headlight beam and putting the text in there instead of the skyline? Put the skyline below where you have the text. Make the hat bigger -- 15 gallons if need be -- so it's (even) more obvious(ly "Texas"); maybe use some stippling to give it some shading while remaining line art.

Remember that at times it may be printed as small as the DPC thumbnail image.

Good job overall, for the reasons you mentioned.
10/18/2012 01:25:39 PM · #4
Originally posted by vawendy:

I thought I had an idea -- but it didn't work.



That was the only thought. I think it's pretty cool.

While you were posting I was typing up a similar suggestion, trying to take account of the problem you discovered ... :-)
10/18/2012 01:41:40 PM · #5
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:






Shadows have details (undesirable) in the right hand side of the image.

I also do not like how the grass doesn't line up in the illuminated part and the non-illuminated portion of the image.

Message edited by author 2012-10-18 13:42:49.
10/18/2012 01:58:08 PM · #6
Put a full moon in the upper right. (maybe)
10/18/2012 01:59:23 PM · #7
Originally posted by Cory:

I also do not like how the grass doesn't line up in the illuminated part and the non-illuminated portion of the image.

That was one of the things I knew needed further editing. I think if I add a few shorter structures in that area instead of the grass, it will look right.

Thanks for the suggestions. I've got a few weeks to refine it yet, but wanted to get some good feedback before I went any further.

Message edited by author 2012-10-18 14:00:23.
10/18/2012 02:02:08 PM · #8
What if you were to raise the sky and put the moon in the upper right corner and illuminating the 'Night Riders' with the lighting fading towards the rider.
10/18/2012 02:13:37 PM · #9
Originally posted by kawesttex:

What if you were to raise the sky and put the moon in the upper right corner and illuminating the 'Night Riders' with the lighting fading towards the rider.

Thanks. I'll try that as an alternate edit and see how it looks.
10/18/2012 02:32:12 PM · #10
Here is a moonshot you can use if you want, unless you want a full moon.

10/18/2012 02:42:09 PM · #11
Thanks.
10/18/2012 02:57:46 PM · #12
Something like this.

10/18/2012 03:20:29 PM · #13
Steve,

Disregard the font, it's the idea of the fading light from the moon. I have it from a reliable source (well, maybe reliable) that that font won't work.

Message edited by author 2012-10-18 15:29:22.
10/18/2012 03:36:37 PM · #14
Originally posted by kawesttex:

Steve,

Disregard the font, it's the idea of the fading light from the moon. I have it from a reliable source (well, maybe reliable) that that font won't work.


LOL..

Heck you COULD use comic sans, but I might be tempted to throw things out of my car window at you when I see you riding past. ;)
10/18/2012 03:37:22 PM · #15
Originally posted by kawesttex:

Steve,

Disregard the font, it's the idea of the fading light from the moon. I have it from a reliable source (well, maybe reliable) that that font won't work.


The idea is a great one btw, looks really good I think - the only trouble is that you'll need to half-tone the gradient to make it compatible with printing processes.
10/18/2012 03:57:34 PM · #16
Originally posted by Cory:

Heck you COULD use comic sans

I wouldn't dare.
Worldwide Font conference
10/18/2012 04:51:28 PM · #17
I don't think you can call yourselves "Night Riders" without some sort of tribute to the Hoff. So here's my contribution:

10/18/2012 07:43:35 PM · #18
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

I don't think you can call yourselves "Night Riders" without some sort of tribute to the Hoff. So here's my contribution:

My life is now complete.
10/18/2012 09:09:31 PM · #19
I think the thing sticking up out the back of his neck looks a bit weird, especially as seen in the thumbnail (or distance, if it was on a T-shirt).
10/18/2012 09:28:57 PM · #20
Originally posted by Pug-H:

I think the thing sticking up out the back of his neck looks a bit weird, especially as seen in the thumbnail (or distance, if it was on a T-shirt).

His arm?
10/18/2012 09:31:21 PM · #21
silly question! do you use a software to create logo? not like photoshop kinda but more of logo design software specialization in logo designing!
10/18/2012 09:39:22 PM · #22
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

Originally posted by Pug-H:

I think the thing sticking up out the back of his neck looks a bit weird, especially as seen in the thumbnail (or distance, if it was on a T-shirt).

His arm?


I know it's his arm, but it still looks weird as part of a logo.For someone who doesn't know, it would just be a "thing". (No reference to the Addams Family intended.)
10/18/2012 09:42:14 PM · #23
Originally posted by pgirish007:

silly question! do you use a software to create logo? not like photoshop kinda but more of logo design software specialization in logo designing!


Well, he should be using Illustrator... But my guess is that he's just Photoshopping it.

Vector graphics are great for this sort of stuff because they are infinitely scalable... Still, for their purposes, I'm sure this will be fine.
10/18/2012 10:46:33 PM · #24
Creation of artwork from scratch is not a talent of mine. I don't own or have illustrator available, nonetheless know how to use it. A vector image would be better, but I work with what I have.
10/18/2012 11:36:54 PM · #25
if you want to try with vector graphics inkscape is an excellent opens source option.
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