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 12/18/2002 04:57:09 PM · #1
Someone will take a photo of four eggs.
Someone will take a photo of a calculator/keypad.
Someone will take a photo of a clock/watch.
Someone will take a photo of a person wearing glasses.
Someone will take a photo of four of their pets.

hehe

Post your predictions!
 12/18/2002 05:00:04 PM · #2
My prediction is that we will continue to have threads like this ever week :)

12/18/2002 05:04:53 PM · #3
the four legs of an animal

a four year old child

a four year wedding anniversary

a cow with 4 stomachs inside

quadruplets

four on the floor

four calling birds

the four corners

the four directions of the compass

four score and seven years ago

...
 12/18/2002 05:05:05 PM · #4
I pridict if i see another bloody keyboard i will give it 1

Message edited by author 2002-12-18 17:08:47.
 12/18/2002 05:09:17 PM · #5
all photos are now on-topic, because something completely off-topic means their IQ is 4
 12/18/2002 05:09:20 PM · #6
an uncircumcised penis
A wayward golf shot
A close up of someone's head


oh. Four ? not fore.... hmmm.

12/18/2002 05:09:33 PM · #7
The only reason it bothers me is because it's demeaning and unfair to less experienced photographers...
 12/18/2002 05:13:04 PM · #8
i dont see how it's demeaning or unfair.

i may very well shoot any of those ideas myself. not that im the soul of experience, necessarily. but to me an idea is not 'the shot itself.'

the shot itself is everything and speaks for itself. 2 dufferent people can do a completely different job with the same idea.

and even if it's an obvious subject, done well it can be enlightening, moving and/or get a good score.

in fact, this list might help people come up with ideas ...

Message edited by author 2002-12-18 17:14:14.
 12/18/2002 05:20:29 PM · #9
The original post here posted them as 'predictions' rather than suggested ideas :)
 12/18/2002 05:31:02 PM · #10
Originally posted by Gordon:
A wayward golf shot...

...on the par 4 Fourth Hole using a 4-wood, striking one of the foursome ahead in the forehead, forging a sizable knot...it's foregone that this foursquare chap will fork over (sorry) four thousand for medical evaluations; in turn, forgiveness is a mere formality...
Originally posted by Gordon:
oh. Four ? not fore.... hmmm.

I have to go to work now...
 12/18/2002 05:33:01 PM · #11
that's true, it did... i sorta co-opted it into suggestions :)

.. but even newbies can and maybe should be encouraged to think outside the box ... thinking outside the box isnt really a photo skill is it? it's a 'life skill' .. :)


12/18/2002 05:35:06 PM · #12
A child on all fours, in motion, at the photographers place of occupation, with fruit of the looms on, taken very candidly.

The winning formula!
 12/18/2002 05:55:03 PM · #13
My great idea was on your list Tony. I think Jim is correct that you are poking fun at those of us who's creativity hasn't reached the level as more experienced members. From now on, I won't read the "Predictions" thread if it continues.
 12/18/2002 06:08:09 PM · #14
Originally posted by joanns:
My great idea was on your list Tony. I think Jim is correct that you are poking fun at those of us who's creativity hasn't reached the level as more experienced members. From now on, I won't read the "Predictions" thread if it continues.


Hmm... well think of it this way. If I thought of it (took all of 10 seconds) and you thought of it, how many others did too? Personally, I wouldn't want to submit a photo that four other people did as well (which happened during the Fruits & Vegetables challenge).

Then again, there are those who can take a common idea and make it unique. Look at the water drop in the member's Free Study challenge. The water drop is as tired as any other photo, but I thought it was uniquely done and the blue ribbon shows other people liked it too.

Please don't take offense, but if I thought of your idea in just a few seconds... how much thought did you really put into it? I say go for it. But I hope you try to offer a fresh interpretation.
 12/18/2002 06:12:58 PM · #15
jim? you mean john?

Originally posted by joanns:
My great idea was on your list Tony. I think Jim is correct that you are poking fun at those of us who's creativity hasn't reached the level as more experienced members. From now on, I won't read the "Predictions" thread if it continues.

 12/18/2002 06:17:16 PM · #16
I'll agree that creative photography requires experience and knowledge... but is originality limited to senior level shutterbugs?

I apologize if you interpret my post as newbie-bashing. That is not my intent. I'm just having fun on the forum.
12/18/2002 06:51:47 PM · #17
Yes, I mean John, I'm having a bad day! But, my photo this week is doing very well. Don't think I'll ever have a winner but at least I know I'll be in the top 63 this week in the Member's challenge.
 12/18/2002 09:49:13 PM · #18
Bamaster, I think what you said was in the right spirit. I'm certain you didn't mean to offend, it's just that a newbie might feel intimidated by the predictions that pop up here. You're not the first to predict the "predictable" so don't feel bad about it. The nature of this website is to be encouraging, and most of us like to avoid discouraging someone.
I remember reading once, a long time ago, about producing a product "you don't have to be the first, just do it better." It seems to me that would apply to photo challenges too. If we avoid doing subjects that have been done and redone many times over, we may pass the opportunity to produce something outstanding.
Just my humble opinion.
 12/18/2002 10:00:28 PM · #19
Originally posted by bamaster:
I'll agree that creative photography requires experience and knowledge... but is originality limited to senior level shutterbugs?

I apologize if you interpret my post as newbie-bashing. That is not my intent. I'm just having fun on the forum.


When you first started into photography, did you already know what was and wasnt 'original' or did you depend on people to tell you what you should and shouldnt photograph?

12/18/2002 10:06:56 PM · #20
Well I for one apreciate that list. I've been looking and looking for things in four. gerrrr threes and fives and more everywhere.

OK I did think of my four footed friend, my glasses (NEVER forget the first time I was called 4eyes :( ) and picture frames. sigh.
 12/18/2002 11:45:12 PM · #21
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
When you first started into photography, did you already know what was and wasnt 'original' or did you depend on people to tell you what you should and shouldnt photograph?


Well, my very first camera was for taking pictures of people like friends. Not for a challenge. I guess when I began to 'challenge' I had already seen enough photos to know that there is almost no such thing as an original photo... almost everything I've seen is some flavor of someone else's work.

Of course I am a web designer by trade for almost 8 years. I've made a living at copying other people's ideas, but spinning a new approach to it. So I guess I've become conditioned to interpret things in a new way. I personally think passion is the catalyst for ingenuity. When you love something you naturally want to do it better (i.e. I am also a professional bowler, I love it and am constantly trying to improve).

As for being original in the challenge, I only have to look at the last couple of results to see that pets, children, computers, etc are oddly submitted repeatedly. Most any of the regulars will agree that baby pictures, while beautimous, are typically frowned upon.

So the real question is this... are you taking a photo to win or to show off your children? And if you are not in this to win, why are you entering a challenge when there are countless other sites?

Since I'm rambling... I never said there was anything wrong with submitting the typical. I just said it was likely that someone will submit it. I've already mentioned the fact that "A Splash of Color" is not a new subject, but it's a fresh take on it and it was warmly received.

For some reason it sounds like you feel obligated to defend the novice photographer. I'm easily in that category. I think the Critique Club is a a wonderful way to groom the newcomers. However, my mother told me that when I was born I didn't live till the doctor slapped my behind. It was not my intent of this post, but for some of these budding photo takers, a gentle slap may be just what the doctor ordered.

:-D
 12/19/2002 12:09:20 AM · #22
Originally posted by bamaster:
... pets, children, computers, etc are oddly submitted repeatedly. Most any of the regulars will agree that baby pictures, while beautimous, are typically frowned upon.

So the real question is this... are you taking a photo to win or to show off your children? And if you are not in this to win, why are you entering a challenge when there are countless other sites?
:-D


There are 200 photos every week and 6 "winners." I don't really expect to be one of them anytime soon. So I should not submit, since I'm not "trying to win?"

There's nothing wrong with submitting a photo you know to be flawed, to see what flaws (or strengths) others see, and because we're a "community" of people who like to share their photos...if I can take a picture of my cute kid or his puppy legitimately within the context of the challenge, I see no reason to not submit it, and would suggest that anyone who votes it down just because of the identity of the model/subject is demonstrating a form of prejudice I would hope we -- as a species -- are learning to confront and overcome.

I myself would be more tempted to award bonus points for something like that, as it places an additional constraint on the challenge, kind of like having to write a movie review in sonnet form. How about a series of challenges like this:

+KID: (Normal Challenge Topic Here)+Kids: Take a picture of _____. Your photo must include a child.

+PET: (Normal Challenge Topic Here)+Pets: Take a picture of _____. Your photo must include an animal.

Now I'm off to seek my fourtune.
 12/19/2002 05:38:14 AM · #23
Wow, I just found out that in Japan the number four is pronounced the same way as the word "death". This means they have a really strong superstition about 4. Nothing comes in sets of 4, and room numbers with 4 in them are skipped in hotels and hospitals!

I hope we don't have many Japanese users :).
 12/19/2002 05:47:58 AM · #24
Originally posted by Gordon:
an uncircumcised penis
A wayward golf shot
A close up of someone's head
oh. Four ? not fore.... hmmm.


Dmn it gordon ! ...you killed my foreskin idea. Back to the drawing table
 12/19/2002 05:50:40 AM · #25
I bet if you submitted a photo represnting death or superstitions it would get marked down by a lot of people who don't realise the link.

Would help if you could see the photographer's description when voting on images sometimes.
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