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12/16/2009 12:19:00 PM · #1
Just a quick word up for those who are not aware. Here in the UK, every year we have Simon Cowells behemoth of a TV show called "The X-Factor" - now its an evolution of Pop Idol (American Idol) - a singing competition, but not only the `sweet young thangs` can audition, they also allow groups (not bands in the guitar sense but boy bands, girls bands etc.) and the over 25s to enter. Once we have gone through the usual funny auditions and whittled it down - its very similar to American Idol that ultimately we have a hugely televised final which usually falls a few weeks before Xmas, they then release the winners single straight away and it goes onto win the coveted "CHRISTMAS NUMBER 1 CHART POSITION".

And this has happened for the past 4 years..

But this time - wow - it seems the public may of had enough. A British couple created a Facebook Group that urged people to go purchase Rage Against the Machines "Killing in the name of" instead of the usual sickly sweet ballad the winner of the X-Factor churns out (which this year is a cover of Miley Cyrus` The Climb).

And people are now actually doing it..

Mid week charts puts Rage Against the Machines' track 75,000 sales above the X-Factor song.. We still have 4 days to go, but my god, wouldnt it be great to have the people actually sticking one up Simon Cowell and co..

"And this years Christmas number 1 is... KILLING IN THE NAME OF.."

Sid would of been proud!

12/16/2009 12:25:27 PM · #2
That's too bad...the alternate choice I mean. I can understand the revolt against Simon Cowell, but the choice says something not too pleasant about the current state of society in general.

Who's "Sid"?
12/16/2009 12:26:57 PM · #3
Originally posted by glad2badad:

That's too bad...the alternate choice I mean. I can understand the revolt against Simon Cowell, but the choice says something not too pleasant about the current state of society in general.

Who's "Sid"?


I was going to post about this. Great stuff. I've bought it for myself, girlfriend and son. It's a great song. Reminds me of drunken nights at university in the mid 90s . 'Killing in the name of...' is a fantastic protest song with a great message in my opinion. I think the choice is perfect. It's about those in authority not necessarily having the moral high ground. Very apt for todays state of society. I really do hope it gets to number one just for the inevitable sight of Simon Cowell dismissing the whole thing as a cynical staged marketing ploy. The irony will be hilarious. I guess 'Sid' is the Vicious one.

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12/16/2009 12:29:42 PM · #4
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12/16/2009 12:44:14 PM · #5
Ok, but why not a song that is actually "Christmasy" instead of something that says "Killing in the name of..."? Could still upset the #1 spot with something that sounds a bit more pleasant, no?
12/16/2009 12:49:12 PM · #6
Originally posted by glad2badad:

Ok, but why not a song that is actually "Christmasy" instead of something that says "Killing in the name of..."? Could still upset the #1 spot with something that sounds a bit more pleasant, no?


You could do what i do and mentally insert the name 'Santa' at the end of each chorus.
12/16/2009 12:51:42 PM · #7
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Ok, but why not a song that is actually "Christmasy" instead of something that says "Killing in the name of..."? Could still upset the #1 spot with something that sounds a bit more pleasant, no?

You could do what i do and mentally insert the name 'Santa' at the end of each chorus.

Dang. Guess I'm going to have to listen to the darn song. :-P
12/16/2009 12:54:20 PM · #8
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Ok, but why not a song that is actually "Christmasy" instead of something that says "Killing in the name of..."? Could still upset the #1 spot with something that sounds a bit more pleasant, no?


You could do what i do and mentally insert the name 'Santa' at the end of each chorus.


Stickin' it to the man! RAAAGEEE! Buy buy buy!

Aaannnyway when I saw the thread title here I thought it might have been to do with the RIDICULOUS British Airways strike that looks set to happen next week - there's the true Christmas anarchy. I'm in the process of trying to figure out whether or not I need to buy another ticket but they're not making it easy.
12/16/2009 12:59:28 PM · #9
Originally posted by JimiRose:

Stickin' it to the man! RAAAGEEE! Buy buy buy!


Ha! Yes, that is very true, Jim. Anarchy for sale!! To be fair though, Rage Against The Machine have said that they are donating the royalties of this unexpected windfall to a UK charity.
12/16/2009 01:15:46 PM · #10
Originally posted by glad2badad:

That's too bad...the alternate choice I mean. I can understand the revolt against Simon Cowell, but the choice says something not too pleasant about the current state of society in general.

Who's "Sid"?


Sid Vicious----sex pistols---Anarchy In The UK.

12/16/2009 01:21:33 PM · #11
Originally posted by glad2badad:

Ok, but why not a song that is actually "Christmasy" instead of something that says "Killing in the name of..."? Could still upset the #1 spot with something that sounds a bit more pleasant, no?


No anti-establishment christmas songs immediately spring to mind. :)

Its actually a pretty good track and considering its about 14 years old actually sounds quite fresh. I think they picked the song because lyrically it fits very well, and the genre of music is quite the opposite of the saccharine sweet ballads we have to endure from X-Factor winners..

X-factor isn`t all bad though - Leona Lewis became famous because she won it and as we all know - she is pretty darn hot..oh, and sings pretty well to boot.
12/16/2009 01:25:37 PM · #12
Originally posted by Simms:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Ok, but why not a song that is actually "Christmasy" instead of something that says "Killing in the name of..."? Could still upset the #1 spot with something that sounds a bit more pleasant, no?


No anti-establishment christmas songs immediately spring to mind. :)

Its actually a pretty good track and considering its about 14 years old actually sounds quite fresh. I think they picked the song because lyrically it fits very well, and the genre of music is quite the opposite of the saccharine sweet ballads we have to endure from X-Factor winners..

X-factor isn`t all bad though - Leona Lewis became famous because she won it and as we all know - she is pretty darn hot..oh, and sings pretty well to boot.


You mean you're not a fan of the great Steve Brookstein?? Shame on you! ;-)
12/16/2009 01:26:43 PM · #13
Originally posted by Simms:

No anti-establishment christmas songs immediately spring to mind. :)


Rudolph was pretty non-conformist...
12/16/2009 01:29:46 PM · #14
For anyone who's curious as to the nature of this little ditty by Rage the lyrics can be found here., although they are certainly NSFW or kids!
12/16/2009 01:31:13 PM · #15
It may be worth pointing out that both Rage Against The Machine and the X-Factor winners are represented by Sony.
12/16/2009 01:38:57 PM · #16
HAHA Love it when people actually do things like this. I hate Facebook but love it as a tool for non-conformity. Brilliant!

12/16/2009 01:39:10 PM · #17
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:

It may be worth pointing out that both Rage Against The Machine and the X-Factor winners are represented by Sony.


:O That's lame, so the only man we're really sticking to here is Simon Cowell, and he already has loads of money...

Still - stickin' it to the man! Woop!
12/16/2009 02:43:32 PM · #18
Originally posted by JimiRose:

Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:

It may be worth pointing out that both Rage Against The Machine and the X-Factor winners are represented by Sony.


:O That's lame, so the only man we're really sticking to here is Simon Cowell, and he already has loads of money...

Still - stickin' it to the man! Woop!


The money really isn't an issue to him here..

Its more of a case of "Egg meet face."

But the physical CD of the xfactor song went on sale today and is supposed to be shifted quickly... bugger!
12/16/2009 02:45:07 PM · #19
Originally posted by JimiRose:

Originally posted by Simms:

No anti-establishment christmas songs immediately spring to mind. :)


Rudolph was pretty non-conformist...


Actually, the very colour of choice for him - red - is symbolic of his communist ideals where conformity is a mainstay.
12/16/2009 02:56:38 PM · #20
Originally posted by Simms:

No anti-establishment christmas songs immediately spring to mind. :)

A Christmas Carol by Tom Lehrer
12/16/2009 02:58:50 PM · #21
sorry, but all Santa's reindeers are actually female.

Male reindeer lose their antlers mid-november to early december, whereas female reindeer keep there's until birthing season in the spring.

So Rudolph, Blitzen etc etc are depicted as female on all the Christmas cards and tacky crap on people's lawns.

Just a heads up.
12/16/2009 03:00:00 PM · #22
Originally posted by Tez:

sorry, but all Santa's reindeers are actually female.

Male reindeer lose their antlers mid-november to early december, whereas female reindeer keep there's until birthing season in the spring.

So Rudolph, Blitzen etc etc are depicted as female on all the Christmas cards and tacky crap on people's lawns.

Just a heads up.


Umm they also fly...so I think logic has to be thrown out the window.
12/16/2009 03:00:21 PM · #23
Originally posted by Simms:

Originally posted by JimiRose:

Originally posted by Simms:

No anti-establishment christmas songs immediately spring to mind. :)


Rudolph was pretty non-conformist...


Actually, the very colour of choice for him - red - is symbolic of his communist ideals where conformity is a mainstay.


And yet in western society (which Rudolph most regularly frequents) communist symbols are often used as signs of ironic non-conformism. I reckon Rudolph was the most punk-rock of the reindeer, I see him with an earring and a ciggie sticking two fingers up at the reindeer who wouldn't let him join their reindeer games.
12/16/2009 03:09:34 PM · #24
so he was a peaceful non-comformist ?

Originally posted by JimiRose:

I see him with an earring and a ciggie sticking two fingers up at the reindeer who wouldn't let him join their reindeer games.

12/16/2009 03:17:40 PM · #25
Originally posted by soup:

so he was a peaceful non-comformist ?


He probably just didn't like the fact that the other reindeer all had rhyming names and tried to distance himself from them. One can only imagine the emotional torment he must have suffered as a youth...

He probably listens to Rage!
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