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04/07/2010 03:50:34 PM · #1 |
Been trying some new processing styles/techniques. I would love to hear your thoughts and critiques on the below image. Speak your mind!
Heres the original
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04/07/2010 03:53:49 PM · #2 |
Eye brightnesses don't match
Darkness around the eyes don't match
both of these jump out at me |
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04/07/2010 03:58:47 PM · #3 |
Keep in mind that I know next to nothing about post processing, but I still am opinionated :)
The updated image definitely looks much more pleasing, however, she seems slightly pale. Maybe a bit more saturation?
Also, the eyes, while definitely sharper, feel slightly unnatural. Of course, the best thing to fix that would be better focus on the eyes, but I think you did well to cover that up.
You can see a small sliver of dog tongue. I can't decide if that is distracting, or if it makes the photo more intimate.
Overall, I had to really look closely at the photo to see things I didn't like (a good thing!) |
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04/07/2010 04:11:38 PM · #4 |
Not sure about the color correction - she does look relatively pale in the edited version. Then again, I wonder if that is simply because the unedited version is quite warm.
That aside,
- you did an excellent job slimming her face. (Quite subtle)
- you removed the fly aways in the background quite well.
- I personally like the treatment on the eyes
One small comment/question: She looks quite different in the two versions. Almost to the point where they look like two different people. While slimming her face might have looked better is it "real". Its not just the slimming its the overall edit I think that creates the difference. Just a thought...
Message edited by author 2010-04-07 16:12:17. |
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04/07/2010 04:24:04 PM · #5 |
| I love your post processing - especiallly the pale skin. Of course, that's my style of processing as well, so maybe I'm too biased? ; ) |
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04/08/2010 02:22:27 AM · #6 |
Thanks for all the helpful feedback guys.
You know, i noticed the pale thing myself, I went back to view the image as I left on photoshop and found it to be slightly warmer and more saturated than this. I was quite surprised when i put the JPEG and TIFF on ps side by side! I had never realized that big a difference when converting to jpeg. Then again i've just recently purchased an iMac 27inch screen which is revealing many things i've never noticed before :P
I had no idea jpeg butchered colors like that, god bless the blissful ignorance of sony vaio display haha.
So whats the general way around that? overcompensate/oversaturate on photoshop? Or am i missing a crucial step in converting images to jpeg.
Hey Citadel, on the point of changing certain things in the image, honestly, i'm not fussed, my ultimate goal is to make my model as pretty as possible while maintaining recognizability. This is my cousin by the way so maybe I am able to recognize her better than most, also in my edit she looks sorta like herself in her thinner days :P
Man, if she see this thread with her before and after online shes soooo gonna kick my ass haha. |
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04/08/2010 02:35:37 AM · #7 |
You need to calibrate your monitor to get accurate color correction IMHO.
With that said what's wrong with her being a little "pale"? I believe that first and foremost YOU are in charge of your photographic and artistic vision. If that is what you are going for in this shot then go for it! I agree with  love your post work is pleasing; at least to this viewer. If I were to change anything, or offer advice on what to change, it would be to darken the shot a bit lower frame to pull your eyes up into hers. This can be accomplished via dodge and burn, curves, layer adjustment etc...
Remember we humans want to focus on the areas of sharpness and lighter tonalities. Your DOF is pleasing and she feels very relaxed and natural in this shot. Overall, a well done portrait.
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04/08/2010 03:26:50 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by Nald:
You need to calibrate your monitor to get accurate color correction IMHO.
With that said what's wrong with her being a little "pale"? I believe that first and foremost YOU are in charge of your photographic and artistic vision. If that is what you are going for in this shot then go for it! I agree with love your post work is pleasing; at least to this viewer. If I were to change anything, or offer advice on what to change, it would be to darken the shot a bit lower frame to pull your eyes up into hers. This can be accomplished via dodge and burn, curves, layer adjustment etc...
Remember we humans want to focus on the areas of sharpness and lighter tonalities. Your DOF is pleasing and she feels very relaxed and natural in this shot. Overall, a well done portrait. |
Would i need to calibrate an iMac 27inch screen? I thought those things were display beasts that come pretty well calibrated by default.
The point i was trying to make was that after converting to JPEG it pushed the image to slightly more paler and desaturated than what i had intended. I guess some trial and error is needed here to see how the final JPEG looks.
Thanks for your thoughts! |
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04/08/2010 11:22:26 AM · #9 |
If it's a monitor it needs to be calibrated. I've worked on quite a few monitors and every single one of them benefited from a good monitor calibration system.
Here are a few that I would recommend.
Spyder 3
Color Munki
And if you are on a budget:
Huey Pro
Spyder3Express
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04/08/2010 12:00:46 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by Timosaby:
Thanks for all the helpful feedback guys.
You know, i noticed the pale thing myself, I went back to view the image as I left on photoshop and found it to be slightly warmer and more saturated than this. I was quite surprised when i put the JPEG and TIFF on ps side by side! I had never realized that big a difference when converting to jpeg. Then again i've just recently purchased an iMac 27inch screen which is revealing many things i've never noticed before :P |
Are the tiff and jpeg in the same color space, I've noticed when you change the color space to SRGB to save for web the change in color space can have a negative effect on colors especially on skin tones. If you are using one color space in tiff and change that color space it may be part of the difference you are seeing. Also changing from 16 bit to 8 bit you lose some more of the color information the tiff may have had.
Message edited by author 2010-04-08 12:12:47. |
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